Are wire clips going to become the norm?

[SQSAR]

Personally, I very much prefer wire clips; primarily because they are more discreet to carry. I have yet to find a down-side to them. I don't like them to the point of excluding other non-wire clip knives, but I do consider it a plus when I see a new knife come out that has one.

[computernut]

After I got my Delica4 I was sure that it's clip was the best. The wire clips on some of my flashlights really sucked so I thought the solid hour-glass clip was the way to go. My next knife had to have the same clip but that limited things too much so finally I got my Sage1 and I loved the clip! I then got a Caly3, now I have the Sage2 & 3 and I'm still loving it. There is a little bit of side-to-side movement but I found that my Delica clip would shift sometimes too until I put loctite on the screws and tightened them real good.

I tried a friend's Delica G10 with a solid clip and I couldn't even get it off my pocket it had such a grip but my Caly3 and Sage3 slip in and out much easier since the wire clip has less surface area contacting the G10. I think some knives are best with the solid clip but I think for most smaller knives the wire clip is the way to go.

[dsmegst]

I've been a fan of the wire clips since they were introduced. I for one wouldn't mind if every folder started using them, especially the low rider version.

[DeathBySnooSnoo]

Buck has some good clips on the Vantage series...deep carry, not too long, 2 screws holding them on, easily switchable for us lefties, and no holes in the scales!!!

[INFRNL]

I would personally like to see a new design where they do the lo-rider in a non-wire clip. I agree that the slits in the scales tends to be a little bit ugly, but I do like the low ride option

[Peter1960]

A low ride wire clip is my preferred clip and if I could choose between standard clip or wire clip on one model, I would take the version with wire clip.

I only make best experiences with the wire clip, not one disappointment within three or four years of EDC.

[The Deacon]

Different strokes for different folks. One of the reasons I love my Kiwis is that there's no clip to remove and no ugly holes, slots, or trenches to disfigure the knife after it's removed. :)

[darkstar29]

Sorry for leaving so abruptly after starting this yesterday. Had to go to bed..such is the life of a swing-shifter
Anyhow. After more thought, and some input from co-workers, it seems like alot of my issue with the wire clip is how weak it 'seems' at the point of attachment. If the first bend could be reinforced somehow and reduce the side-to-side play, I Might come around.. Not enough to jump on the bandwagon, but near enough to shake hands with those on board :D
My perceptions are not shared by all, and some may be out-right untrue. But that doesn't change the fact that perception is truth in the mind of the perceiver.(Is that a word? :confused: Well it is now )
Oh, also, good morning all :spyder:

[The Deacon]

No problem, although I doubt there will be any modification you suggest will make it into production, given the percentage of folks who seem satisfied with the wire clip in its current configuration.

FWIW, if you really want to reduce the risk of being called bad names, it might pay to find a more polite way to express your discontent than you did in your initial post. Just like sports bars owned by retired athletes tend to attract fans of that athlete's old team, manufacturer's forums tend to attract fans of the brand. Walking into either and starting a conversation with a barrage of cheap insults is rarely the best way to get a warm reception.

[darkstar29]

Duly noted, Deacon. It won't happen again.

[jackknifeh]

I like the wire clips a lot. Especially for gents folders. They don't stand out as much I don't think. They even let the color of the pants be less hidden. I've adjusted the tension of one and it is very easy compared to the others. I haven't seen any that I don't like though. My main problem with a clip isn't the clip, it's about where it touches a knife. A lot of Spydercos have a logo (smooth) where the clip touches the handle to make sliding in and out of a pocket easier. I don't really care (too much) about my jeans but dress pants being torn up by a textured G-10 handle is unacceptable. I've thought about this before and it may be difficult to place a smooth spot on some of the larger knives where the clip hits the handle because of moving the clip around. But I'd rather a larger smooth area be on the handle for all clip positions than me sanding the handle smooth. I don't really care if I use the knife but I've sold some knives recently that I never ever thought I'd sell and sanding handles will definately reduce resale value. Actually, I never thought about selling any knives until I had accumulated enough that I didn't use. So, I sold some I didn't use to get cash to buy and try other knives. ****, got side tracked again.

Jack

[Gerard Breuker]

As I nowadays try to buy knives I will actually carry and use I find a wire clip is a definite minus point for me. Wire clips always seem to need a little extra pull or push compared to ordinary clips which I find annoying in the way I tend to use my knives. Honestly don't know why as the shape and tension of the clips are almost identical.

[Splice]

I've been carrying a sebenza (along with my spydercos of course) for about a year and a half now. For the first half of this period I used the standard clip that came with it; it snagged a dish rack and bent halfway to ****, then looked atrocious after I had to leatherman it back into place. Ever after Ive used the wire clip from a Spyderco Meerkat and not only have I had no clip breakage issues, ive also had no retention issues as well (just using one screw too), and furthermore more of the knife can be seen now without the clip obscuring half of the lockbar side, and it sits deeper in the pocket too.

I really see it as a superior clip platform, but I do still like traditional clips too.

[Brock O Lee]

Funny story... I have never bent a clip before, until today, after I read all about it in this thread this morning... Bent the wire clip on my Dragonfly on a garden chair - luckily it was easy to bend back. I still like them :)

I'm NOT going to read the thread about S30V bending, thats for sure! :D

[salimoneus]

I much prefer the wire clip to the standard clip. Just because it flexes more in your hand doesn't mean much really, normally the clip would never see those kinds of forces applied on it while clipped in the pocket. In fact they are lower profile and sit even deeper in the pocket so they should snag less often. If you're in an environment where the clip is taking that much of a beating, I don't think any clip is going to hold up over time. In that case I would recommend removing the clip and sticking it in your pocket for the best protection. Also, the wire clips can very easily be rebent back into shape several times, where as the standard clip is more likely to just beak.

[jackknifeh]

Funny story... I have never bent a clip before, until today, after I read all about it in this thread this morning... Bent the wire clip on my Dragonfly on a garden chair - luckily it was easy to bend back. I still like them :)

I'm NOT going to read the thread about S30V bending, thats for sure! :D

I bent my first wire clip twice. Both times it was easy to get back into shape. I think that's another positive. Easily repaired.

Don't worry about S30V bending. IT BREAKS! I've broken every S30V blade I've ever owned. Just kidding. :D Hope I didn't jinx you OR ME! :D

Jack

[Stony]

I'm a fan of the wire clips. It is the only clip that has not torn up my pockets over time. :D

[EricTheRed]

both clips have their perks.

I have generally preferred the low rider style clips as on my Caly3 CF that I've finally started EDCing over the last couple of months. (FWIW mine has never had any play to it)

Though I do still like the flat clips on most of my other knives for other reasons. Namely I like having a "little" bit of handle sticking out of my pocket which I can pinch and pull without having to cram my entire thumb into my pocket (plus I am one of the few that prefer tip-down carry) ...though this little bit of knife sticking out has it's limits IMHO. Though I do love my para2, Lum Tanto, etc. I with the clip was mounted a bit closer to the top edge of the handle so as to cut down on how much knife does stick out...the Delica/Endura (and similar) have this down to perfection.
...the other thing I like about flat clips is quite a bit more superficial. I don't where any jewelry or even a watch. The only sort of "bling" I like to have on is a shiny Spyderco clip on my side :cool:

back to the original intent of this thread... the wire clip (at least mine) doesn't seem to any flaws to it's design. No loose play, seems sturdy, and even though I like like tip-down, the super-low ride of the wire clip does force me into drawing the Caly with the proper technique for tip up, which I never would have fully appreciated if I wasn't forced into it