Have there been any refinements or tweeks to the para-2 lock since the introduction of this knife. Some, I admit I was one, said that the lock was hard to disengage. I suggested extending the unlocking tab wider and closer to the open blade. This would allow more leverage on the lock and less pressure on one small spot of the finger.
I know that the rest of the knife had excellent ergonomics.
I would like to give the knife a second chance if the lock was has been refined over time.
I remember that Eric responded that Spyderco would look at this.
Thank you for the feedback.
We are now looking at refining the disengagement, it will take time but we’re looking at it.
Btw, I usually close mine by pressing the tab with my thumb and dropping the finger choil to my forefinger. Then 180 turn and close. (Similar technique as the Back Lock)
I understand most close it differently, this is just another technique
I think that the tab should be moved further back a bit actually, there is no issue at all with the leverage you get on the tab really and f you can't unlock it from a position about 1/3 of an inch back you need to work on your finger strength...but it does need a full tab, on that we 100% agree. If you look at the Junior I think that it has a full tab compression lock and I think that it will be far superior to the Para2 lock.
I was just introduced to this closing method a couple of days ago and it seems like it offers a good mechanical advantage over the strength of the lock.
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I just pinch the lock between my index finger and thumb on the other side of the handle. I have both the Para 1 and 2, and honestly my Para 1 is harder to close than the 2. I had "sticking" issues with the 1 but haven't had any of that with the 2.
I'm going to have to refer you to our old friend, Search...but I am nearly certain that I do recall posts here and pictures showing a reconfiguration of the locking tab and scale cutout to make it easier to unlock the P2.
I was looking at the para 2 a while ago, but wasnt feeling the lock. I guess I was just not used to it but I found it hard to engage the lock and it was somewhat painful. Do these locks loosen up over time? I already close most kf my spydercos in the way Eric describes. Id love to add a para 2 to my collection as I like the size and espcially the blade shape.
The thee that I own were never really hard to disengage in the first place. One was a touch sticky, but after a few openings it was fine. There have been threads where hard to disengage locks have been talked about and various solutions including, graphite, oil and other lubes were suggested. But I think that just working it is the best solution.
And if it was painful to disengage, either you need some calluses...or maybe it just wasn't a really good example of the knife.
DeathBySnooSnoo wrote:The thee that I own were never really hard to disengage in the first place. One was a touch sticky, but after a few openings it was fine. There have been threads where hard to disengage locks have been talked about and various solutions including, graphite, oil and other lubes were suggested. But I think that just working it is the best solution.
And if it was painful to disengage, either you need some calluses...or maybe it just wasn't a really good example of the knife.
I think the lock was just so stiff that it was doing a number on my thumb. Im sure if I worked at it everything would be fine. My fingers have lots of calluses too lol.
alancamby wrote:If this has been modified,
does anyone have a picture of a early lock tab and a current lock tab.
Thanks
not the best pic, but there you go: above there is an early version of Para2, below the S90V Para sprint - AFAIK, on all future iterations of Para 2 the locking tab is supposed to look like the latter example
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Mine looks like the bottom knife. I believe the little cutout on the lock bar is what makes the lock easier to operate, not so much the placement of the lock tab itself. It does give you extra leverage, but it's not really any harder to unlock mine if i press on the very back corner of the lock, which would be about the center of where the old lock tab used to be.
brj wrote:not the best pic, but there you go: above there is an early version of Para2, below the S90V Para sprint - AFAIK, on all future iterations of Para 2 the locking tab is supposed to look like the latter example
I just got mine about 2 weeks ago and the lock looks like the bottom one. I wasn't crazy about the compression lock at first, but I'm liking it more all the time.
I really like the compression lock, one of my favorites. As an earlier poster said, thumb on scale, index finger on lock, simple push and gravity does the rest. Safe, efficient, and strong. Greatly reduces the risk of cuts. Simple one-handed closure. Really looking forward to the Yojimbo 2 w/compression lock.
Drkknight614 wrote:I think the lock was just so stiff that it was doing a number on my thumb. Im sure if I worked at it everything would be fine. My fingers have lots of calluses too lol.
That doesn't sound like the half dozen Para 2 that I have handled. None were any more stiff than the average backlock. I have seen one that had a somewhat sticky lock that you have to overcome an initial binding of the lock but then it gets easier.
I have to say mine must have broke in some, because i do remember my index finger being a little sore after playing with it a lot when i first got it...or maybe i just don't play with it as much now.
Thanks for all the comments everyone.
Received a new para 2 tonight. Pleased to say that the action is much improved over my first version of this model. I know my first p2 was a very early version due to the fact i pre ordered it several months before they came out, and it had only Sal's sig on the blade. Since i sold this to a friend, I have been able to check up on the knife from time to time. This new knife has a much improved location of the unlock tab. No longer does the tab corner make contact with my finger. What i noticed most though, the knife unlocks without the tab pressed firmly against the G10 scale. There seems to be a relief cut into the scale that my first knife did not have. I am excited to check on my old knife and compare all the differences.
Brj, or others, can you confirm this relief change, or am i mistaken.
Thanks again for the responses.
