M390/Blue G10 Para 2

jossta · #41

From some other dealers, I would guess 150ish, but Bento Box doesn't usually mark their knives down as much, so this might end up being a little more than that. I don't see it going over $175 though. That is what they sold the CTS-20CP Para2 for.

DeathBySnooSnoo · #42

BBS currently say $179.95

jossta · #43

I guess that's about right. I forgot to look there first. I imagine that M390 is more expensive than 20CP due to COO at least.

Scottie3000 · #44

Sounds high. I think I paid $10 more for CF and S90V, both of which I consider premiums over the materials in this knife.

JNewell · #45

Scottie3000 wrote:Sounds high. I think I paid $10 more for CF and S90V, both of which I consider premiums over the materials in this knife.

Fair enough, but they don't ship internationally anyway. :eek:

As a data point, the tan CPM-M4 Manix 2 seems to be available still, if that says anything about demand and pricing.

DeathBySnooSnoo · #46

It is high...but, like it has been said the HT can affect price so maybe we are going to see a slightly higher HT than the Mule, which is what everyone was hoping for. So maybe that is the reason for the higher cost.

FlaMtnBkr · #47

The price isn't higher because of Spyderco, its higher because of BBS and they charge more than other online stores. Look at the prices of their other knives.

Scottie3000 · #48

FlaMtnBkr wrote:The price isn't higher because of Spyderco, its higher because of BBS and they charge more than other online stores. Look at the prices of their other knives.

Agreed. I should have come out and said that too.

jimnolimit · #49

FlaMtnBkr wrote:The price isn't higher because of Spyderco, its higher because of BBS and they charge more than other online stores. Look at the prices of their other knives.

Scottie3000 wrote:Agreed. I should have come out and said that too.

i also agree, but in fairness to BBS, im sure they are laying out a nice chunk of change to place the minimum 600 piece order.

mongatu · #50

I haven't used S90V yet, but 20CP is supposed to be a virtual clone and in Ankerson's testing they performed about the same. Some say the photo of the 20CP blade after testing showed less micro chipping than the S90V blade. Anyway, I have been EDCing 20CP in the Para 2 sprint for a while now as well as using the M390 mule, and I can say that I prefer the performance characteristics of M390 to 20CP (and by implication S90V, assuming 20CP is in fact the functional equivalent to S90V, which I believe it is). So to me an M390 blade is worth more than an S90V blade, just comparing the steel and not the scale material. (Not that S90V and 20CP are bad or anything . . . I just like M390 better.)

That said, like almost everything else they sell, BBS's price is a little on the high side and I think it is somewhat unfortunate that Spyderco chose to release their first and thus far only M390 Para 2 model as a dealer exclusive rather than a regular sprint that would be available for order from many dealers thus giving the end user a chance to get one at a better price. But I want an M390 Para 2 regardless of scale material and so I'm ordering one anyway, but only one, because hopefully, there will be another M390 P2 in the not too distant future that is a true Sprint and perhaps that one might even have CF scales.

Perhaps that is why the BBS is demanding a non refundable $20 deposit, a practice I find somewhat objectionable. I don't mind a deposit, but it should be refundable, especially if it's going to be as high as $20.

In the meantime, if I don't like the way the blue scales turn out, I may end up trying to do a scale swap with one of my black G10 para 2's.

jossta · #51

I don't think it's bad that they're asking for a deposit. Knife works does the same thing for their dealer exclusives. For the smaller shops especially, a dealer exclusive can be a big investment. This helps them make sure they're getting serious buyers, since the people making pre-orders and then backing out are part of the reason people like Howe's don't do pre-orders anymore.

I think it's a nice compromise to insure you get the knife without gambling that you will catch them during launch before they sell out and also help the knife shop more smoothly deal with pre-orders.

DeathBySnooSnoo · #52

I think that 1 per customer plus a deposit is a really good way to do sprints and exclusives.

f22raptor · #53

put my name down for 2!

c.joe · #54

DeathBySnooSnoo wrote:I think that 1 per customer plus a deposit is a really good way to do sprints and exclusives.

I most definitely agree with this. It also forces me to not buy two when I'm already quite broke.

JNewell · #55

c.joe wrote:I most definitely agree with this. It also forces me to not buy two when I'm already quite broke.

LOL, the best reason I've heard for a 1/customer limit on sprints! :D :D :D

pdptrow · #56

What are the thoughts about other paramilitary sprints in M390 or for that matter anything else sprint or production with M390 steel. So far I really like the paramilitary, the F&F, how it feels in hand, the blade, size, you get it. I'm not bonkers about the Blue G-10, would prefer an earthy color or black. Does an exclusive mean the the only para in M390 or does changing the handle material give you another exclusive? Also, IMO it seems a little pricey since the last para sprint was $40 less. I have just started using the last purchases, my first para and a Manix 2 and not had enough time to get the feel for these two knives I got for trying the steels (M4 and CTS-20CP). So just wondering if M390 is a one time deal or might be seen more frequently. Spyderco is a great company to be using new materials to us so frequently, just hard to keep my wallet filled and keep up with them too.

MCM · #57

$179.95 + Tax + shipping........ Thats just over $200.00 bucks......
Go ahead, just a bit too much for me for G-10.......
I am all for sprints! But more than double for blade steel and a diff color G-10?
No way. My CF S90v's were less......

mongatu · #58

No tax is charged by the vendor if you don't live in the state where the store is located. It's a little pricey though, imo, but M390 is worth it. The Gray Para 2 sprint MSRP was $219.99 plus shipping, but because it wasn't a dealer exclusive, it was discounted by many vendors. Still, I paid about $170 apiece for two of the 20CP one's I bought (and then I got lucky and snagged one for $139 with free shipping!!).

But, imo, M390 is even better than 20CP, (even though 20CP is outstanding also). So to me, paying a little more (about $187 or so with shipping) for a G10 M390 Para 2 is well worth it. Very well worth it. I just wish the scales weren't going to be blue, but I can live with it (or maybe do a blade swap if it's possible).

Another positive thing is that the M390 mule was just tested by another member to be ~61 HRC, which is outstanding for M390. I think we can assume from that that it's highly likely that any future production M390 blades that Spyderco makes will be at least 61 HRC. That's a pretty ideal hardness for M390 and makes it worth more, imo.

All that aside, I really do hope there will be other M390 Para 2 sprints released by Spyderco that are not as exclusives of one kind or another. That would be much better, imo.

wsdavies · #59

It says $172.95

.357 mag wrote:What will you think the price will be? $150-170 range?

MCM · #60

Agree 100%, I am just wining.... Guess I am just plain spoiled.
And I do believe there will be several more Para2's this year. Maybe more in this steel. Not sure.
The M390 CF Military is the one I am really waiting for. :D
I prefer bigger blades and don't mind paying a bit more for CF.
But that's just me. :p
Am sure the blue M390 Para2 will be a great knife & sell out fast.
Just got to draw the line somewhere........ :cool:
Was just a bit surprised by the price.