I am interested in customizing my Police model with thin "scales" of mesquite or koa.
If anyone has any experience or advice, I would appreciate it.
I am a woodworker, not a "knife guy" - If this is a ridiculous idea, I want to hear that too!
I want to retain the clip - Are longer screws avail?
The SCARIEST part of the process for me would be getting the knife back together...kevlar gloves!
If this belongs elsewhere, my apologies.
regards,
popeye
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rbranum,
I have no experience on replacing or covering the scales. You might want to check out http://www.santafestoneworks.com/ they do what you're considering but in stone, plus I think they only do 1 side. I've thought of customizing a knife with different scales, I just haven't found the right way yet. If anyone has experience with scales I'm sure they'll be along.
Chris
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I have no experience on replacing or covering the scales. You might want to check out http://www.santafestoneworks.com/ they do what you're considering but in stone, plus I think they only do 1 side. I've thought of customizing a knife with different scales, I just haven't found the right way yet. If anyone has experience with scales I'm sure they'll be along.
Chris
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sc_rebel1957
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Popeye are we talking about replacing the scales?
Or adding the wood on top of the existing scales, either one will be very labor intensive and expensive to do.
If you want to go with inlaid wood/material of your choice that would require the exsisting SS handles have milled depressions.
Either way your'e talking alot of money.
I can do either in my small shop.
I'm working on a SS Police right now using a technique called stippling.
Mail me and i'll help you come up with something. Ron
Or adding the wood on top of the existing scales, either one will be very labor intensive and expensive to do.
If you want to go with inlaid wood/material of your choice that would require the exsisting SS handles have milled depressions.
Either way your'e talking alot of money.
I can do either in my small shop.
I'm working on a SS Police right now using a technique called stippling.
Mail me and i'll help you come up with something. Ron
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I've been thinking about gluing on (contact cement) some G-10 slabs to my SS Police model, and at the same time, re-attaching the pocket clip on the other side while I'm at it (I'm a "lefty" ).
Dann Fassnacht Aberdeen, WA glockman99@hotmail.com ICQ: 53675663
Edited by - glockman99 on 12/17/2002 1:33:44 PM
Dann Fassnacht Aberdeen, WA glockman99@hotmail.com ICQ: 53675663
Edited by - glockman99 on 12/17/2002 1:33:44 PM
Hi and welcome Popeye,
I would let Ron drill and fit 2 screwholes on each side + 3 smaller holes for the Clip. This would make the whole thing last a lot longer. If you only Cement (Epoxy) the scales without Screw pins, you will be able to schok the scales off !(Short sharp hit can/will make the glue snapbrake) Also scratch the SS before glueing the wood on, the glue will take a better "bite" that way. All in all; mail Ron, he seems to be one able rebel with a course (I spell like sh*t, but hopefully you get the meaning<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)
Take care and please show us the result when done!
Vox.
Repeat the mantra - "Spydie is good, Round is all - Life is Round, Life is Good, Spydie is Life is Round is LIfe. Round and Round, and Round forever." (Chuck.)
I would let Ron drill and fit 2 screwholes on each side + 3 smaller holes for the Clip. This would make the whole thing last a lot longer. If you only Cement (Epoxy) the scales without Screw pins, you will be able to schok the scales off !(Short sharp hit can/will make the glue snapbrake) Also scratch the SS before glueing the wood on, the glue will take a better "bite" that way. All in all; mail Ron, he seems to be one able rebel with a course (I spell like sh*t, but hopefully you get the meaning<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)
Take care and please show us the result when done!
Vox.
Repeat the mantra - "Spydie is good, Round is all - Life is Round, Life is Good, Spydie is Life is Round is LIfe. Round and Round, and Round forever." (Chuck.)
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Rbranum,
Welcome to <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>land!! This could be serious case starting with a customizing post like this! Sword and Shield will be along shortly to consult on your admission to the SATC.
As I was told by Dr Mike at SFO, nearly all of the SS model Spydercos have been so well finished that the pins blend in with the handle material. Drilling is risky and best left to people with experience. Vampyrewolf has done some tinkering with Crickets and may have some pointers. Ron (SC_rebel) has already chimed in there and his web site is: <a href="http://www.geocities.com/joyce43_c/RONS ... 210"><font color=FF00FF>Ron’s Knife Shop</font></a>
Dann brings up a good possibility about gluing scales directly to the current handles. There may be special prep of the handle or certain adhesives that work with the handle and scale materials. Check out some of the links to DIY custom knife work like: <a href="http://www.customknifedirectory.com/CKD ... htm"><font color=FF00FF>CKD Tutorials</font></a> or you can check out links from the American Bladesmith Society at <a href="http://www.americanbladesmith.com"><font color=FF00FF>American Bladesmith Society</font></a>
Our fee for providing this info is but a pittance – just some before and after pix when she’s done. Hope this helps. Best of luck on your “project”!
<b><font color="blue">"A hole-less knife is a soul-less knife is a whole less knife" -Javanese proverb </font> </b>
Okay, the links work now! Troubleshooting HTML is more fun than pulling tails on a finely tuned Harpsicat! Whew! All this and a bucket of chicken! Sorry.......
Edited by - java on 12/18/2002 9:46:48 AM
Welcome to <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>land!! This could be serious case starting with a customizing post like this! Sword and Shield will be along shortly to consult on your admission to the SATC.
As I was told by Dr Mike at SFO, nearly all of the SS model Spydercos have been so well finished that the pins blend in with the handle material. Drilling is risky and best left to people with experience. Vampyrewolf has done some tinkering with Crickets and may have some pointers. Ron (SC_rebel) has already chimed in there and his web site is: <a href="http://www.geocities.com/joyce43_c/RONS ... 210"><font color=FF00FF>Ron’s Knife Shop</font></a>
Dann brings up a good possibility about gluing scales directly to the current handles. There may be special prep of the handle or certain adhesives that work with the handle and scale materials. Check out some of the links to DIY custom knife work like: <a href="http://www.customknifedirectory.com/CKD ... htm"><font color=FF00FF>CKD Tutorials</font></a> or you can check out links from the American Bladesmith Society at <a href="http://www.americanbladesmith.com"><font color=FF00FF>American Bladesmith Society</font></a>
Our fee for providing this info is but a pittance – just some before and after pix when she’s done. Hope this helps. Best of luck on your “project”!
<b><font color="blue">"A hole-less knife is a soul-less knife is a whole less knife" -Javanese proverb </font> </b>
Okay, the links work now! Troubleshooting HTML is more fun than pulling tails on a finely tuned Harpsicat! Whew! All this and a bucket of chicken! Sorry.......
Edited by - java on 12/18/2002 9:46:48 AM
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Yep, I've tinkered with my Tufram Cricket...
plexiglass scales, and now working on SS scales... I've had the knife in peices a few(lost count) times.
I'm one hole away from having my SS Scales done, and trying to figure out the best way to do it. I'm using screw construction so I can fix anything I may need to. Working on the D-pin for the pivot. Probably gonne use a small drill bit and then the dremel to shape it.
This is my 2nd attempt, same hole. I messed it up, so this is scale #3 for this knife.
SS is a b*tch to work with, it starts to harden around the holes if you drill too fast. I had them pretty much soaked in coolent as I drilled. Hacksaw is pretty much the only way to cut it, then grinder to shape it.
I had to buy a whole new set of screws, and really had to countersink the pivot(to use factory pivot). The back spacer and clip are the same size on mine, as it was a b*tch to find new ones of about the same size. It took me about a month of searching up here.
I still have some final shaping to do on my scales, which is waiting for the re-assembly so I can get a smooth edge. Dremel and 150grit drum for that job.
Best advice: take your time on it.
Ever notice that you run out of money before month?
plexiglass scales, and now working on SS scales... I've had the knife in peices a few(lost count) times.
I'm one hole away from having my SS Scales done, and trying to figure out the best way to do it. I'm using screw construction so I can fix anything I may need to. Working on the D-pin for the pivot. Probably gonne use a small drill bit and then the dremel to shape it.
This is my 2nd attempt, same hole. I messed it up, so this is scale #3 for this knife.
SS is a b*tch to work with, it starts to harden around the holes if you drill too fast. I had them pretty much soaked in coolent as I drilled. Hacksaw is pretty much the only way to cut it, then grinder to shape it.
I had to buy a whole new set of screws, and really had to countersink the pivot(to use factory pivot). The back spacer and clip are the same size on mine, as it was a b*tch to find new ones of about the same size. It took me about a month of searching up here.
I still have some final shaping to do on my scales, which is waiting for the re-assembly so I can get a smooth edge. Dremel and 150grit drum for that job.
Best advice: take your time on it.
Ever notice that you run out of money before month?
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Thanks guys for all the nice comments, the epoxy thin strips onto the existing SS scales has merit.
Altho i'd do as Vox says, adding the 2 side pins will give the new scale material 3 points of contact adding strength.
Linen Micarta can give the illusion of wood veneers when finished such as on the Viele. Ron
Altho i'd do as Vox says, adding the 2 side pins will give the new scale material 3 points of contact adding strength.
Linen Micarta can give the illusion of wood veneers when finished such as on the Viele. Ron
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I know jaxon, but it is just a tool.
I will have to agree with boxer, 'Stoneworks expertiese would probably be able to come up with something acceptable.
rbranum
You are actually going to do something to the knife? Will this be for looks or will you be using this knife as a knife?
Knife Knut on a shoestring budget. RKBA
I will have to agree with boxer, 'Stoneworks expertiese would probably be able to come up with something acceptable.
rbranum
You are actually going to do something to the knife? Will this be for looks or will you be using this knife as a knife?
Knife Knut on a shoestring budget. RKBA
Hi all,
I like Dann's idea, and have seen it done. My brother-in-law has an old serrated Hunter, that a friend customized with wood scales glued on the stainless. He probably scored the scales first, then used some incredible adhesive.
The knife has been through 15+ years of being his ONLY folder, including field dressing a half dozen critters (elk/deer, etc.)
It CAN thus be done, its just a matter of what adhesive.
I like Dann's idea, and have seen it done. My brother-in-law has an old serrated Hunter, that a friend customized with wood scales glued on the stainless. He probably scored the scales first, then used some incredible adhesive.
The knife has been through 15+ years of being his ONLY folder, including field dressing a half dozen critters (elk/deer, etc.)
It CAN thus be done, its just a matter of what adhesive.