Chipped out my Sage 1

Jowens · #1

:mad:

I haven't had the knife for even a week and today, while cutting up cardboard boxes that my sons toys came in, I noticed a chip in the blade. First time I've used the knife.

Is that something that can be ground out? Anyone know of a reputable knife sharpener in the metro Atlanta area?

This stinks.

THG · #2

Jowens wrote:Is that something that can be ground out?

Hard to tell without pics.

dj moonbat · #3

Anything can be ground out. The question is what else has to be ground out along with it.

edge-e · #4

Tough break jowens.Buy the triangle sharpmaker.

Tactical Edge · #5

You can always send it back to Spyderco to be re-profiled. I've chipped the tip of my Caly 3 and sent it back to Spyderco to be re-ground. They do a great job but it may cost a few buck and you'll be without your knife for a week or so.

Spydesense · #6

Hate to hear that... ironically, i kinda did the same thing to my Sage 2 today also. I was opening a package and didn't see the staple I tried to cut through. It didn't put a chip per say, but it took me about a half hour to get it back to razor sharp.

Leatherneck · #7

I did the same thing to my Sage 1 right off the bat. I was told it was probably just the factory grind. I was able to take it out with the diamond stones on the sharpmaker and it never happened again so I am inclined to believe it was just that toothy grind from the factory. Use 'em and they just get better and better!

Evil D · #8

I had some serous chipping issues with my Caly 3 when i first started using it. Then i started sharpening it and it got even worse until i "figured out" ZDP.

ChapmanPreferred · #9

This gent was featured on the Foodnetwork show Good Eats:

thebladesmith.com/

I have never used their service and I am not affiliated with them at all. I simply did a google search and they came up. I do however remember the Good Eats episode. :)

Jowens · #10

ChapmanPreferred wrote:This gent was featured on the Foodnetwork show Good Eats:

thebladesmith.com/

I have never used their service and I am not affiliated with them at all. I simply did a google search and they came up. I do however remember the Good Eats episode. :)

Very cool and thanks for the 411.

I will probably call :spyder: this coming week to have it shipped back and reground (with an explanation on how it chipped, so maybe they can take a look at it to see if something is wrong with the blade material itself), but will definitely check out that bladesmith guy in the future.

marknett · #11

I had some serous chipping issues with my Caly 3 when i first started using it. Then i started sharpening it and it got even worse until i "figured out" ZDP.
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Hey Evil D , I'm curious about what you mean by "figured out about zdp-189" . Are you referring to how you use the blade or how you sharpened it ?

dsmegst · #12

Although I've never had this problem, I hear that some S30v blades can obtain a brittle edge during the factory sharpening process. Underneath the initial edge, there's good steel waiting to show itself.

Spyderco's been pretty good at avoiding this but it's been known to happen. Apparently this issue is common enough among other makers that S30v got a reputation of being brittle. When you grind a new edge on the knife, it should be much tougher in the future.

Evil D · #13

marknett wrote:Hey Evil D , I'm curious about what you mean by "figured out about zdp-189" . Are you referring to how you use the blade or how you sharpened it ?

Two big things at least for me made the difference in sharpening it.

1) Make sure you raise enough burr on both sides to assure you're not just rubbing on the side of the bevel. I found that i would get to my finest stone and wouldn't be hitting the edge enough so i would make 1000 strokes and get nowhere, or just dull down what i had accomplished. With finer stones, at least for me it seems like the burr can be very faint so you have to make sure you're raising a burr on both sides.

2) Be gentile. ZDP might be super hard, but it's brittle and will chip if you man handle it. You need to use diamond stones and you need a soft touch when using them so you don't make the scratches any deeper than necessary because they'll eventually end up as micro chips. Using the diamond stones lets you have a softer touch while still getting somewhere.

It's all stuff that i knew and knew better to look for, but it seemed like ZDP just isn't as forgiving if you don't hit the edge just right. I had it in my head that i really had to grind on this steel to remove any metal to sharpen it so i was being way too rough which just caused chips and heavy burrs that seemed to never hone out. All this applies to sharpening every steel really..there's just less margin of error with ZDP. S30V can be the same way if you're too hard on it and I'm sure S90V and other crazy hard steels are similar.

marknett · #14

I gotcha now , yes I can get to aggressive if I don't pay attention .