Have they changed the gas pump nozzles where you live?
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Pinetreebbs
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I have not seen a pump in Colorado without the locks. I'd imagine most problems with the locks occur when someone thinks it's stopped pumping. Honestly people now a days sue for the smallest things ridiculous actions have to be taken to prevent such lawsuits to begin with. If only people used their brians every now and then...
The ones I have used still have the auto shut-off. I can not imagine the law suits that would fly if someone actually got gas on their fingers because the auto shut-off was removed.npueppke wrote:Do those pumps stop if you wedge something in the handle and your tank is full or do you have to make sure to stop it yourself when it gets full?
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Will say that the pumps I used that had latches on my trip down to Atlanta needed them. The darn things took forever to dispense 10 gallons of gas. Most of the pump around here can dump that in under 30 seconds, so the lack of a latch is really not a big deal.
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Dunno where you're getting gas, but all the ones I hit still have the latches.FLYBYU44 wrote:Some pumps here don't have the latches anymore. However my Chevy gas cap is just the right size to jam in there, which I do all the time when they don't have latches.
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I guess what you loose in convenience you gain in flow rate! I can say it takes a good 3 minutes for 10 gallons over here. Though it gives me just enough time to wash my windows...The Deacon wrote:Will say that the pumps I used that had latches on my trip down to Atlanta needed them. The darn things took forever to dispense 10 gallons of gas. Most of the pump around here can dump that in under 30 seconds, so the lack of a latch is really not a big deal.
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When I was a kid no one pumped their own gas. I was around 13 years old when Dad pulled into a self-serve station. He was happy thinking it would keep prices a litter lower. At the time they were around 30 cents a gallon during a gas war. Remeber those anyone?
A few years ago I pumped the gas by locking a lever and went into the store. While I was in there the cashier noticed my pump didn't turn off and gas was spilling out and I don't know how many gallons went onto the ground. Based on my bill I know it was between 5 and 10 gallons. I didn't sweat the money because I was in my company car and they paid for all gas. :D BUT, the gas had traveled out of the gas station and down the curb quite a ways. A cigarette tossed out of a car window could have been disasterous. I doubt if a gas pump will explode like in the movies but my car may have. That's another one of those once in a lifetime occurances that result in removing the locks like the guy setting himself on fire.
My question is what makes the gas stop pumping with a locking handle. I assumed the pump nozzle had a trigger of some sort to sense when the gas filled up to the nozzle. I'm thinking if there isn't a switch or something and you jam a knife or something in the handle why does the gas stop pumping when the tank is full? :confused: I would hate to put a $100 knife in the handle, the gas not stop, someone throws a cigarette down, my car blows up and kills two people standing beside my car. That means I just lost a $100 knife.
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A few years ago I pumped the gas by locking a lever and went into the store. While I was in there the cashier noticed my pump didn't turn off and gas was spilling out and I don't know how many gallons went onto the ground. Based on my bill I know it was between 5 and 10 gallons. I didn't sweat the money because I was in my company car and they paid for all gas. :D BUT, the gas had traveled out of the gas station and down the curb quite a ways. A cigarette tossed out of a car window could have been disasterous. I doubt if a gas pump will explode like in the movies but my car may have. That's another one of those once in a lifetime occurances that result in removing the locks like the guy setting himself on fire.
My question is what makes the gas stop pumping with a locking handle. I assumed the pump nozzle had a trigger of some sort to sense when the gas filled up to the nozzle. I'm thinking if there isn't a switch or something and you jam a knife or something in the handle why does the gas stop pumping when the tank is full? :confused: I would hate to put a $100 knife in the handle, the gas not stop, someone throws a cigarette down, my car blows up and kills two people standing beside my car. That means I just lost a $100 knife.
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Same thing that makes it stop if you're holding the lever down by hand, and probably the same thing that causes it to slow down and then stop it if you pay for so many dollars worth in advance. There's an electronic disconnect somewhere, either in the nozzle or the body of the pump. Only difference is, if the auto shutoff mechanism fails while you're holding the nozzle, you will notice it very quickly and let go of the lever.jackknifeh wrote:When I was a kid no one pumped their own gas. I was around 13 years old when Dad pulled into a self-serve station. He was happy thinking it would keep prices a litter lower. At the time they were around 30 cents a gallon during a gas war. Remeber those anyone?
A few years ago I pumped the gas by locking a lever and went into the store. While I was in there the cashier noticed my pump didn't turn off and gas was spilling out and I don't know how many gallons went onto the ground. Based on my bill I know it was between 5 and 10 gallons. I didn't sweat the money because I was in my company car and they paid for all gas. :D BUT, the gas had traveled out of the gas station and down the curb quite a ways. A cigarette tossed out of a car window could have been disasterous. I doubt if a gas pump will explode like in the movies but my car may have. That's another one of those once in a lifetime occurances that result in removing the locks like the guy setting himself on fire.
My question is what makes the gas stop pumping with a locking handle. I assumed the pump nozzle had a trigger of some sort to sense when the gas filled up to the nozzle. I'm thinking if there isn't a switch or something and you jam a knife or something in the handle why does the gas stop pumping when the tank is full? :confused: I would hate to put a $100 knife in the handle, the gas not stop, someone throws a cigarette down, my car blows up and kills two people standing beside my car. That means I just lost a $100 knife.
Jack
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I filled my tank yesterday and, thinking about this thread, I checked out the pump handle to see what was what. It did have the spring loaded tab in the middle of the handle below the trigger but the set of notches on the bottom where the tab would catch to hold open is not present. Looked like the notch piece had been on there at one point and had been replaced by a blank, but who knows how long ago that might have been. Perhaps more likely the handle is made such that it can be set up with or without the notches based on where it's being used.
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Changed it around a decade ago, prop it open with gas cap though.
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The only change I've notice, in Minnesota, is with the bend of the nozzle with relation to my vehicle. I suppose I'm living in the "dark ages" driving a late 90's model, but the nozzles don't reach as far into my filler tube as they did a few years ago. The nozzles used to insert into my filler tube so the rubber flange on nozzle was flush with the tank opening. Now there is a about half of the stainless nozzle showing on when I pump gasoline into my car.
Some of the older stations, that haven't gotten new pumps recently, allow me to insert the nozzle all the way into my car's filler tube. Small issue, but at least I can still set the handle to a pump flow rate and go about doing other things. I really hope they don't change anything.
Being required to stand and hold the lever is pointless and the failure of the pump to stop when it should is not the end users responsibility. They are designed to stop when they should and the consumer should not be held responsible for any faults the mechanism might experience.
Some of the older stations, that haven't gotten new pumps recently, allow me to insert the nozzle all the way into my car's filler tube. Small issue, but at least I can still set the handle to a pump flow rate and go about doing other things. I really hope they don't change anything.
Being required to stand and hold the lever is pointless and the failure of the pump to stop when it should is not the end users responsibility. They are designed to stop when they should and the consumer should not be held responsible for any faults the mechanism might experience.
They took them out a few years ago here in Ontario. A 25' or 16' tape measure fits in there no problem.
I think the reason they were taken out is people were getting back into their car and the electrical potential difference would increase causing static electricity. When they got back out of their car and didn't ground themselves to their car or the pump housing but instead grabbed the pump then there was the potential to ignite the fumes. That's also why you shouldn't fill up a jerrycan while it's sitting in the bed of your truck or in the trunk. This can cause capacitive static electricity. The greater the distance from the ground to the jerrycan is like increasing the distance of the plates of a capacitor which increases the charge.
Most times this is not an issue since the energy of a static electricity shock is only a few micro joules coming to or from humans but I guess if the situation is right it can cause a big problem.
I think the reason they were taken out is people were getting back into their car and the electrical potential difference would increase causing static electricity. When they got back out of their car and didn't ground themselves to their car or the pump housing but instead grabbed the pump then there was the potential to ignite the fumes. That's also why you shouldn't fill up a jerrycan while it's sitting in the bed of your truck or in the trunk. This can cause capacitive static electricity. The greater the distance from the ground to the jerrycan is like increasing the distance of the plates of a capacitor which increases the charge.
Most times this is not an issue since the energy of a static electricity shock is only a few micro joules coming to or from humans but I guess if the situation is right it can cause a big problem.