Hello everyone, Im new here, and just had a quick question about the Rock Salt. Ive been needing a good knife to mount in my jeep when I go wheeling, and I think that the Rock Salt would be perfect, unfortunately (as you all know) its been dicontinued, and I would really like to get my hands on one. Any ideas as far as who still has them?
Thanks!
Rock salt for my heep.
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The Deacon
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You could try Country Knives.
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Yeah, that's way too much. If you want an H1 Spyderco, you can still get the Aqua Salt for about $65. It's much smaller than the Rock Salt, so it may not be what you're looking for. If you want a big knife, you can try to locate one of the Hossom designed Forager or Forrester models.
Outside of Spyderco, you can look at something like the Ontario RATs, or the Esee knives. The Ontarios & Esees aren't stainless, but they're good knives for out in the wilds.
Outside of Spyderco, you can look at something like the Ontario RATs, or the Esee knives. The Ontarios & Esees aren't stainless, but they're good knives for out in the wilds.
Yea they are about $200 +/- on places like eBay it seems these days. An amazing all-around knife. They are talking about doing a run in VG10 full-flat grind version.
Are you looking for a chopper or just a fixed-blade rugged knife? The Bill Moran Spyderco's are still available and they are like $60 or you could find an Aqua Salt for about the same.
There are other rugged choppers on the market too like some from Condor Tool in carbon steel that might fit the job for about $40. Cold Steel makes a sharpened shovel with optional sheath that could hack decent and dig you out when you get stuck off-road. :)
Are you looking for a chopper or just a fixed-blade rugged knife? The Bill Moran Spyderco's are still available and they are like $60 or you could find an Aqua Salt for about the same.
There are other rugged choppers on the market too like some from Condor Tool in carbon steel that might fit the job for about $40. Cold Steel makes a sharpened shovel with optional sheath that could hack decent and dig you out when you get stuck off-road. :)
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I don't have any experience with the SOG Vulcan fixed blade, but from looking at the website, I'd say it's not the right knife for your purposes. It looks to be more designed for tactical / martial arts purposes than general outdoor usage.
Since you'll be wheeling, I suggest that you get a few different tools. A sturdy 4"-6" fixed blade together with a couple of different shape/style machetes (one for heavier chopping, one for lighter vegetation type stuff) will offer you more options than a single knife. If you can fid the room, you might also consider adding a Pulaski axe & shovel in case you need to get unstuck or clear some blocked trails. A folding wood / pruning saw would also be good.
As for the 4"-6" fixed blade... there are a billion choices out there, but the knives that I would recommend / use myself are the Swamp Rat RatManDu or Howling Rat LM, or the Esee Knives Esee-6 or Esee-4. My preference is towards the Swamp Rats, but would take the Esees if I couldn't get the Swamp Rats.
Okay, the above knives are designed for hard, no-BS, real world use, are made from fairly thick pieces of durable carbon steel (no, they're not stainless), and have a lifetime gurantee on the knife - if you break it, they'll replace it - period.
Now, there are other good choices out there... those are my prefernces. Whatever you end up getting, I suggest researching the above mentioned knives, and using the general designs & specifications for evaluating your potential purchases.
Okay, now what about Spyderco. Well, it's hard to say. Fixed blades aren't Spyderco's forte, and while they have made & still make some nice knives, many are either now discontinued, being discontinued, or yet to be manufactured. One of the Spyderco fixies that I own is the Aqua Salt PE, and it's a very durable knife. If you were (or are) looking for a very light, very durable, easy to maintain knife for hiking or backpacking, it's great. If you adhere to some of the principles & techniques of bushcrafting (http://www.youtube.com/user/iawoodsman# ... _ZZj-5A9u0), you can do a lot with the Aqua Salt. While I would personally pick one of my Swamp Rats over my Aqua Salt for serious woods use, I'm confident that the Aqua Salt could keep me alive in the woods if I do my part. They're very much like hi-tech Moras, and Moras are very well regarded.
Spyderco also offered a knife designed for bushcrafting, but had a bit of a false start due to a materials problem, so the knife will be re-introduced with some changes. This knife is designed for living in the woods, so when it gets back into production, it might be a good choice. You can still buy the blank and finish it yourself if you want.
The Rock Salt in H1 is gone, but it's supposed to be replaced by a VG-10 FFG model. I don't know when that is, however. You could get one used, or pay a lot for a new one if you find it, but IMO, there are better choices for the money if it's going to cost far above retail. I would personally wait for the new one.
Also from Spyderco are the Jerry Hossom designs - also discontinued. But they're designed for heavy-duty woods use, especially chopping, and can probably be found for less than the Rock Salt.
I guess the other things you could look at are a decent multi-tool (I like the Leatherman wave), a SAK like the Victorinox Farmer, and a good fire starter or two (firesteel.com, Yankee Candle Kindle Candles).
Since you'll be wheeling, I suggest that you get a few different tools. A sturdy 4"-6" fixed blade together with a couple of different shape/style machetes (one for heavier chopping, one for lighter vegetation type stuff) will offer you more options than a single knife. If you can fid the room, you might also consider adding a Pulaski axe & shovel in case you need to get unstuck or clear some blocked trails. A folding wood / pruning saw would also be good.
As for the 4"-6" fixed blade... there are a billion choices out there, but the knives that I would recommend / use myself are the Swamp Rat RatManDu or Howling Rat LM, or the Esee Knives Esee-6 or Esee-4. My preference is towards the Swamp Rats, but would take the Esees if I couldn't get the Swamp Rats.
Okay, the above knives are designed for hard, no-BS, real world use, are made from fairly thick pieces of durable carbon steel (no, they're not stainless), and have a lifetime gurantee on the knife - if you break it, they'll replace it - period.
Now, there are other good choices out there... those are my prefernces. Whatever you end up getting, I suggest researching the above mentioned knives, and using the general designs & specifications for evaluating your potential purchases.
Okay, now what about Spyderco. Well, it's hard to say. Fixed blades aren't Spyderco's forte, and while they have made & still make some nice knives, many are either now discontinued, being discontinued, or yet to be manufactured. One of the Spyderco fixies that I own is the Aqua Salt PE, and it's a very durable knife. If you were (or are) looking for a very light, very durable, easy to maintain knife for hiking or backpacking, it's great. If you adhere to some of the principles & techniques of bushcrafting (http://www.youtube.com/user/iawoodsman# ... _ZZj-5A9u0), you can do a lot with the Aqua Salt. While I would personally pick one of my Swamp Rats over my Aqua Salt for serious woods use, I'm confident that the Aqua Salt could keep me alive in the woods if I do my part. They're very much like hi-tech Moras, and Moras are very well regarded.
Spyderco also offered a knife designed for bushcrafting, but had a bit of a false start due to a materials problem, so the knife will be re-introduced with some changes. This knife is designed for living in the woods, so when it gets back into production, it might be a good choice. You can still buy the blank and finish it yourself if you want.
The Rock Salt in H1 is gone, but it's supposed to be replaced by a VG-10 FFG model. I don't know when that is, however. You could get one used, or pay a lot for a new one if you find it, but IMO, there are better choices for the money if it's going to cost far above retail. I would personally wait for the new one.
Also from Spyderco are the Jerry Hossom designs - also discontinued. But they're designed for heavy-duty woods use, especially chopping, and can probably be found for less than the Rock Salt.
I guess the other things you could look at are a decent multi-tool (I like the Leatherman wave), a SAK like the Victorinox Farmer, and a good fire starter or two (firesteel.com, Yankee Candle Kindle Candles).
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Rock Salt Bar None
Yes, the Rock Salt is pricey, but thats because it is one of the most awesome blades around!
It excels at the 2 kinds of cool:
1) its highly functional, well designed, great quality, etc.
2) its sexy and offers great pride of ownership
More on Function:
How great is this blade? Let me count the ways! Its light-weight yet super big & strong! Some reports say the Rock Salt gets "harder & sharper" the more you use it (a quality of H1 Steel). It will never rust - if it goes to the bottom of the ocean and is re-discovered years later it will look brand new! Few knives handle like the Rock Salt - it truly is an extension of your hand. It offers multiple grip options for detailed work or heavy pounding/whacking (holding the end of the knife with finger grooves adds an extra 1.5 inches to the overall length). Its great as an outdoorsmen's knife, but obviously serves well in a marine environment (rust-proof) and in self-defense / tactical (light weight, greater mobility, intimidating too!) and even in the kitchen!
More on Cool:
In a word: sexy! There is something almost majestic about this knife. Its form is simple, yet unique and complex. Its balance is superb. The shape of the blade is mesmerizing as is the grain in the H1 steel. The handle is cool but can be removed and replaced with a custom one (pics coming!) and the lanyard hole will look good with a nice paracord wrap coming off the end. The laser engraved Ed Schemp logo is sweet, too! Overall this knife just catches the eye and intrigues and offers much more than its function alone, hence the higher the price.
So like most things, if you only want function, be sure to research because as mentioned, you can get better value for your money elsewhere, but if you want it all - function and good looks! - then its always going to be pricey - but notice this knife has really gone up in price since it was discontinued. As it's legend grows and availability decreases, expect the price to continue to climb - $380 may be cheap some day!
Of note is the re-sale value too - a used Rock Salt losses very little value!! The more use, the greater the properties of the steel become (within reason of course). Also - the more pride you have in something, the more you'll take care of it, use it and get value out of it. Sometimes if an item is only one kind of cool (function) you can forget about it when you have no need for it's function (or mistreat it because its cheaper and doesn't mean as much to you).
Finally - with Halloween coming up, it could make a great costume prop!
Good Luck!
It excels at the 2 kinds of cool:
1) its highly functional, well designed, great quality, etc.
2) its sexy and offers great pride of ownership
More on Function:
How great is this blade? Let me count the ways! Its light-weight yet super big & strong! Some reports say the Rock Salt gets "harder & sharper" the more you use it (a quality of H1 Steel). It will never rust - if it goes to the bottom of the ocean and is re-discovered years later it will look brand new! Few knives handle like the Rock Salt - it truly is an extension of your hand. It offers multiple grip options for detailed work or heavy pounding/whacking (holding the end of the knife with finger grooves adds an extra 1.5 inches to the overall length). Its great as an outdoorsmen's knife, but obviously serves well in a marine environment (rust-proof) and in self-defense / tactical (light weight, greater mobility, intimidating too!) and even in the kitchen!
More on Cool:
In a word: sexy! There is something almost majestic about this knife. Its form is simple, yet unique and complex. Its balance is superb. The shape of the blade is mesmerizing as is the grain in the H1 steel. The handle is cool but can be removed and replaced with a custom one (pics coming!) and the lanyard hole will look good with a nice paracord wrap coming off the end. The laser engraved Ed Schemp logo is sweet, too! Overall this knife just catches the eye and intrigues and offers much more than its function alone, hence the higher the price.
So like most things, if you only want function, be sure to research because as mentioned, you can get better value for your money elsewhere, but if you want it all - function and good looks! - then its always going to be pricey - but notice this knife has really gone up in price since it was discontinued. As it's legend grows and availability decreases, expect the price to continue to climb - $380 may be cheap some day!
Of note is the re-sale value too - a used Rock Salt losses very little value!! The more use, the greater the properties of the steel become (within reason of course). Also - the more pride you have in something, the more you'll take care of it, use it and get value out of it. Sometimes if an item is only one kind of cool (function) you can forget about it when you have no need for it's function (or mistreat it because its cheaper and doesn't mean as much to you).
Finally - with Halloween coming up, it could make a great costume prop!
Good Luck!
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Back_In_Black
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As Paul suggested, Country Knives should have one.
However, they tend to know what they have when it comes to discontinued models and charge MSRP or more if a particular model happens to be selling for higher than MSRP on the secondary market. Some would say it's unfair, but they cater to a niche market of collectors who will pay anything for a particular discontinued model. They also sell pretty much everything else at MSRP.
Apart from that, I would say your best bet would be to wait it out and see if you can snag one on eBay or on the trade section of somewhere like BladeForums. You should be able to pick one up NIB for around two hundred bucks.
I wish you luck in your quest!
However, they tend to know what they have when it comes to discontinued models and charge MSRP or more if a particular model happens to be selling for higher than MSRP on the secondary market. Some would say it's unfair, but they cater to a niche market of collectors who will pay anything for a particular discontinued model. They also sell pretty much everything else at MSRP.
Apart from that, I would say your best bet would be to wait it out and see if you can snag one on eBay or on the trade section of somewhere like BladeForums. You should be able to pick one up NIB for around two hundred bucks.
I wish you luck in your quest!
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