Chinook 3 deployment speed

Aedrick · #1

I just got my Chinook 3. It's a pretty sweet blade. My only criticism is that the deployment of the blade is pretty slow for a MBC knife. Is it just me or are there others who also think that the blade deployment needs to be faster for Chinook 3? My guess is that the full flat ground blade is too light to get a decent momentum build up, kind of like Caly 3. Oddly the full flat ground Endura 4, I have no problem deploying quickly. I've also had no problem with the deployment speed of Chinook 2.

chuck_roxas45 · #2

Yes, it is somewhat slow but you can carry tip up and do the zip tie thing.

v8r · #3

To me the flat ground blade was performance reducing on the 3, but thats My opinion.Have a 1 and 2 also, carry them all the time, but the 3 always stays at home

chuck_roxas45 · #4

v8r wrote:To me the flat ground blade was performance reducing on the 3, but thats My opinion.Have a 1 and 2 also, carry them all the time, but the 3 always stays at home

I hear that a lot. Can you tell me please what the 'nook 3 does less better than the 2 0r the 1?

Aedrick · #5

So, is there a way we can speed up the deployment speed somehow? I think I've already done all the lubing and screw adjustments I can without the knife falling apart...

markg · #6

"Deployment speed" is only necessary to impress teenagers.

The Chinook can be opened reliably, safely, and quick enough for any intended need or purpose.

Aedrick · #7

markg wrote:"Deployment speed" is only necessary to impress teenagers.

The Chinook can be opened reliably, safely, and quick enough for any intended need or purpose.

You may be right. I don't know how much a split second would make a difference in a real life combat situation. But, it does bother me that my $50 Endura comes out so much quicker and easier than my $130 Chinook which was designed specifically for the purpose of combat in mind.

markg · #8

Anytime you take a knife and give it a flat grind, it will deploy slower with inertia openings.

Take a saber ground Endura and a flat ground Endura. I can't inertia open a flat ground one to save my life. Less blade mass.

I prefer a two handed tactical opening anyway so to me it is moot point.

Blerv · #9

Aedrick wrote:You may be right. I don't know how much a split second would make a difference in a real life combat situation. But, it does bother me that my $50 Endura comes out so much quicker and easier than my $130 Chinook which was designed specifically for the purpose of combat in mind.

Practice and positioning.

It's pretty quick to get any knife out of a coat pocket when your hand is resting on it.

The Chinook series is very blade heavy and you can inertia open or zip-tie it to snap out quick. Put a lanyard on the end and practice I would say. My guess with some practice you can get better...everyone can. I thought I was pretty quick but looking at Michael Janich's videos mine are slow-motion. :)

As for "real combat" if you are prepping for this then put it in a easier to reach place or get a fixed-blade. It's a civilian-designed knife first and foremost, not a battlefield weapon. That said, once locked it's one of the most stout folders in the world and nearly a fixed blade.

I'm not trying to be coy with the "battlefield" statement, it's just that there are other blades available like the StreetBeat and Warrior that are more battle-ready with sheaths that can be clipped in various positions.

Note: My brother did a few zip-tie draws with his Chinook2 and it snapped open quite quick and intimidating.

Aedrick · #10

Blerv wrote:Practice and positioning.
I thought I was pretty quick but looking at Michael Janich's videos mine are slow-motion. :)
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Would you link the video? I would love to see it.

Blades · #11

I can deploy mine fast. As fast as I would like? No, but fast enough. It is my left side carry knife, I'm slower with my left hand.

JohnAPA · #12

Aedrick wrote:Would you link the video? I would love to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJC15lEZwx0

FIMS · #13

How the "F" do I learn how to flip a knife like that???

His knife deployments are super'sick!

Aedrick · #14

JohnAPA wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJC15lEZwx0

Very nice! I can deploy a lot of my knives fast, but not quite that fast. With Chinook 3, I might as well don't even bother, lol.

chuck_roxas45 · #15

I guess you learn that with hours of practice and several dozen pants. :D

markg · #16

FIMS wrote:How the "F" do I learn how to flip a knife like that???

His knife deployments are super'sick!

The basic is an inertia opening. The flips from forward to reverse grip... Well let's just say Mike is pretty proficient with a Balisong...

v8r · #17

I'm not much in to inertia openings.I can flick most of my knives open with my thumb very quickly if needed.The Chinook 3 is not as good a cutter as the 2 and 1 in my opinion.This is what i meant by performance reducing.

chuck_roxas45 · #18

v8r wrote:I'm not much in to inertia openings.I can flick most of my knives open with my thumb very quickly if needed.The Chinook 3 is not as good a cutter as the 2 and 1 in my opinion.This is what i meant by performance reducing.

I understand.

v8r · #19

This has always been my argument to the people that think that a Flat ground blade is always better.Sometimes it is not.All three of my Chinooks are hair popping sharp, but it has been quite noticeable that the third version actually does not cut things as well as The Chinook 1 and 2.Like I say this is how it seems in my usage.Your results may vary.

jzmtl · #20

The reason is quite simple, even thou it's flat ground the thickness behind the edge is actually quite high. Compare with caly 3 I'd say it's perhaps 3 times thicker, at least on mine.