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Michael Janich
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Dear VashHash:VashHash wrote:Micheal what are you thoughts on hawkbill blades for SD purposes? I'm sure they do well but I would think you have better knowledge on this subject than i would. Have you ever tried them on your porkman dummy
Hawkbills are awesome cutters and typically perform very well on PorkMan (still one of the lesser-known superheroes). The concave shape of the cutting edge "collects" the material being cut--like an animal's claw--and on soft materials it does great. Like a wharncliffe, it also cuts with full power all the way to the tip.
On the down side, many hawkbills curve so radically that you lose the utility of the point--especially as a thrusting tool. While I am a firm believer that properly targeted cuts are a more effective and responsible way of stopping an attacker than repeated thrusts (particularly with small, legal-to-carry knives), sometimes a thrust is necessary to penetrate clothing so you can then cut the parts that will make the attacker stop. That's where most hawkbills fall short because they don't have the proper handle-to-blade angle to complement a natural wrist angle.
Also, hawbills can be prone to snagging on things that are not soft tissue. When that happens, they're more difficult to recover than a straighter blade configuration.
I hope this answers your question. If I fell short on anything, let me know and I'll try to fill in the blanks.
Stay safe,
Mike
Michael Janich
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
Thanks again for the speedy response michael i appreciate your knowledge and i saw the porkman in a knife magazine recently. I have yet to build one myself but i understand what you mean. I usually carry a leaf blade and a hawkbill on me at all times. But in a dire situation the leaf blade can just as easily be deployed. I don't have a folding wharnecliffe yet but i do have two spins coming in. Of course size matters but when something can easily be concealed in the hand one tends to barely notice it or see it as a threat. I feel deception is very very important in SD i would of course prefer not to use a knife but if i ever were in such a situation where i had to i'd prefer my attacker not know it until it's too late. Again thanks very much.
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Hi MJ !
Please give us a drop point Chinook ! MG2
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Dear VashHash:VashHash wrote:Thanks again for the speedy response michael i appreciate your knowledge and i saw the porkman in a knife magazine recently. I have yet to build one myself but i understand what you mean. I usually carry a leaf blade and a hawkbill on me at all times. But in a dire situation the leaf blade can just as easily be deployed. I don't have a folding wharnecliffe yet but i do have two spins coming in. Of course size matters but when something can easily be concealed in the hand one tends to barely notice it or see it as a threat. I feel deception is very very important in SD i would of course prefer not to use a knife but if i ever were in such a situation where i had to i'd prefer my attacker not know it until it's too late. Again thanks very much.
You're welcome.
One thing to remember: Edge geometry plays a huge part in the cutting performance of ALL blade profiles. If you get the geometry right, your knife will cut. Spyderco does that exceedingly well. As such, leaf-shaped blades and other blade designs can still make extremely potent personal defense tools. If we assume that all edge geometry is equal, then the other aspects of blade profile come into play and things get even better.
Stay safe,
Mike
Michael Janich
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Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
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Dear Manix Guy 2:Manix Guy 2 wrote:Please give us a drop point Chinook ! MG2
I'm happy to relay messages and support worthy causes, but please understand that my powers are limited. If I truly had such magical powers, I'd have a full head of hair...
Stay safe,
Mike
Michael Janich
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
I thought that was for aerodynamic tactical advantage.Michael Janich wrote:Dear Manix Guy 2:
I'm happy to relay messages and support worthy causes, but please understand that my powers are limited. If I truly had such magical powers, I'd have a full head of hair...
Stay safe,
Mike
"It's like he channels dead crazy people!"-Brock Samson
Officially corrupted by Sequimite
Own:E4W E4W trainer, D4W, D4W trainer, Centofante 4, Swick II, FFG E4 w/ foliage green G-10,Mule Team 5 and 6
Want list: ZDP Stretch, Original and New Yojimbos, Perrin PPT
My wish-existed list: More MBC-esque blades.
Officially corrupted by Sequimite
Own:E4W E4W trainer, D4W, D4W trainer, Centofante 4, Swick II, FFG E4 w/ foliage green G-10,Mule Team 5 and 6
Want list: ZDP Stretch, Original and New Yojimbos, Perrin PPT
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A belated welcome to Mr. Janich. Not only he is a great proffessionist and knife designer but a special person as well. I am very glad to see quality people gathering around Spyderco - it can only be beneficial for all of us :D
The mind commands the body and it obeys. The mind orders itself and meets resistance.
Were you planning on buying one, or marrying one?MCM wrote:I am just waiting to find out if its going to be something old, something new? something borrowed or something blue..... :D
"It's like he channels dead crazy people!"-Brock Samson
Officially corrupted by Sequimite
Own:E4W E4W trainer, D4W, D4W trainer, Centofante 4, Swick II, FFG E4 w/ foliage green G-10,Mule Team 5 and 6
Want list: ZDP Stretch, Original and New Yojimbos, Perrin PPT
My wish-existed list: More MBC-esque blades.
Officially corrupted by Sequimite
Own:E4W E4W trainer, D4W, D4W trainer, Centofante 4, Swick II, FFG E4 w/ foliage green G-10,Mule Team 5 and 6
Want list: ZDP Stretch, Original and New Yojimbos, Perrin PPT
My wish-existed list: More MBC-esque blades.
LOL, great comment.... I would marry one if it were legal :D
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I think many here would like to know if an older model of his will get a freshening up, or a new model all-together will be created, or one of Sal's or Eric's models will get tweaked, or if the Yojimbo will come back in Blue with a CBL in S90v. :D
Hence my comment.........
Hence my comment.........
:spyder: :eek: :spyder: :eek: :spyder: :eek: :spyder:
More S90v & CF please.......
More S90v & CF please.......
I figured that's what you were talking about, but i couldn't pass up the humor.MCM wrote:, or if the Yojimbo will come back in Blue with a CBL in S90v. :D
Hence my comment.........
"It's like he channels dead crazy people!"-Brock Samson
Officially corrupted by Sequimite
Own:E4W E4W trainer, D4W, D4W trainer, Centofante 4, Swick II, FFG E4 w/ foliage green G-10,Mule Team 5 and 6
Want list: ZDP Stretch, Original and New Yojimbos, Perrin PPT
My wish-existed list: More MBC-esque blades.
Officially corrupted by Sequimite
Own:E4W E4W trainer, D4W, D4W trainer, Centofante 4, Swick II, FFG E4 w/ foliage green G-10,Mule Team 5 and 6
Want list: ZDP Stretch, Original and New Yojimbos, Perrin PPT
My wish-existed list: More MBC-esque blades.
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Well said! I'll have to borrow that one--with proper credit, of course.psychophipps wrote:Just keep one thing in mind, Mr. Janich. God does not put marble tops on cheap furniture! :cool:
Stay safe,
Mike
Michael Janich
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
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Spyderco has always been very supportive of my efforts to teach MBC and its related disciplines. We've always maintained a very positive relationship on that topic because we share the same commitment to responsible, ethical self-protection. However, because of the liabilities involved in the training business, we keep the two activities separate.dd61999 wrote:So will we see spyderco DVD series featuring Michael Janich.
The "official" source for my DVDs and training materials is Stay Safe Media (http://www.staysafemedia.com), which is operated by my good friend Mike Rigg--who is also one of the few fully certified MBC instructors. He understands my approach to tactics better than anyone and I trust him to accurately and faithfully represent that information on video.
With all that said, my original video series--"Fighting Folders"--no longer represents the state of the art in MBC. Stay Safe and I will transcend it with newer, better material.
Stay safe,
Mike
Michael Janich
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
Is this referring to the existing MBC and CBC videos?Michael Janich wrote: With all that said, my original video series--"Fighting Folders"--no longer represents the state of the art in MBC. Stay Safe and I will transcend it with newer, better material.
"It's like he channels dead crazy people!"-Brock Samson
Officially corrupted by Sequimite
Own:E4W E4W trainer, D4W, D4W trainer, Centofante 4, Swick II, FFG E4 w/ foliage green G-10,Mule Team 5 and 6
Want list: ZDP Stretch, Original and New Yojimbos, Perrin PPT
My wish-existed list: More MBC-esque blades.
Officially corrupted by Sequimite
Own:E4W E4W trainer, D4W, D4W trainer, Centofante 4, Swick II, FFG E4 w/ foliage green G-10,Mule Team 5 and 6
Want list: ZDP Stretch, Original and New Yojimbos, Perrin PPT
My wish-existed list: More MBC-esque blades.
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The "Martial Blade Concepts" video is by far the most accurate representation of the current state of the art of the MBC system. Very soon a revised version of it will be available exclusively from Stay Safe that includes a bonus section on how to get the most out of solo training.sarguy wrote:Is this referring to the existing MBC and CBC videos?
The CBC video is also solid, though there have been some quantum leaps in the evolution of that system as well. Once Stay Safe documents those (probably next year), the new version will transcend the old.
"Fighting Folders" and "Advanced Fighting Folders" reflect the initial drill-based approach of MBC and do not fully reflect the current evolved understanding of knife stopping power. Serious students still do all the drills, so these videos are a useful reference for drill mechanics and transitions; however, the core applications of the skills have been refined and simplified. That information will be covered in future volumes of the "Martial Blade Concepts" series.
I hope this helps.
Stay safe,
Mike
Michael Janich
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts
Spyderco Special Projects Coordinator
Founder and Lead Instructor, Martial Blade Concepts