I took apart the LWD Glock knife and a Endura 4 to swap the blades and found that the blades do not fit in the other's handle. I was under the impression that the LWD glock knife was same as Endura 4, but clearly there's some dimensional differences between the two. Does anyone have any input on this? Thanks.
This is the LWD glock knife i'm talking about. http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=1076
LWD Glock knive and Endura 4 are different?
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i havent taken apart the glock endura yet, no need i guess. pics would help show us what isnt fitting together. thanks
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What I meant was when I took the Endura 4 blade and put it in the LWD knife, the knife would sink too much, and the LWD blade into Endura 4 handle would result in the blade sticking out too much when closed, so much so that the point of the blade would be placed outside the handle. I'm confused as to why Spyderco would make the LWD knife in different specs than the Endura 4.
This thread reminds me of a story told by a mechanical engineer friend. Computer parts (lots of expensive parts) made from the same drawings at three different plants (California, Ireland & Japan) were not interchangeable.
Isn't every single knife made today fitted individually so that no two knives are identical and no two major knife parts (ie, blade and backspring contact face) are perfectly interchangeable?
Or, is the manufacture of knives today so advanced and precise that knives of the same model and their major parts are identical to one another?
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Isn't every single knife made today fitted individually so that no two knives are identical and no two major knife parts (ie, blade and backspring contact face) are perfectly interchangeable?
Or, is the manufacture of knives today so advanced and precise that knives of the same model and their major parts are identical to one another?
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Exactly. The fact that some folks have gotten lucky is no guarantee that the next person who tries it will.
On the other hand, did you interchange both the blade and the lockbar? That's the recommended way to build a FrankenSpyder since the two parts are sometimes fitted to one another.
On the other hand, did you interchange both the blade and the lockbar? That's the recommended way to build a FrankenSpyder since the two parts are sometimes fitted to one another.
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The LWD Endura has the Glock tool in the butt of the handle so maybe the internals of that knife had to be modified ever so slightly in order to accomodate that tool. Thus, the regular Endura blade, when placed in that handle will stick out a bit. This is just my best guess, and it could very well be that I am 100% wrong, but it's all I could come up with.
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Yes, I did swap the lock bar with it to maintain the fit.
I understand that each knives may have some variations, but I've done this before with my other Endura 4s to see, and they swapped just fine. I even swapped the USN Endura blade with the G10 Endura and that worked perfectly. Like Jay Ev mentioned above, my suspicion is with Spyderco designing the LWD slightly differently to accomodate the glock punch. It's puzzling though, I was thinking it wouldn't have been so hard to put in the punch without changing the rest of the knife. But then I'm no knife maker...
I understand that each knives may have some variations, but I've done this before with my other Endura 4s to see, and they swapped just fine. I even swapped the USN Endura blade with the G10 Endura and that worked perfectly. Like Jay Ev mentioned above, my suspicion is with Spyderco designing the LWD slightly differently to accomodate the glock punch. It's puzzling though, I was thinking it wouldn't have been so hard to put in the punch without changing the rest of the knife. But then I'm no knife maker...
Correct. When comparing closed photos of both knives, you can see that the blade of the regular Endure 4 sits deeper in the handle. The Glock tool knife has less room for the blade to to sit because of the tool in the handle.Jay_Ev wrote:The LWD Endura has the Glock tool in the butt of the handle so maybe the internals of that knife had to be modified ever so slightly in order to accomodate that tool. Thus, the regular Endura blade, when placed in that handle will stick out a bit. This is just my best guess, and it could very well be that I am 100% wrong, but it's all I could come up with.
I have both the regular Spyderco Endura 4 FRN (in PE, SE, and CE) as well as both the PE and SE versions of the Spyderco/Lone Wolf Endura Glock Knife. Two things I've noticed...
- The blades on my Endura Glock Knives sit deeper inside the handle than my Endura 4s. I like this about the Endura Glock Knives as it ensures as much of the blade point is secured within the handle to prevent it from snagging on something, like my fingers.
- There does seem to be a slight difference in the design and/or shape of the blades for the Endura Glock Knives as compared to the Endura 4s. In fact, I like the the shape/design of the blades for Endura Glock Knives better. The blades of these knives just look nicer to me.
Quite frankly, I'd rather EDC the Endura Glock Knives for their looks, the more secured blade tips, and the armorer's tool, which could, no doubt, be used for a variety of tasks.
- The blades on my Endura Glock Knives sit deeper inside the handle than my Endura 4s. I like this about the Endura Glock Knives as it ensures as much of the blade point is secured within the handle to prevent it from snagging on something, like my fingers.
- There does seem to be a slight difference in the design and/or shape of the blades for the Endura Glock Knives as compared to the Endura 4s. In fact, I like the the shape/design of the blades for Endura Glock Knives better. The blades of these knives just look nicer to me.
Quite frankly, I'd rather EDC the Endura Glock Knives for their looks, the more secured blade tips, and the armorer's tool, which could, no doubt, be used for a variety of tasks.