Safe Queens ?

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Safe Queens ?

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What is the best way to store valuable knives for long term safe keeping?

So far i have mine greased down with wd-40 and sealed in plastic baggies...


should i have a concern years later ?

what do you do ?
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.....I just wipe the metal parts down once a year with a Marine Tuff cloth and put the knife back in the box. I think most important they should be stored in a room with a fairly stable temperature and low to moderate humidity. I follow these guidelines having stored knives for many, many years without problems.

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Riot:

Wd40 is good for loosening bolts and to displace moisture but is not that great for lubing or long term storage. Better stuff out there like Mill-tec, FP10 etc. AG Russel sells a preservative (Rust Free) that is very good
http://www.agrussell.com/accessories/polishing.html

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I wipe down with Birchwood Casey Sheath
and store between "Bore Store's" bulk material.
(long piece folded over)
Many use many things... This works for me. :)
(I would not use WD40 & plastic bags, just me)

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I coat the blades with Rem-Oil and then vacuum seal the knives I've retired. I've found this combo works the best for me.

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It is more of a pure storage solution since you can't touch the knives nor display them either. Not very sexy looking at all. :o
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Break Free CLP is what you want to use. Over and over again it tests out as the best (or second best depending on the tester) product you can use for cleaning guns. It's the default gun cleaner/oil we use in the military. I't's not cheap, but it certainly isn't the most expensive preservative wonder oil out there.
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I would avoid plastic bags in general, they can hold moisture in also.

A small safe with humidity control would be best.

If not...

I like Marine Tuff Cloth. It does leave a film on the blade, but big deal. Also you want to store them in a way you can check on them. Storage solutions that don't allow access are problematic.

Also, consider theft. A good safe is great investment. You can get some pretty inexpensive examples at discount stores, designed for guns. They are not super heavy nor are they fire rated. But bolted to some studs, it should keep all but the most determined thieves from getting the safe.
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I don't use plastic bags... in fact I remove mine from it's plastic wrap and leave it in the box outside the plastic. I wipe mine down with a film of oil... only need a very thin amount. I have been told plastic bags can work against you by trapping whatever moisture is in the air.

Currently I use Inox fishing reel oil, but will be trying out Break Free ( which is what I use on my guns ) after the Inox runs out.

All my knives are in a locked cupboard in my study with a lot of those dessicant packets strewn in each drawer where the knives are kept. Air conditioning also runs to my study to keep the temperature fairly constant (I have a server running in there :p )

Humidity kills steel :( well... H1 is the miracle cure !!! :D
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All my spydies are locked in a safe deposit box.































ya right..

I use them all..


the only thing in Mint condition are the boxes they all came in.
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spoonrobot wrote:I coat the blades with Rem-Oil and then vacuum seal the knives I've retired. I've found this combo works the best for me.

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It is more of a pure storage solution since you can't touch the knives nor display them either. Not very sexy looking at all. :o
Whats with all the dodos man?? lol put them back out there if your not gonna use em! lol keep one and sell the others so ppl like me can finally get ahold of one..
I count 7 in that pile! :eek: :confused: why?

and one more question..Whats the model above that salt and by the captain..? the real skinny looking one?
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datan wrote:I don't use plastic bags... in fact I remove mine from it's plastic wrap and leave it in the box outside the plastic. I wipe mine down with a film of oil... only need a very thin amount. I have been told plastic bags can work against you by trapping whatever moisture is in the air.

Currently I use Inox fishing reel oil, but will be trying out Break Free ( which is what I use on my guns ) after the Inox runs out.

All my knives are in a locked cupboard in my study with a lot of those dessicant packets strewn in each drawer where the knives are kept. Air conditioning also runs to my study to keep the temperature fairly constant (I have a server running in there :p )

Humidity kills steel :( well... H1 is the miracle cure !!! :D
Not to shoot a hole in your theory but then why would they be shipped that way if it were bad for the knife,If spyderco thought it would harm the knife they would use an alternative wrapping.
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Short term storage is fine IMHO, but I think that longer term storage especially in locked containers/ cupboards can be damaging for a knife if in a plastic bag. I've had Spydies come to me in less than minty condition due to being in their plastic sleeve. They become dirty/ tarnished. I cleaned them up nice :) Dirt and dusct can still get into places that you never thought possible. When they combine with moisture it can stick to your stored knife and it's that moist contact that kills steel over time.

I prefer leaving them out of the bag but still in the box. Dehumidifier or dessicant in the cupboard/safe to wick moisture out of the air. Regular maintenance (checking, cleaning and applying cleaning& protective lube like BreakFree CLP) will keep longer term stuff well protected.

Just my own way of looking after my safe queens :) I have a fair few of these, but the get some attention once in a while. When I decide I can't bear to use any of my queens in the medium to long term, I tend to sell them off ie: If I can't see myself using it, I part with it :( A fair few of my EDC pile (**** pile is getting larger by the day !) also gets routine maintenance along with my safe queens.
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spyderHS08 wrote:.......
and one more question..Whats the model above that salt and by the captain..? the real skinny looking one?

Are you refering to the Shabaria ?

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datan wrote:Short term storage is fine IMHO, but I think that longer term storage especially in locked containers/ cupboards can be damaging for a knife if in a plastic bag. I've had Spydies come to me in less than minty condition due to being in their plastic sleeve. They become dirty/ tarnished. I cleaned them up nice :) Dirt and dusct can still get into places that you never thought possible. When they combine with moisture it can stick to your stored knife and it's that moist contact that kills steel over time.

I prefer leaving them out of the bag but still in the box. Dehumidifier or dessicant in the cupboard/safe to wick moisture out of the air. Regular maintenance (checking, cleaning and applying cleaning& protective lube like BreakFree CLP) will keep longer term stuff well protected.

Just my own way of looking after my safe queens :) I have a fair few of these, but the get some attention once in a while. When I decide I can't bear to use any of my queens in the medium to long term, I tend to sell them off ie: If I can't see myself using it, I part with it :( A fair few of my EDC pile (**** pile is getting larger by the day !) also gets routine maintenance along with my safe queens.
Thats good advice,i need to remove the plastic from my safe queens i also like the idea of dessicants as well. By the way if you have any PE harpy`s you want to part with from your safe queens let me know. :D
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I don't think bags are bad for the knife either but it's not the most appealing solution ;) They make plastic bags specially design for this purpose
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/BAG196-1.html
I like the tool chest. They also make wooden knife storage cabinets, again AG Russell has them. I keep most of mine in a Knifepack and the more valuable ones in the safe.
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Shike wrote:I don't think bags are bad for the knife either but it's not the most appealing solution ;) They make plastic bags specially design for this purpose
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/BAG196-1.html
I like the tool chest. They also make wooden knife storage cabinets, again AG Russell has them. I keep most of mine in a Knifepack and the more valuable ones in the safe.
You probably could throw a dessicant in there too. Do you have a link to there website?
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Lots of options out there.
Have used Bore Stores on blue'd steel http://www.borestores.com/
for about 20 yrs now with zero no rust / pitting etc. issues.
So I called and it was not a problem getting custom sheets made up.
Just another option.

I would however avoid storing in wood........
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spoonrobot wrote:I coat the blades with Rem-Oil and then vacuum seal the knives I've retired. I've found this combo works the best for me.

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It is more of a pure storage solution since you can't touch the knives nor display them either. Not very sexy looking at all. :o
this is a great picture, i really need to invest in one of these vacum sealers, storing bullets would work great too
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RIOT wrote:this is a great picture, i really need to invest in one of these vacum sealers, storing bullets would work great too
I was actually reading on vacuum sealing bullets, and most people agreed that with the current tech. it really isnt worth the hassle for ammo.
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I vacuum packed my police 3... and I dipped my WWII Mauser bayonet into axle grease and put it back in the sheath :) still looks great after 3 years of not seeing it
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