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And I LOVE Jim Grover/Kelly McCann´s tapes (although I only know the Combatives series and Self-Offense). He´s really hardcore and realistic as far as I know.
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hey guys,
remember all of these things are just tools and to use them efectivly you really need to train with them .the mind is the ultimate weapon imho of course.
stay safe,
john
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sorry for triple posting


Edited by - gunandtackle on 3/5/2002 9:01:02 AM
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sorry again

Edited by - gunandtackle on 3/5/2002 9:01:52 AM
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What if...
Personnally the first thing to do is to avoid the fight : run, deter. Life is too precious. Then if the fight is unavoidable, use the environment : sun, position... Use what you find as improvised weapons, like trash can, bottle, belt, sand, whatever...
If you are always equipped I totally agree with the asp fans (like me ;-)) since you know how to use it properly.
In fact any choice is good since you know what you do and you do it correctly...
Training and mindset first...
And OK if you're pissed off, .12gauge http://www.wilsoncombat.com/sgt/sgtindex.htm...
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oups
double tap
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Edited by - jwest on 3/7/2002 6:48:12 AM
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Yeah thanx guys, the maximum size baton I can get here is 26 inch, which should be plenty in terms of reach, in my mind(may be wrong) I wouldnt wanna go for something to long, thinking that what if the attacker gets up close, the shorter baton to me might be a bit easier to use.

Im definately gonne get my hands on a casco 26 inch baton for me and my pal once he recovers.
Theyve just operated on him 2day, his lung collapsed again, so please, keep kevin in your prayers.
he needs it.

Thanx guys, take care

MaNcEr

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Dear MaNcEr:

Best wishes to your buddy for a speedy recovery.

To all ASP fans, Paladin Press has just finished the editing of a two-tape video set featuring Kelly McCann (aka Jim Grover)teaching the practical street use of the ASP. It is by far the best short course in the use of the tactical baton I've ever seen on tape.

The video, "Collapsible Baton Tactics: A Hardcore Guide to the Combative Use of the Tactical Baton," will be officially available in May through our catalog, but will probably be available a few weeks early through our web site www.paladin-press.com.

Stay safe,



mike j
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Great news! How far is the video series collapsible-baton-specific, and how much could be used with an ordinary stick/baton? And by the way, watching the stick portion of Grover´s Combatives series, I got the impression that Kelly McCann is trained in some Filipino style or the other (he even refers to some moves with the Filipino terms). I might be wrong, but do you know anything about the origin of his stick style (except he´s probably mostly based in WWII techniques à la Styers and Fairbairn)?
And thanks for the training tip on #2 reverse grip slash!

Edited by - judge on 3/9/2002 12:04:02 PM
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I've just gotten an Endura 50/50 and a Cricket PE. Wouldn't help against really bad BGs, but it's good enough against common thugs that frequent my city at night...
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Dear Judge:

Kelly's tapes deal with all aspects of selecting, carrying, and using collapsible batons. As such, the use portion, which accounts for about 70 percent of the tape, would also apply to standard batons.

Kelly has trained in the Filipino arts and has adopted the aspects he feels are most compatible with his overall approach to combatives.

I have had the privilege of working with Kelly on several occasions and banging with his training group. If anyone out there is still not convinced, he is as real as they get and knows whereof he speaks.

Stay safe,

mike j
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