Has anyone glow-pimped a Spyder?

[mm1]

How long does this stuff glow for? I wouldn't want to fill in the gaps on my knife only to have it stop glowing after a few day/weeks.

[J Smith]

Tritium has a half life of 12.5 years.

[MAT888]

According to the Glowinc. site the blue stuff up till 12 hours glow after a 10 minute 1000 lux charge?

I don't know if the half-life is the same with this powder as with the tritium stuff used in watches fe.

[The CoPilot]

If you are worried about longevity, you could always use Radium 226 with a half-life of 1,602 years. However, what it offers in longevity is far outweighed by increased risk of leukemia and other cancers of the bone. :eek: :eek: :eek: Tritium is also radioactive, but at a much lower risk level. Call me nervous, but I just don't like the idea of playing around with radioactive elements that make things glow in the dark. :rolleyes:

[Will V.]

Tritium is safer than radium, just don't break open a tritium vial and inhale the contents. ;-)

Luminova-based glow paint is entirely non-radioactive.

[J Smith]

Tritium puts off Beta rays.They will not go through paper or come through the tube they are in.If the tube is broken the Tritium gas rises as it is helium and dispurses in the air.

[WhiteWillie]

I'v seen some online examples of people who added tritium vials to the backspacer of their Militaries. (Enclosed pic was not taken by or of my knife, don't know anymore whose it is.)

I always thought this was a neat feature.

Wouter

Bot that is nice Mr. Blond.

[J Smith]

Bot that is nice Mr. Blond.

SCRebel1957 did the milling work on that spacer for me.
I have tried to email him about another with no luck.

[phil000]

According to the Glowinc. site the blue stuff up till 12 hours glow after a 10 minute 1000 lux charge?

I don't know if the half-life is the same with this powder as with the tritium stuff used in watches fe.

12 hrs?

try 12 minutes.

Very bright for that, then extremely dull for the rest of the time.

I have the glow green v10, and that's supposed to be their top of the line stuff, very strong around the led in my flashlight...and I put in on my native, and tasman and a little on my para.

I also have a thread about this a little while back on Bladeforums...

[Will V.]

The intensity and duration of the glow given off by luminova paint depends a great deal upon manufacturer, application, and the light used to "charge" it. The color also has something to do with it. Red, in particular, doesn't glow as intensely or as long.

[Mr Blonde]

That was mine.
That pic was my avatar for a while.
I would like the to do my green Military like that.
Wonder if STR could do the milling of the back spacer?

Cool, I edited my post to include the source of the knife and pic.

How does the tritium hold up, btw?

Wouter

[dialex]

Cool feature, thanks for sharing.
I've seen on the supplier's site that those glowing powders last about 12 hours. What happens next? Will those simply dim or will they recharge from a source of light? :confused:
Now I wonder if this glowing powder could be incorporated directly into the FRN handles? Just think an orange Rescue with glowing handles. Or a glowing Ladybug attached to your keys :cool:

[Will V.]

Cool feature, thanks for sharing.
I've seen on the supplier's site that those glowing powders last about 12 hours. What happens next? Will those simply dim or will they recharge from a source of light? :confused:
Now I wonder if this glowing powder could be incorporated directly into the FRN handles? Just think an orange Rescue with glowing handles. Or a glowing Ladybug attached to your keys :cool:

They recharge in strong light. A UV LED will make the stuff glow pretty brightly.

I've seen phosphorescent materials integrated into plastic products before, but I have no idea about FRN.

http://www.umccorp.com/luminova.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence

[J Smith]

Cool, I edited my post to include the source of the knife and pic.

How does the tritium hold up, btw?

Wouter

Never had any trouble with it.Washed out the holes with warm water and soap every now and then.

[Bolster]

Cool feature, thanks for sharing.
I've seen on the supplier's site that those glowing powders last about 12 hours. What happens next? Will those simply dim or will they recharge from a source of light? :confused:

Yes, the new glow materials will recharge rather quickly under most light sources; sunlight or under a lamp on your desk will make them really bright. My Glow Inc v10 stuff glows all night long, every night. Will apparently recharge for many a year.

It's pretty easy for a manufacturer to incorporate glow stuff into their designs. Most are going with old technology glow that dims to almost nothing in a few minutes, but the v10 stuff is pretty amazing IMHO. It can't compete with tritium, but it won't wear out as quickly either.

[Skylighter]

Hi Everyone,

First, let me disclose that I work for Glow Inc. Hopefully, I can offer some definitive answers to some of the questions posed. Thanks to all of the posters that mentioned our company. We really appreciate your support.

Michael Cook, that Spyderco glow mod is really nice. It is so rare to see a well done glow mod photographed as nice as that. Would you please consider posting it on http://www.glowforum.com as well?

J Smith, we do not directly require a credit card for those using Paypal, but we do require a verified Paypal account. After getting scammed regularly by non-verified Paypal customers, we felt we did not have a choice.

Malice4you, give the epoxy a try. I think it will work better than the nail polish. Most of our mod customers use the 30 minute epoxy.

Mm1, if you use a medium like epoxy that completely encases the glow particles, then our product should loose 5% glow over 10 years.

Dialex, the 12 hours is how long the product will glow from a full charge without recharge. You can recharge it millions of times. Technically, the V10 will glow 2 weeks without recharge if viewing in complete darkness with dark adjusted eyes.

Everyone else, thanks for taking the time to be part of this thread. Let me know if I can offer any more information.

Danny Clark
Glow Inc.

[Bolster]

Danny, thanks for the explanations and welcome to the forum, please stick around and enjoy yourself.

Regarding PayPal, (forgive my going OT) I am one of those "evil non-verified" account holders...why? The instant you add a credit card, you pay a surcharge on all subsequent transactions, even those for which you merely use your account balance. So, in effect, PayPal uses "verified" as an excuse to double dip: (1) the interest from your account and then (2) an additional credit card surcharge.

The odd thing is, my bank account is tied to PayPal, so PayPal knows exactly what my address is, and PayPal can make a move on my bank account at any time if I were to attempt to defraud. But tying to your bank account doesn't give them the excuse to charge a credit surcharge for all subsequent transactions (including non credit transactions!!!), so they treat us like red-headed step-children and make us sound like fly-by-nights.

Sorry, I just had to step in and defend the honor of us "non verified" account holders. Now back to our nifty thread...

[Will V.]

The odd thing is, my bank account is tied to PayPal, so PayPal knows exactly what my address is, and PayPal can make a move on my bank account at any time if I were to attempt to defraud.

I believe law restricts PayPal from simply "making a move" on your bank account. You must initiate every transaction in which PayPal touches your bank account.

I also hate PayPal's double-dipping, but I gotta play by their dirty rules in order to be in the game. I stick it to them every chance I get, by funding my transactions with a credit card. They don't like that a whole lot, but they have no choice but to pay the credit card fees.

[Bolster]

I believe law restricts PayPal from simply "making a move" on your bank account. You must initiate every transaction in which PayPal touches your bank account.

I believe that in a fraud case, PayPal would be allowed to access the defrauder's bank account, or at least a hold put on the account until the issue was resolved. I could be wrong, but my point is that I am anything but a "fly-by-night" case with a linked bank account, yet PayPal brands me with a scarlet letter because I don't link a CC and allow them to double-dip. My not being "verified" (what a load) has queered many a deal with vendors. I just want vendors to know that we non-verified's are not necessarily scam artists, although PayPal makes it sound that way (for their own benefit).

Anyway, sorry, back to the thread...

Can anybody give me instructions on how to get glow into the nooks and crannies of a Spyder, like the first image in this thread? I can't figure out how that was done, and I want to glow a Spyder or two...

[Will V.]

I believe that in a fraud case, PayPal would be allowed to access the defrauder's bank account, or at least a hold put on the account until the issue was resolved.

Not without a court of law being involved. It's up to a court to decide who is guilty of fraud, and how injured parties are remedied. If PayPal believes a user is engaging in fraud, they can put a hold on the user's *PayPal* account, and contact authorities or file civil action. But PayPal cannot simply reach into a user's bank account and take what it thinks is due, to do so would be in violation of the Electronic Funds Transfer Act.

I apologize for being so off-topic.