So far I own the Dragonfly lightweight with plain edge, a Calypso jr. serrated with micarta handle (luv this knife).
I also bought a Delica lightweight (for a gift) with 50-50 blade so I got to see and handle this knife it's a nice knife but about the same size as my calypso jr. and in my opinion not as well designed plus I like the micarta handle on my Calipso jr a lot it gives it a smooth feel and a little heft.
Now I want to buy a bigger folder. I have handled the Military it seems like a pretty nice knife.I have heard a lot about the Tim Wagner and think this might be the one I'm looking for I've heard it has some heft to it and a solid feel. I do want a strong knife for heavy work and possibly self defense.
Any help would be appreciated.
Edited by - Mark1955 on 7/12/2001 9:07:58 AM
Help choose next spydie!
Voting with the bias of ownership, I recommend the Wegner. (Don't own the Military). The Wegner is very solidly built. Tho advertised primarily as a hunting knife, it has far more utilitarian/tactical potential than that.
The G-10 handles provide an excellent grip. While a liner lock, it has a long ricasso, so that if the lock ever gave way and the blade closed, if one were holding the knife in a normal position, no cutting is going to happen. The underside of the ricasso/tang is going to come down and intersect the index finger with entire width of an unusually thick blade.
I guess it is design, but I can't help but see the Military as primarily or solely a self defense knife. Others, obviously feel much differently about it.
Truth be told, you probably can't go very far wrong with either. Good luck with your choice!
Stare
The G-10 handles provide an excellent grip. While a liner lock, it has a long ricasso, so that if the lock ever gave way and the blade closed, if one were holding the knife in a normal position, no cutting is going to happen. The underside of the ricasso/tang is going to come down and intersect the index finger with entire width of an unusually thick blade.
I guess it is design, but I can't help but see the Military as primarily or solely a self defense knife. Others, obviously feel much differently about it.
Truth be told, you probably can't go very far wrong with either. Good luck with your choice!
Stare
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ftkinney
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i whole heartley agree with the stare. the wegner was my first spyderco and i love it. i just got a serrated military and it is a very good knife i haven't got a chance to use that much (yet). the fit and feel of the wegner is seperb, the wieght is just right: very blaced in your hand i think, for me at least it, is the best all around utity folder i have ever used. maybe get a plain wegner and then the serretied military or a 60/40 and a plain military and you can avoid the painful dission all together. good luck you will enjoy either (or both)
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Mark,
Of the two, I prefer the Military. In fact I recently sold my Wegner, as I found it was just to heavy for daily carry. Although the extra weight might be useful in some situations, you actually spend more time carrying the knife than using it and then the lighter Military has a distinct advantage. I also prefer the blade and ergonomics of the Military. The performance of the flat ground CPM440V blade is exceptional and the large handle allows a number different hand positions, especially with the addition of the finger choil. Interesting to note that Tim Wegner has included a choil on his latest design. Finally the Military also has the adjustable eccentric pivot to allow for lock wear.
Clay
Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.
Of the two, I prefer the Military. In fact I recently sold my Wegner, as I found it was just to heavy for daily carry. Although the extra weight might be useful in some situations, you actually spend more time carrying the knife than using it and then the lighter Military has a distinct advantage. I also prefer the blade and ergonomics of the Military. The performance of the flat ground CPM440V blade is exceptional and the large handle allows a number different hand positions, especially with the addition of the finger choil. Interesting to note that Tim Wegner has included a choil on his latest design. Finally the Military also has the adjustable eccentric pivot to allow for lock wear.
Clay
Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.
Clay,
I was leaning on purchasing the Wegner but you've got me leaning towards the Military.
I like a knife that has the finger and thumb choils thats probably why I own the Dragonfly and Calypso Jr.I also prefer a flat ground blade (I'm not sure if the Wegner is flat or hollow ground).
Also one of the reasons this choice is difficult is that there are no spidie dealers within 70 miles of my house.I recently went to the closest dealer but he didn't have any Wegners in stock.
I like the looks of the Wegner.
Can't afford both!!!!
I was leaning on purchasing the Wegner but you've got me leaning towards the Military.
I like a knife that has the finger and thumb choils thats probably why I own the Dragonfly and Calypso Jr.I also prefer a flat ground blade (I'm not sure if the Wegner is flat or hollow ground).
Also one of the reasons this choice is difficult is that there are no spidie dealers within 70 miles of my house.I recently went to the closest dealer but he didn't have any Wegners in stock.
I like the looks of the Wegner.
Can't afford both!!!!
Mark,
One of the cadidates would be CHINOOK. Very sturdy, presumably the strongest lockback in the world (MBC standard) - very important since you want 'a strong knife for heavy work and possibly SELF DEFENSE'. I own both, CHINOOK and WEGNER. As far as Wegner is concerned, I agree completely with The Stare and ftkinney. You cannot fail with Wegner.
Regards,
Franco
One of the cadidates would be CHINOOK. Very sturdy, presumably the strongest lockback in the world (MBC standard) - very important since you want 'a strong knife for heavy work and possibly SELF DEFENSE'. I own both, CHINOOK and WEGNER. As far as Wegner is concerned, I agree completely with The Stare and ftkinney. You cannot fail with Wegner.
Regards,
Franco
If you want "heft and a solid feel" sounds like a Chinook is just what your looking for. This is one "hard use knife". More so than any knife that a certain company that uses that in their advertising are. The Chinook is extremely impressive and it's a heck of a hand full. Makes my Military seem feather light. Wait, the Military is feather light! Yet another great design. I think any knife in Spyderco's MBC line will satisfy your need.
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For sale is my collection of 32 Spyderco Collectors knives, all engraved with collector number 177 PLUS an autographed copy of "The Spyderco Story" and the club issued Triangle Sharpmaker. As a bonus the unusual Jot Singh Khalsa is included (not a club issue) for a total of 33 knives.
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