I've heard a lot of posts about how H-1 changed their lives and how H-1 is THE revolution in the world of knife....
Tell me: Do you see much rust on blades?
I used knife for longer than I can remember and the only rust I've seen are on knives my grand-father tossed away in a tool box more than 40 years ago.
I saw some on a S30V Mili blade, but they went away.
I take basic care of my knives (Wash after use with food, at the end of the day is major outdoor use,...)
So, Do you really need it?
Simon
BTW' This is not a bashing thread
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Nope. Not at all. I cut dry cardboard indoors, unless the roof leaks(a lot) I don't really have to worry about rust on my knives. If I worked outside, I might have issues due to the humidity.
But it's kinda cool to know my knife is rust proof. :cool:
:spyder: Scott :spyder:
"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."
-Sir Winston Churchill-
After several months of use at work, my byrd raven, with steel similar to 440C showed numerous rust spots under and on top of the black coating. My new atlantic salt in H-1 requires less maintenance. I work around salt water and it is pretty harsh on most metals, including stainless steel.
While I never had any major problems with blades rusting, I have had several of my S30V knives rust during 'normal' use. This has included rust from sweat during IWB carry and rust due to forgetting to clean them after food prep. Since then, I have been more careful about cleaning them after such use.
The beauty of the H-1 steel comes from the ability to use it and not have to worry at all about the possibility of rust. For example, I have used my Atlantic Salt for general cutting and food prep while backpacking. Often it is not convenient to clean my hands, let alone my knife, during a busy day on the move. After using the knife I would simply wipe of the blade and not worry about cleaning it completely with soap & water.
Is H-1 necessary...no. But there are times when a carefree H-1 blade is really handy.
Interesting question :) There are times when having an H-1 type blade would be handy. I normally don't use my folders in damp environments for extended lengths of time, but the times where I do get a bit "sloppy" is when I'm doing yardwork and using some of my fixed blades. I have a couple that were test blades (01 and 1095) that I just stuck some handles on, and my wife and I use them to dig out dandelions, etc in the yard. Funny thing about that, is that I've probably forgotten about them more times than I care to mention and left them out overnite. My wife is especially notorious for this (though she doesn't do that with my/her Meadowlark :) ) 01 rusts like crazy..... Interestingly, I don't do that with my folders - use 'em, pocket 'em, run them under the tap when I'm done and dry them off. Might be an interesting experiment, though :) Hmmmm....now you've got me thinking about what I should buy next :)
While I don't have one yet, I can see a use for one of the Salts for my job and lifestyle. I don't always use my knife at work, but it does see use and is sometimes put away "wet".I am currently stationed on the water rescue unit as well, so I see time on the river and on the Bay. It would seem like a good fit. I also dabble in seakayaking and am a guide during the summer season. I have a Gerber Shorty on my PFD that is well rusted, eventhough it gets rinsed. The reality is I don't give it much thought as it's part of my kit that doesn't get special attention. I figure a Salt will spend most of its days on my PFD where it "might" get special attention, or not. I think it will be well-suited to this environment.
I wear my Tasman Salt in the pocket of my swim trunks... With 4 kids, I spend a lot of times in the pool. It is cool to be able to swim with a knife! :D
I do get some... "Hey!!! You forgot to take the knife out of your pocket!!!" To which I just reply... "Don't worry..."
Now, the bigger question is, just what do I need to cut in the pool? An evil pool raft, that is keeping me from the surface? Well you never know... :p
I don't think that H-1 is necessary for everyone or for all situations. Although, I'm thinking about getting a Pacific Salt for my best friend, he has a bad habit of letting his S30V Native find its way into the washing machine. He's got some pretty good rust spots on the blade as a result of that. For my forgetful friend, a low maintenance rust-proof knife is almost a necessity. :D
I don't think the H1 is a necessity but if you spend a lot of time around salt water it doesn't require the same care as other steels. I happened to have been in Galveston late last year for a biker rally and had taken an S30v :spyder: with me (I didn't own any H1 knives at the time though I now have 3!) and I was amazed at the damage the salt water air can do to metal, especially chrome, in a very short time. The knife picked up a few small rust spots but they were easilly and quickly removed. I wished I'd had a salt with me instead but it wasn't a must have for my short stay. The chrome, OTOH, was a major pain in the arse keeping clean and rust free.
markg wrote:
Now, the bigger question is, just what do I need to cut in the pool? An evil pool raft, that is keeping me from the surface? Well you never know... :p
Dane Cook? Please tell me you are quoting Dane Cook?!? :D
Back on topic. Great question, and like all great questions (except the yes/no variety) the answer depends. For some people, a steel like H-1 is a necessity. For me, it is a great addition to a collection of knives, the good majority of which, get used. I like being able to rely on my Tasman when I am not able to predict where I'll be, or what type of cutting I'll need to do. So for me, yes, I do need H-1. Most people don't, but Spyderco has a reputation for making knives that serve a small group.
Hmm, let's put it this way... I love my tasman salt for yardwork, I wish I'd bought it earlier, but I think for everyday H1 isn't the best set of compromises for me - I'd rather have one of the more mainstream steels in the Spyderco lineup. But I can easily imagine for a lot of people it would make a great EDC - I know a guy who carries a H1 knife every day, I think it's the only folder he owns, and he seems delighted with it.
I really like H1. I sometimes forget to clean and dry my knives after using them in wet conditions. A normal knife would get som spotty rust on it but the H1 will be fine
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Salt is my very first Spyderco knife. I have a very bad habit ---Cleaning/wiping my knives, table, laptop, chair...etc. everyday before I take shower :p ... So I think you know why I chose Salt as my first Spydie :D .
I spend a lot of time at the beach in the summer, so a little something, something form the Salt Series for beach carry. I have a Salt 1 & Pacific Salt for that purpose.
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gordonk wrote:Interesting question :) There are times when having an H-1 type blade would be handy. I normally don't use my folders in damp environments for extended lengths of time, but the times where I do get a bit "sloppy" is when I'm doing yardwork and using some of my fixed blades. I have a couple that were test blades (01 and 1095) that I just stuck some handles on, and my wife and I use them to dig out dandelions, etc in the yard. Funny thing about that, is that I've probably forgotten about them more times than I care to mention and left them out overnite. My wife is especially notorious for this (though she doesn't do that with my/her Meadowlark :) ) 01 rusts like crazy..... Interestingly, I don't do that with my folders - use 'em, pocket 'em, run them under the tap when I'm done and dry them off. Might be an interesting experiment, though :) Hmmmm....now you've got me thinking about what I should buy next :)
- gord
I knew you were looking to buy some :spyder: . Glad to be of help :D
Simon
"Everyday above the ground and vertical is a good day".
-Sir A. Hopkins in "The world's Fastest Indian"
"If it hurts, it means you're not dead..."
-Kayakist Marie-Pier Cote
flipe8 wrote: I have a Gerber Shorty on my PFD that is well rusted, eventhough it gets rinsed. The reality is I don't give it much thought as it's part of my kit that doesn't get special attention. I figure a Salt will spend most of its days on my PFD where it "might" get special attention, or not. I think it will be well-suited to this environment.
The Snap-it 2 should hav been made of H-1.
I think more than 75% of them will be attached to PFD's!
Simon
"Everyday above the ground and vertical is a good day".
-Sir A. Hopkins in "The world's Fastest Indian"
"If it hurts, it means you're not dead..."
-Kayakist Marie-Pier Cote
txtroublemaker wrote:Although, I'm thinking about getting a Pacific Salt for my best friend, he has a bad habit of letting his S30V Native find its way into the washing machine. He's got some pretty good rust spots on the blade as a result of that.
Me too, I find people around me who carry blades to be totally unrespectful of them.
I don't pamper my knives, but at least I respect them. In the washer... :rolleyes:
Simon
"Everyday above the ground and vertical is a good day".
-Sir A. Hopkins in "The world's Fastest Indian"
"If it hurts, it means you're not dead..."
-Kayakist Marie-Pier Cote
