Slip Joint
Slip Joint
I'm new here, so please don't hurt me. I heard something about a Spyderco slip-joint. I heard it is supposed to be something like the Navigator in profile. Cool, for me and my ilk. Is there any chance of it being flat ground as well? Please, oh please, it would make me and my kind very happy!
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Clay Kesting
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G'day Sheeple,
Welcome to the forum. Don't worry, nobody's going to hurt you <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>. I've tied up the Kelpies (what we call sheep dogs down here) and I'm so old I don't have any teeth left so my bite isn't any worse than my bark <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.
Sal seems to be AWOL at the moment so you may have to wait until he returns for more info on the slip-joint. It does seem to be based on the Navigator, as you say, and I think it will have a pearl inlay. IIRC somebody here may have seen the prototype. Anybody?
Clay
Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.
Edited by - Clay Kesting on 5/17/2001 11:55:56 PM
Welcome to the forum. Don't worry, nobody's going to hurt you <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>. I've tied up the Kelpies (what we call sheep dogs down here) and I'm so old I don't have any teeth left so my bite isn't any worse than my bark <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.
Sal seems to be AWOL at the moment so you may have to wait until he returns for more info on the slip-joint. It does seem to be based on the Navigator, as you say, and I think it will have a pearl inlay. IIRC somebody here may have seen the prototype. Anybody?
Clay
Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.
Edited by - Clay Kesting on 5/17/2001 11:55:56 PM
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Clay Kesting
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Here's what Sal said on Bladeforums: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:<hr height=1 noshade>What would you call a Spyderco slip joint knife? One hand open. 2" blade. Navigator pattern with inlay. <hr height=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2>
Of course this is only the prototype so things may change.
Clay
Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.
Of course this is only the prototype so things may change.
Clay
Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.
What's this new slip going to be called? I got a name suggestion. How's about "Slip Kid" in honor of the most kick*****rock band ever: The Who ?
ARTIST: The Who
TITLE: Slip Kid
I've got my clipboard, text books
Lead me to the station
Yeah, I'm off to the civil war
I've got my kit bag, my heavy boots
I'm runnin' in the rain
Gonna run 'til my feet are raw
Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
I'm a soldier at thirteen
Slip kid, slip kid, realization
There's no easy way to be free
No easy way to be free
It's a hard, hard world
I left my doctor's prescription
Bungalow behind me
I left the door ajar
I got my vacuum flask
Full of hot tea and sugar
Left the keys right in my car
Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
Only half way up the tree
Slip kid, slip kid, I'm a relation
I'm a soldier at sixty-three
No easy way to be free
Slip kid, slip kid
Keep away old man, you won't fool me
Slip kid
You and your history won't rule me
Slip kid
You might have been a fighter, but admit you failed
Slip kid
I'm not affected by your blackmail
You won't blackmail me
{Repeat first verse}
Slip kid, slip kid, slip out of trouble
Slip over here and set me free
Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
You're slidin' down the hill like me
No easy way to be free
No easy way to be free
No easy way to be free
ARTIST: The Who
TITLE: Slip Kid
I've got my clipboard, text books
Lead me to the station
Yeah, I'm off to the civil war
I've got my kit bag, my heavy boots
I'm runnin' in the rain
Gonna run 'til my feet are raw
Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
I'm a soldier at thirteen
Slip kid, slip kid, realization
There's no easy way to be free
No easy way to be free
It's a hard, hard world
I left my doctor's prescription
Bungalow behind me
I left the door ajar
I got my vacuum flask
Full of hot tea and sugar
Left the keys right in my car
Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
Only half way up the tree
Slip kid, slip kid, I'm a relation
I'm a soldier at sixty-three
No easy way to be free
Slip kid, slip kid
Keep away old man, you won't fool me
Slip kid
You and your history won't rule me
Slip kid
You might have been a fighter, but admit you failed
Slip kid
I'm not affected by your blackmail
You won't blackmail me
{Repeat first verse}
Slip kid, slip kid, slip out of trouble
Slip over here and set me free
Slip kid, slip kid, second generation
You're slidin' down the hill like me
No easy way to be free
No easy way to be free
No easy way to be free
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Frank Black
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Frank Black
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"I got Happy Jack nice and sharpened-up, see?
Now I'm shavin' me arms like a bloomin' monkey.
Knifeknuts like the Jack because it's tight, tight, tight.
It hangs out in our pockets and it's light, light, light, light, LI-IIGHT!"
<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Edited by - Frank Black on 5/20/2001 1:36:35 PM
Now I'm shavin' me arms like a bloomin' monkey.
Knifeknuts like the Jack because it's tight, tight, tight.
It hangs out in our pockets and it's light, light, light, light, LI-IIGHT!"
<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Edited by - Frank Black on 5/20/2001 1:36:35 PM
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Joyce Laituri
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Hi Sheeple,
Welcome to the Spyderco forum!
Clay is right, but Sal is actually AWL. He was granted permission to leave the office on business, LOL.
The slip-joint is still in a concept stage, meaning it's at least 6 months from production. A few things are up in the air. The concept model we have in-house is a hollow-ground version but.. you never know. Which/what inlays have not been decided yet either. The concept model had a polished mirror inlay. That's out.
Like the name idea.....anyone have any others? It will probably be an important piece in the international market where some areas of the world have restrictions on lock backs. Any good 'world-wide' names out there?
I'll post an slip-joint update as info. comes out.
Joyce
Welcome to the Spyderco forum!
Clay is right, but Sal is actually AWL. He was granted permission to leave the office on business, LOL.
The slip-joint is still in a concept stage, meaning it's at least 6 months from production. A few things are up in the air. The concept model we have in-house is a hollow-ground version but.. you never know. Which/what inlays have not been decided yet either. The concept model had a polished mirror inlay. That's out.
Like the name idea.....anyone have any others? It will probably be an important piece in the international market where some areas of the world have restrictions on lock backs. Any good 'world-wide' names out there?
I'll post an slip-joint update as info. comes out.
Joyce
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Frank Black
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On the subject of names, as much as I love the Who, I love salticids even more.
Salticids are jumping spiders. Since this slip-joint is a travelin' knife, why not name it after a travelin' kind of spider?
From:
http://spiders.arizona.edu/salticidae/s ... .html#TOC1
An Introduction to the Jumping Spiders
Jumping spiders (Salticidae) are easily distinguished from other spiders by their four big eyes on the face and four smaller eyes on top of the head. Around the world there are probably more than 5000 species of jumping spiders.
Jumping spiders are charming spiders that look up and watch you. Their excellent vision allows them to hunt much as do cats, spotting prey from long distances, creeping up then pouncing using their jumping ability. Although a jumping spider can jump more than fifty times its body length, none of its legs has enlarged muscles. The power for jumping probably comes from a quick contraction of muscles in the front part of the body increasing the blood pressure, which causes the legs to extend rapidly much as in the toy frogs that hop when you squeeze a bulb.
Their vision also allows communications by visual means, such as the elaborate courtship dances that males perform.
Salticids are perhaps as old and diverse as mammals, though not many humans know their world. Many salticids are colorful, they take on a variety of body forms, and some have disguises, looking like ants and other organisms. The bright colors and elaborate forms of some jumping spider species are involved in courtship.
Salticids are jumping spiders. Since this slip-joint is a travelin' knife, why not name it after a travelin' kind of spider?
From:
http://spiders.arizona.edu/salticidae/s ... .html#TOC1
An Introduction to the Jumping Spiders
Jumping spiders (Salticidae) are easily distinguished from other spiders by their four big eyes on the face and four smaller eyes on top of the head. Around the world there are probably more than 5000 species of jumping spiders.
Jumping spiders are charming spiders that look up and watch you. Their excellent vision allows them to hunt much as do cats, spotting prey from long distances, creeping up then pouncing using their jumping ability. Although a jumping spider can jump more than fifty times its body length, none of its legs has enlarged muscles. The power for jumping probably comes from a quick contraction of muscles in the front part of the body increasing the blood pressure, which causes the legs to extend rapidly much as in the toy frogs that hop when you squeeze a bulb.
Their vision also allows communications by visual means, such as the elaborate courtship dances that males perform.
Salticids are perhaps as old and diverse as mammals, though not many humans know their world. Many salticids are colorful, they take on a variety of body forms, and some have disguises, looking like ants and other organisms. The bright colors and elaborate forms of some jumping spider species are involved in courtship.
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Frank Black
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Reading up on some more spider lore, I came across a species that I have never heard of before: the Social Spider.
My latest and greatest nomination for this new slip-joint is the:
SPYDERCO SOCIAL
in honor of our fellow social arachnids (arachnoids?).
Check it out, these social spiders sound a lot like the forumites here:
Spider Solidarity Forever
Social spiders create the communes of the arachnid world
By Laura Helmuth
Most spiders have beastly social skills. They're aggressive, territorial loners that would just as soon eat a sibling as look at one. Of the 35,000-odd spider species that have been described, however, a few dozen flout tradition. These social spiders live in groups. They cooperate while hunting and building their communal homes. They even care for their own—and sometimes each other's—young, whereas typical spiders lay their eggs and creep away.
Nineteenth-century biologists, including Charles Darwin when he voyaged to South America, discovered a few spider species that gathered in huge colonies. In the past 20 years, researchers have found more examples of gregarious spiders. Now, scientists are exploring the social webs that bind together these infamous individualists.
By looking at the social world from a spider's-eye view, biologists are gaining insights into the evolution of sociality, the costs and benefits of group living, and the ways that creatures relate to their kin.
Entomologists have long studied the social worlds of a variety of insects—ants, bees, and termites—that live in large, cooperative networks. Like the six-legged social species, many cooperating spiders hunt together and share food.
Although arachnid societies bear a superficial resemblance to these insect communities, they operate by markedly different reproductive rules. In insect groups, workers are sterile and only the queen lays eggs, whereas all spiders in a colony are able to reproduce.
In that regard, social spider species interact more like a herd of wildebeests than like a hive of bees, says George W. Uetz of the University of Cincinnati.
Deborah R. Smith of the University of Kansas at Lawrence compares social spiders to a pride of lions. "It's always interesting to see an organism one usually thinks of as asocial, predatory, and cannibalistic, forming large cooperative societies," says Smith.
The most social of the social spiders live in multigenerational colonies in the rain forests of South America. Anelosimus eximius, one of the best studied of these cooperative species, builds a hammock-shaped web suspended from the lush vegetation by long threads. Their mahogany bodies are about the size of pencil erasers. They band together in colonies of hundreds to tens of thousands of individuals, spinning their collective web above rivers and roads and where light filters in through the tree canopy.
Several generations of spiders live together in the community, and with constant repairs, the meter-long nest can last several years. Adult spiders care for the young, but they don't distinguish between their own progeny and those of others. They guard eggs against predators, move egg sacks to the web areas with the most comfortable temperatures, and feed hatchlings.
When a colony grows too large, the nest starts to break up of its own weight, Smith says. The spiders split into two or three groups, or the young adult females crawl away on bridges of silk to spawn their own colonies.
Group living has its benefits, says Leticia Avilés of the University of Arizona in Tucson, who studies cooperative spiders in Ecuador. Working together, social spiders can capture prey as large as 10 times their size, whereas an individual spider is lucky to bag a bug twice as big as itself.
Cooperative spiders also save on the cost of silk. Frequent tropical rains pelt the sheetlike webs. By working together, the cooperative spiders conserve on energy and protein as they repair the damage from a web-ripping storm.
Social spiders have evolved independently in Africa, the Middle East, the Americas, and Australia. The repeated appearance of social behavior has puzzled spider experts. "We're all trying to figure that out," says Evans. "And we all disagree."It may be that communal living offers some spiders their only chance in a harsh world. When leaving a nest is too dangerous, rebuilding a web each day is too demanding, or finding mates is too difficult, sociality can win out over solitude.
Living together and sharing resources "may not be a good option," Evans says, but in certain circumstances, "it's the best of all available options
excerpted from:
The Weekly Newsmagazine of Science
Volume 155, Number 19 (May 8, 1999)
http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/5_8_99/bob2.htm
My latest and greatest nomination for this new slip-joint is the:
SPYDERCO SOCIAL
in honor of our fellow social arachnids (arachnoids?).
Check it out, these social spiders sound a lot like the forumites here:
Spider Solidarity Forever
Social spiders create the communes of the arachnid world
By Laura Helmuth
Most spiders have beastly social skills. They're aggressive, territorial loners that would just as soon eat a sibling as look at one. Of the 35,000-odd spider species that have been described, however, a few dozen flout tradition. These social spiders live in groups. They cooperate while hunting and building their communal homes. They even care for their own—and sometimes each other's—young, whereas typical spiders lay their eggs and creep away.
Nineteenth-century biologists, including Charles Darwin when he voyaged to South America, discovered a few spider species that gathered in huge colonies. In the past 20 years, researchers have found more examples of gregarious spiders. Now, scientists are exploring the social webs that bind together these infamous individualists.
By looking at the social world from a spider's-eye view, biologists are gaining insights into the evolution of sociality, the costs and benefits of group living, and the ways that creatures relate to their kin.
Entomologists have long studied the social worlds of a variety of insects—ants, bees, and termites—that live in large, cooperative networks. Like the six-legged social species, many cooperating spiders hunt together and share food.
Although arachnid societies bear a superficial resemblance to these insect communities, they operate by markedly different reproductive rules. In insect groups, workers are sterile and only the queen lays eggs, whereas all spiders in a colony are able to reproduce.
In that regard, social spider species interact more like a herd of wildebeests than like a hive of bees, says George W. Uetz of the University of Cincinnati.
Deborah R. Smith of the University of Kansas at Lawrence compares social spiders to a pride of lions. "It's always interesting to see an organism one usually thinks of as asocial, predatory, and cannibalistic, forming large cooperative societies," says Smith.
The most social of the social spiders live in multigenerational colonies in the rain forests of South America. Anelosimus eximius, one of the best studied of these cooperative species, builds a hammock-shaped web suspended from the lush vegetation by long threads. Their mahogany bodies are about the size of pencil erasers. They band together in colonies of hundreds to tens of thousands of individuals, spinning their collective web above rivers and roads and where light filters in through the tree canopy.
Several generations of spiders live together in the community, and with constant repairs, the meter-long nest can last several years. Adult spiders care for the young, but they don't distinguish between their own progeny and those of others. They guard eggs against predators, move egg sacks to the web areas with the most comfortable temperatures, and feed hatchlings.
When a colony grows too large, the nest starts to break up of its own weight, Smith says. The spiders split into two or three groups, or the young adult females crawl away on bridges of silk to spawn their own colonies.
Group living has its benefits, says Leticia Avilés of the University of Arizona in Tucson, who studies cooperative spiders in Ecuador. Working together, social spiders can capture prey as large as 10 times their size, whereas an individual spider is lucky to bag a bug twice as big as itself.
Cooperative spiders also save on the cost of silk. Frequent tropical rains pelt the sheetlike webs. By working together, the cooperative spiders conserve on energy and protein as they repair the damage from a web-ripping storm.
Social spiders have evolved independently in Africa, the Middle East, the Americas, and Australia. The repeated appearance of social behavior has puzzled spider experts. "We're all trying to figure that out," says Evans. "And we all disagree."It may be that communal living offers some spiders their only chance in a harsh world. When leaving a nest is too dangerous, rebuilding a web each day is too demanding, or finding mates is too difficult, sociality can win out over solitude.
Living together and sharing resources "may not be a good option," Evans says, but in certain circumstances, "it's the best of all available options
excerpted from:
The Weekly Newsmagazine of Science
Volume 155, Number 19 (May 8, 1999)
http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/5_8_99/bob2.htm