Random: General Spydie Chat

[Mrj]

Has there been a recent change to the MAP policy, or to how it's enforced?

Several dealers that used to advertise at MAP but would sometimes sell lower through add to cart/user login/make an offer, now no longer appear to allow this.

Rumor has it some dealers are whining about it and invoking Spyderco to slap the dealers that offer discounts hands. Kinda irritating honestly. I assume that’s why wmk codes quit working too.

[Mushroom]

Has there been a recent change to the MAP policy, or to how it's enforced?

Several dealers that used to advertise at MAP but would sometimes sell lower through add to cart/user login/make an offer, now no longer appear to allow this.

Rumor has it some dealers are whining about it and invoking Spyderco to slap the dealers that offer discounts hands. Kinda irritating honestly. I assume that’s why wmk codes quit working too.

That's very irritating. I'd love to say a few words about the whiny dealers but I'd prefer being able to post here in the future.

I'll just say, MAP sucks. It always has, always will.

I would love to see retailers scrutinize every inch of the minimum advertised pricing policy and find clever ways to exploit the gray areas in the policy.

For example - sell me a PM2 at full MAP but then also give me a rebate for the 15% difference between 25% and 40% off MSRP. Whether that's in violation or not, I don't know, but I also have ZERO shame in benefiting from a retailer selling me a knife below the MAP.

[riclaw]

Hi @sal

I received my Mule Team sheath today and want to give some feedback. The team did a wonderful job getting my order mailed quickly. The red and black paper packing material is a nice touch. And I got a separate email thanking me for my purchase. A very classy thing to do, and very Spyderco. THANK YOU!

[TkoK83Spy]

Hi @sal

I received my Mule Team sheath today and want to give some feedback. The team did a wonderful job getting my order mailed quickly. The red and black paper packing material is a nice touch. And I got a separate email thanking me for my purchase. A very classy thing to do, and very Spyderco. THANK YOU!

Nice!! That's pretty cool. A subtle touch that true fans will appreciate!

[CDEP]

Has there been a recent change to the MAP policy, or to how it's enforced?

Several dealers that used to advertise at MAP but would sometimes sell lower through add to cart/user login/make an offer, now no longer appear to allow this.

Rumor has it some dealers are whining about it and invoking Spyderco to slap the dealers that offer discounts hands. Kinda irritating honestly. I assume that’s why wmk codes quit working too.

That's very irritating. I'd love to say a few words about the whiny dealers but I'd prefer being able to post here in the future.

I'll just say, MAP sucks. It always has, always will.

I would love to see retailers scrutinize every inch of the minimum advertised pricing policy and find clever ways to exploit the gray areas in the policy.

For example - sell me a PM2 at full MAP but then also give me a rebate for the 15% difference between 25% and 40% off MSRP. Whether that's in violation or not, I don't know, but I also have ZERO shame in benefiting from a retailer selling me a knife below the MAP.

Agree. And what is really annoying is that, as I understand it, MAP was supposed to *protect* smaller retailers! Instead, they were the ones looking for ways around it, and the big players are the ones whining about enforcing it.

It would seem it might be time for Spyderco to reevaluate the issue.

[sal]

Please take a moment and consider what it might be like on the other side of the fences trying to come up with solutions to all of thee "be fair" rules. Trying to please all of the people all of the time.

We are always open to suggestions, but every one s different and every coin has two sides.

If I may quote Mr. Sherlock Holmes, "Nothing is exactly as it seems".

sal

[Skywalker]

Has there been a recent change to the MAP policy, or to how it's enforced?

Several dealers that used to advertise at MAP but would sometimes sell lower through add to cart/user login/make an offer, now no longer appear to allow this.

Rumor has it some dealers are whining about it and invoking Spyderco to slap the dealers that offer discounts hands. Kinda irritating honestly. I assume that’s why wmk codes quit working too.

Thanks. Frustrating but I guess ultimately not too surprising with all the back and forth about MAP over the last several years.


To Sal's comment, I appreciate how this could be a tricky situation to navigate for all parties involved. As an end-line consumer I guess I would ask for the same thing I aim for in planning at my job - "lead time and stability."

In this case, I was expecting that the next price increase would be at the annual bump in January, and that I had until the end of the year to see how the holiday budget shook out and then pick up another couple SPY27 models by New Years. So, effective pricing changes two months before I was expecting mess with that a little.

Probably still pick up the SPY27 Endela but will have to wait and see about any others.

Been carrying K390 Endelas and SPY27 Sage 5 and UKPK a lot recently and need to get some SPY27 in the Endela now.