Where Artificial Intelligence Is Right Now

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Naperville, Ankerson, Doc and all:
Here is a review of AI that focuses on it's limits. This even helps human warehouse employees and bricklayets feel confident that humans will be needed:

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Robotics and AI are unlikely to completely replace humans due to the irreplaceable value of human intuition, creativity, emotional intelligence, and adaptability in complex, unpredictable situations. While automation will continue to transform industries and handle repetitive tasks, humans will remain essential for tasks requiring nuanced judgment, empathy, innovative thinking, and the management of complex human interactions. Instead of complete replacement, the future will likely see humans and machines working collaboratively, with AI enhancing human capabilities and creating new roles for people who can leverage these tools effectively.

Why Humans Will Remain Essential

Emotional Intelligence and Empathy:
Humans can understand and respond to complex human emotions and nuanced situations in ways that AI cannot replicate. This is crucial in fields like healthcare, customer service, and leadership.
Creativity and Innovation:
While AI can process and remix existing data, it cannot generate truly novel concepts or dream up new ideas from scratch the way humans can.

Intuition and Contextual Understanding:
The human brain excels at understanding context, reading between the lines, and making intuitive leaps based on limited information, a skill that current AI systems cannot fully reproduce.
Adaptability and Dexterity:
Robots struggle with the dexterity and adaptability needed for complex, physical tasks in unpredictable environments, such as construction or intricate repair work.

Skills like negotiation, adaptability, and teamwork are developed through experience and are essential for effective human collaboration, something machines currently lack.

The Future is Collaboration (Augmented Intelligence)
Humans with AI:
Rather than robots replacing humans, the future will involve "humans with AI," where humans leverage AI as a tool to enhance their own productivity and capabilities.
Augmented Intelligence:
This concept involves AI providing decision support by offering information, allowing humans to make more informed and context-aware decisions.

The Limits of Automation
Programmed Systems:
Robots and AI systems are programmed and do not think independently or possess the same level of complexity as the human brain.

Complexity of the Real World:

The real world contains "unknown unknowns" and complexities that AI cannot yet fully grasp or navigate, requiring human intervention and decision-making. "

It turns out Frank Herbert and Gene Roddenberry were right on that.
Even James Cameron had humans beat Sky Net in the end.

[Naperville]

https://www.ai.gov/

https://gemini.google.com/app

OpenAI being sued
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/ ... rcna226147

[James Y]

Jim

[Naperville]

Jim

Maybe that is what I need, an AI girlfriend to keep me from getting bored and fleeced out of every cent!

[akapennypincher]

Technology is wonderful until it fails, when it fairs, unless you have ability to Improvise, Adapt, and last Overcome, you will find out why Technology is not so wonderful.

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Jim

Maybe that is what I need, an AI girlfriend to keep me from getting bored and fleeced out of every cent!

Beware. What if it gets an error in programming and becomes a monster computer?

[Naperville]

Jim

Maybe that is what I need, an AI girlfriend to keep me from getting bored and fleeced out of every cent!

Beware. What if it gets an error in programming and becomes a monster computer?

I think we are moving in that direction and there is no stopping it. Every country is vying for AI supremacy.

Simple LLM's are what they call the systems that we have now in AI and they are not that capable. It will not be long and we will have true sentient thinking machines, then what?

[James Y]

At first glance, this might not seem like it has anything to do with AI, but it really does. That lady, while extremely obsessive-compulsive, foresaw something like what is happening now, and has probably been happening since long before AI entered the lexicon of the general public. Whenever technology is newly revealed to the public, it's already crude and obsolete in terms of what is already existing.

Jim

[Naperville]

At first glance, this might not seem like it has anything to do with AI, but it really does. That lady, while extremely obsessive-compulsive, foresaw something like what is happening now, and has probably been happening since long before AI entered the lexicon of the general public. Whenever technology is newly revealed to the public, it's already crude and obsolete in terms of what is already existing.

Jim

She did a good deed. The Internet Archive is great and I have donated to them a few times.

[James Y]

So if this is available to the general public now, you can be certain there are WAY more advanced technologies that can be used to doctor any video footage, and add, remove, or change people and what they said or did, or didn't say or do. So video 'proof' will no longer be proof of anything. And who knows how advanced this type of AI technology has been, and for how long.

Jim

[Naperville]

DOOM?

October 6th and I missed the initial posting. Artificial intelligence is in huge trouble and nobody is talking about it. I think the huge AI bubble is going to pop.

Maybe Maybe Maybe.... Maybe AI will take off and customers will pay for everything that the developers of AI systems and AI infrastructure needs. Maybe building AI data centers will become cheaper somehow. Maybe electricity to power AI data centers will become available somehow.

They are just realizing they do not have the power or income for the AI data centers they are building. The other day Musk said to use his batteries to store power for AI data centers.

I think this is all going to crater. The issues are too large. Then the following information hit the wires from MORNINGSTAR.


Harris "Kuppy" Kupperman, the founder of the hedge fund Praetorian Capital, whose back-of-the-envelope math from this summer was that companies need to generate $480 billion of revenue just to meet current levels of data-center spending and upwards of $1 trillion to meet next year's spending.

That take led him down a road to talking with data-center insiders - designers, owners, lenders - and convinced him that he made a crucial mistake.

It turns out he made a mathematical error, and not in favor of the hyperscalers. He had assumed a 10-year depreciation schedule. "Based on my conversations over the past month, the physical datacenters last for three to ten years, at most," he says in a new blog post. "Changes to cooling systems, chip and racking designs, power systems, and even overall layouts, mean that the buildings themselves are likely depreciating quite rapidly as well. Then when you consider that new GPU iterations, which seem to come out every year or two, effectively obsolete prior models, you realize that I should have been using a much faster depreciation curve across the whole capitalized structure."

"As I wasn't educated on the intricacies of a datacenter, I wasn't bearish enough on the economics of an AI datacenter," he added.

On his numbers, the industry spends about $30 billion a month and receives over $1 billion in revenue. "The mismatch is astonishing, and this ignores that in 2026, hundreds of billions of additional datacenters will get built, all needing additional revenue to justify their existence," says Kupperman.

Like others, he sees risks far beyond just the investors and lenders to the industry. He estimates the actual AI buildout represents about 1.5% of GDP this year, and with multiplier effects, could reach 2% in total. When combined with the wealth effect, it's not hard to imagine that AI is responsible for all of economic growth this year, possibly even more than that if you think other parts of the economy are in recession.

"Railroads and AI are actually quite similar, they're absolutely massive capital projects, with huge financial implications for investors," says Kupperman. "Much like with railroads, if the funding for AI slows, the buildout slows. If the buildout stops, the shares of the AI beneficiaries get sold off, and the wealth effect goes in reverse. Consumption growth goes negative, and you get a financial panic that reverberates through the entire economy in a feedback loop. Except unlike railroad tracks and locomotives, which have long useful lives, AI data centers go obsolete almost immediately-they're complete write-offs. The capital destruction will be massive," he says.

FROM:
https://www.morningstar.com/news/market ... essimistic

[Naperville]

An AI data center acts as one huge computer, and you do not upgrade or update it, you throw everything out every 2 to 3 years.

THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE SAYING

[Naperville]

Job losses from AI.


Nestle jumps 8% after consumer goods giant announces plans to slash 16,000 jobs
Published Thu, Oct 16 20252:56 AM EDT

Nestle said Thursday it will cut 16,000 jobs as the firm's new CEO Philipp Navratil looks to accelerate a turnaround at the consumer goods giant.

In a bid to improve operational efficiency, the firm said it will cut 12,000 white-collar jobs and a further 4,000 roles will be reduced over the next two years.
...

"We are transforming how we work," Navratil wrote in a LinkedIn post summarizing the company's earnings report. "We are evolving and will simplify our organization and automate our processes."

It's unclear how Nestle plans to incorporate more automation into its corporate offices. Other companies, primarily in the tech sector, have slashed jobs as they turn to artificial intelligence to replace human labor. So far this year, more than 17,000 job losses have been specifically tied to A.I., according to a recent report from Challenger, Gray & Christmas.

Nestle did not immediately respond to a request for comment from CNBC.

FROM:
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/16/nestle- ... -cuts.html

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Jim Doc Ankerson Naperville and all.
I had an AI Nightmare dream.
In the dream AI warriors with MagnaCut and H2 steel bodies were coming to round all of us humans up to make us into electro chemical batteries to replace gasoline.

[SpyderEdgeForever]

I want you all to please read this article by Robert Freitas the nanotechnology expert about the future of computers.
Do not listen to the naysayers like famous chemist Phillip Ball and Richard Jones who falsely claim molecular mechanical nano machines cannot happen because things at the atom and molecule level are too unstable. That is their core failed argument, with all due respect to them.

If that were true biological nature would not exist. Ribosomes and enzymes are mechanical nano robots.
Freitas, Eric Drexler, Ralph Merkle and others refuted all these arguments with chemistry data.

I see proofs for nanotechnology robots, electro gravity, magnetic gravity, zero point energy, quantum and mechanical Nano computers, and Super Search Engine Artificial Intelligence.


Where I am skeptical:

I do not believe human level or super human level or mammal level or higher animal level intelligence can be programmed or created by humans.

I believe we can create Insect level and bacteria level intelligence, and pre programmed walking search engines.

Nothing like Star Trek Data or Star Wars C3PO or R2D2.

So your AI mate could be pre programmed to say "i love you honey" and even serve you a cup of tea and make you a sandwich. And if made of Nano Silicone flesh and batteries he or she may feel warm and be programmed to hug you. But there will never be real love or spontaneous emotions from it.

An AI cop or soldier would be too dangerous, lacking critical human thinking. They could register an innocent person as a danger and eliminate them.

For instance, imagine an AI customer service robot
In say a Home Depot. The customer hands it say a defective hammer or shovel and if it's software reasons the wrong way, it reacts as if the customer is a threat and pummels them with steel strong hands. Stuff like that.

But Swarm Intelligences. Read what Freitas calls Nano Creatures in the article.

Here:

https://www.rfreitas.com/Nano/TheFuture ... ch1996.htm


I am also skeptical of Human and Animal Teleportation like on Star Trek. I believe if a man or woman were to have the atoms broken down and reassembled, the person would die. I believe it can be done with Non Living objects like cars and knives and food, if we have the information storage, energy, and matter manipulators.

I would be the guy who wants to take a shuttle craft, not have my atoms scrambled.

Maybe IF we can somehow learn to curve or bend space itself like Einstein said can be done, we could make a kind of teleporter where our body goes from Point A to Point B through a wormhole portal, but is not broken down.

[Naperville]

Pew Research article on Data Centers and their energy consumption, which has and will continue to cause increases in homeowners energy bills.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... e-ai-boom/

[Naperville]

I want you all to please read this article by Robert Freitas the nanotechnology expert about the future of computers.
Do not listen to the naysayers like famous chemist Phillip Ball and Richard Jones who falsely claim molecular mechanical nano machines cannot happen because things at the atom and molecule level are too unstable. That is their core failed argument, with all due respect to them.

If that were true biological nature would not exist. Ribosomes and enzymes are mechanical nano robots.
Freitas, Eric Drexler, Ralph Merkle and others refuted all these arguments with chemistry data.

I see proofs for nanotechnology robots, electro gravity, magnetic gravity, zero point energy, quantum and mechanical Nano computers, and Super Search Engine Artificial Intelligence.


Where I am skeptical:

I do not believe human level or super human level or mammal level or higher animal level intelligence can be programmed or created by humans.

I believe we can create Insect level and bacteria level intelligence, and pre programmed walking search engines.

Nothing like Star Trek Data or Star Wars C3PO or R2D2.

So your AI mate could be pre programmed to say "i love you honey" and even serve you a cup of tea and make you a sandwich. And if made of Nano Silicone flesh and batteries he or she may feel warm and be programmed to hug you. But there will never be real love or spontaneous emotions from it.

An AI cop or soldier would be too dangerous, lacking critical human thinking. They could register an innocent person as a danger and eliminate them.

For instance, imagine an AI customer service robot
In say a Home Depot. The customer hands it say a defective hammer or shovel and if it's software reasons the wrong way, it reacts as if the customer is a threat and pummels them with steel strong hands. Stuff like that.

But Swarm Intelligences. Read what Freitas calls Nano Creatures in the article.

Here:

https://www.rfreitas.com/Nano/TheFuture ... ch1996.htm


I am also skeptical of Human and Animal Teleportation like on Star Trek. I believe if a man or woman were to have the atoms broken down and reassembled, the person would die. I believe it can be done with Non Living objects like cars and knives and food, if we have the information storage, energy, and matter manipulators.

I would be the guy who wants to take a shuttle craft, not have my atoms scrambled.

Maybe IF we can somehow learn to curve or bend space itself like Einstein said can be done, we could make a kind of teleporter where our body goes from Point A to Point B through a wormhole portal, but is not broken down.

AI mate?

AI cop or soldier?

Just say NO to robots on your property and in your life!

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Will there be a war between humans and robots?