Cruwear Temperance Sprint Run. Is a Home Run IMO!!!

[JD Spydo]

Sorry I haven't been here much lately. But taking care of two sick/disabled friends has been a big, time consuming project needless to say.
But I want to take some time to sound off for the newest Cruwear Temperance model ( Sprint Run). Both the SE & The PE are truly a literal dream come true for most all of my outdoor needs ( kitchen needs as well). I'm really loving Cruwear blades more and more each time I use them. The Cruwear Ayoob made a believer out of me. The Sal Glesser designed Temperance is one model that was literally perfect from the get-go in my humble opinion. Also I won't even get rid of my 2004 era VG-10 units even though I've recently had a couple of handsome trade offers for them.

Not saying that I won't ever buy any other outdoor or hunting type fixed blade down the road. But this Cruwear Temperance really fulfills most of my needs. I hope someday to land an extra set for the kitchen. But for now I'm sort of content with the set that I've been fortunate enough to obtain.

I do hope that some of you will now understand why I bragged on that Temperance model as much as I did over the years. It is truly one model that Spyderco got perfect from the start. Oh sure the Cruwear blade is a massive improvement over the original VG-10. But the VG-10 units are still good in their own rite. Thank you Mr. Glesser and thank you Spyderco staff for making it happen. Now if I can get an updated full SE Catcherman and an updated PE Catcherman I think I'll have all the outdoor blades I'll ever need for now. What say you all??????

[TheHulk]

To your last sentence, if there's a company that's going to make something cool that people want, its spyderco. A lot of other popular brands that will remain unnamed are like "you guys wanted a fine slicer that's very stainless, so here's this knife with magnacut... with a coated .14 partial serrated scandi spear point.

[Rezimus]

Its wild that many of the top steels even today have been around so long. Obviously it was under a different name (vascowear) and was ingot steel but still cool to see here in 2025 CPM Cruwear holds up to the best out.

[sal]

Hi TheHulk,

Welcome to our forum.

Hey Rezimus,

I had asked crucible about Vascowear and if they could make it. They said they already make it and called it Cruwear. When we ordered the Cruwear from Crucible, we were expecting ingot steel........Crucible (Bless their soul) surprised by powdering it.

Don't know if we'll be able to get more?

Hey JD,

we're making a Temperance display in the store, starting with the wooden knife I carved and showing the different models made over time.

sal

[Spyderwebs]

I have both the Micarta/VG10 and the Cruwear/SE version, and both and superb.

The Moki low profile SE is the slicey-est edge ever. Same as is on the Cruwear Ayoob SE.

The micarta version has almost .500 more edge and nice micarta which is great in its own way. Also the full tang gives it a substantial feel and great balance.

The Cruwear is a phenomenal value and great slicer too.

Truly great fixed blades in terms of ergos.

I'm really glad these got a reboot and hope to see more like this.

[Fastidiotus]

Loved the SE version so much I bought a back up a couple sales ago and contemplated buying a 3rd. Perfect serrations, perfect ergonomics, in possibly the most perfect steel for the application.

[vivi]

I agree, it's a great design. I like it enough I plan to buy a second before they're all gone. I've taken mine backpacking on 3 different trips now and it works well. Temperance + a machete is a great combo where I live.

Since reprofiling my PE Temp to a thinner edge it carves wood as easily as a scandi grind Mora.

Since my last update I've reprofiled the Temperance to a thinner edge angle....





....and I've spent more time with it. Including taking it along on some backpacking trips!





Here's how I carried it:



How it looked at the start of my last trip:



It was my only knife so it handled all my food prep, including slicing a couple steaks the first night.





It did well on apples, mango, potatoes etc. with the thinner edge I gave it. Geometry is pretty good for food prep work.



It helped build fires.



Here it is with some other fire making equipment.



I used it to break the fatwood down into matches to help start fires during a thunderstorm.



It carved some roasting sticks and feather sticks too.







Most of my experiences with the knife have been good.

As expected cutting performance jumped up quite a bit with the thinner edge. The knife came with a beautifully done full flat grind, but the edge was thick and holding performance back. With the thinner edge slicing through materials takes a lot less effort. It works great on wood, food, rope etc.

Durability still seems good. The knife was used harder than I anticipated. Where I hiked was an older, more established trail system, but despite that many trails were still so overgrown they could not be used. The temperance was used as a pocket machete, trimming back undergrowth on these overgrown trails to make them easier to navigate. No edge damage at all, even after chopping through woody growth.

It held an edge well too. While it dulled a little, it was easily still sharp enough to do everything I needed it to do.

I used it to make wood shavings to spark my fires.

https://dubz.link/v/55e931

The knife worked well for food prep. The blade shape and grind are well suited to the job for a utility knife. The tall flat grind gives the knife good slicing geometry, and there's enough belly for the task.

https://dubz.link/v/0512ad

Corrosion resistance hasn't been great though. I was surprised. People on here talk about how well cruwear resists corrosion, but I didn't find it to do so great.

While camped out it did pretty well. It developed a bit of a cloudy haze after slicing two salty steaks, but didn't show any change after cutting up a bunch of fruits and veggies.

It also didn't show any corrosion after trimming back some trails, but it got rinsed off in the creek within an hour.

However, I got a lot of rust spots after a 5 mile / 115 minute hike in the rain. The knife never came out of its sheath during the trek, but some moisture did creep in over the course of the hike. I wasn't too worried about it,in fact I was surprised I got the rust spots.











Overall the knife did well, even if I was a little let down at how it held up in the rain. Had fun using it

[JoviAl]

I agree, it's a great design. I like it enough I plan to buy a second before they're all gone. I've taken mine backpacking on 3 different trips now and it works well. Temperance + a machete is a great combo where I live.

Since reprofiling my PE Temp to a thinner edge it carves wood as easily as a scandi grind Mora.

Since my last update I've reprofiled the Temperance to a thinner edge angle....





....and I've spent more time with it. Including taking it along on some backpacking trips!





Here's how I carried it:



How it looked at the start of my last trip:



It was my only knife so it handled all my food prep, including slicing a couple steaks the first night.





It did well on apples, mango, potatoes etc. with the thinner edge I gave it. Geometry is pretty good for food prep work.



It helped build fires.



Here it is with some other fire making equipment.



I used it to break the fatwood down into matches to help start fires during a thunderstorm.



It carved some roasting sticks and feather sticks too.







Most of my experiences with the knife have been good.

As expected cutting performance jumped up quite a bit with the thinner edge. The knife came with a beautifully done full flat grind, but the edge was thick and holding performance back. With the thinner edge slicing through materials takes a lot less effort. It works great on wood, food, rope etc.

Durability still seems good. The knife was used harder than I anticipated. Where I hiked was an older, more established trail system, but despite that many trails were still so overgrown they could not be used. The temperance was used as a pocket machete, trimming back undergrowth on these overgrown trails to make them easier to navigate. No edge damage at all, even after chopping through woody growth.

It held an edge well too. While it dulled a little, it was easily still sharp enough to do everything I needed it to do.

I used it to make wood shavings to spark my fires.

https://dubz.link/v/55e931

The knife worked well for food prep. The blade shape and grind are well suited to the job for a utility knife. The tall flat grind gives the knife good slicing geometry, and there's enough belly for the task.

https://dubz.link/v/0512ad

Corrosion resistance hasn't been great though. I was surprised. People on here talk about how well cruwear resists corrosion, but I didn't find it to do so great.

While camped out it did pretty well. It developed a bit of a cloudy haze after slicing two salty steaks, but didn't show any change after cutting up a bunch of fruits and veggies.

It also didn't show any corrosion after trimming back some trails, but it got rinsed off in the creek within an hour.

However, I got a lot of rust spots after a 5 mile / 115 minute hike in the rain. The knife never came out of its sheath during the trek, but some moisture did creep in over the course of the hike. I wasn't too worried about it,in fact I was surprised I got the rust spots.











Overall the knife did well, even if I was a little let down at how it held up in the rain. Had fun using it

Those rust spots from the rain on your hike are wild man. I obsessively apply Froglube paste to all my CruWear blades at the end of each day of work, as my Cruwear Manix XL did something similar after a day of pruning immediately after a monsoon when everything was soaking. I tend to favour my Jumpmaster 2 for wet tasks of late, although the handle on the Temp is noticeably more pleasant to use for protracted periods of hacking in my experience.

[JD Spydo]

One viable option that you can have with the TEMPERANCE 1 model (Cruwear or VG-10) is that you have available in SE & PE both. It's one of the very few premium fixed blades that Spyderco ( or any other company for that matter) has made this model available with in both edges ( PE & SE). I've heard it said by many outdoorsmen, hunters, fishermen, survivalist that plain edged hunting knives offer up everything one would need for outdoor cutting jobs.

Well I kindly and respectfully disagree and I've had two very memorable field dressing chores in the past to where my older, original VG-10 TEMPERANCE became extremely handy with both edge types. On one occasion when I bagged a 35 pound snapping turtle I couldn't have completed dressing it out without both the PE and the SE blades. On another occasion on a fishing trip one of my best friends caught a rather large longnose gar. It was the first time I ever cleaned and field-dressed any type of gar fish. They were both incredibly difficult jobs and I couldn't have finished either job without both the SE & PE TEMPERANCE models. I couldn't believe how difficult it was to penetrate the outer skin of a gar fish. The gar and snapping turtle both were very difficult to prepare. And there is no way I could have completed either job without both edge types available.

I do hope that Spyderco will eventually make more of the TEMP 1 model in other blade steels at some point in the future. I believe when more people try that model that it will become one of their more coveted outdoor blades.

[apollo]

Hi TheHulk,

Welcome to our forum.

Hey Rezimus,

I had asked crucible about Vascowear and if they could make it. They said they already make it and called it Cruwear. When we ordered the Cruwear from Crucible, we were expecting ingot steel........Crucible (Bless their soul) surprised by powdering it.

Don't know if we'll be able to get more?

Hey JD,

we're making a Temperance display in the store, starting with the wooden knife I carved and showing the different models made over time.

sal

Hi Sal. Hope you do not mind me asking but would it be possible to see a cruwear Lil temperance 3 lw sprint run aswel? As its kinda family of this one.

Hi Apollo,

The Lil' Temperance folder is not a high volume model. We would have to see a lot of demand to make that investment.

sal

[Brock O Lee]

I got the SE version yesterday. First impressions, but I'm pleasantly surprised at how solid and hefty it feels for a FRN handled knife. It is well made, the handle fills out my grip beautifully, the sheath is good, and the whole package inspires confidence. Now I want one in PE too...

[gk4ever2]

I found one of each (PE & SE) on sale recently, so I decided to buy them. When they arrived, I was pleasantly surprised by the fit and finish – the grips are comfy and the finish is excellent (grips and steel). I'm looking forward to using them - good job Spyderco!

[JD Spydo]

I found one of each (PE & SE) on sale recently, so I decided to buy them. When they arrived, I was pleasantly surprised by the fit and finish – the grips are comfy and the finish is excellent (grips and steel). I'm looking forward to using them - good job Spyderco!

The Cruwear blade steel has made a huge difference. And I was a big fan of the original VG-10 version as it was.

But now I can boldly say that this could be my ultimate pair of outdoor/culinary fixed blades ( SE & PE).

The handle is still one of my all time favorite out of the entire Spyderco line up.

[Brock O Lee]

I found this old X-Ray picture of the hidden tangs of a Mora Clipper and Temperance. So when you baton firewood, resist the temptation to go "full retard"...

[Flash]

I found this old X-Ray picture of the hidden tangs of a Mora Clipper and Temperance. So when you baton firewood, resist the temptation to go "full retard"...

That’s a surprisingly small tang-to-blade ratio!
Stick and partial tangs are good but to exceed the mechanical limits of one which costs as much as the Temperance isn’t good. Although that said a $15 Mora puts up with modest batoning perfectly well.

What’s also not so good is the Spydie hole on a fixed blade. I don’t see the point in them at all. I know it’s a trademark and all that but it brings nothing but negatives to a fixed blade knife having a hole in the blade. Especially out of a none-stainless steel. Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to emit the hole cutting procedure and, dare I say, pass the saving onto the customer.
Or maybe add a bit more onto the tang on the temperance to make up for the hole.

[Big50]

I handled the Cruwear SE during a trip through Golden right after they dropped. I was impressed!
Somehow I never got around to ordering one. Thankfully I was still able to order a PE last week. I’m waiting for its arrival.

We’ll see how my experience goes with corrosion resistance. I don’t mind patina, but it will undeniably get wet in the backcountry due to thunderstorms & etc. I have a PFS-27 Junction that developed superficial rust super quickly while backpacking, following a summer rainstorm.

[vivi]

I'm surprised reading others experience with cruwear. lots of people say they find it pretty stainless. this is what my temp looked like backpacking for 2 hours through a rain storm, staying in the sheath the entire time:





Makes me glad I went with different steels for my folders. I was pumped when I saw crucarta Manix and Millies revealed but S30V DLC runs, and especially magnacut salt versions, suit me better.

I have a stack of aqua salts I can carry when I expect bad weather at least.

Anyways, partial tang knife concerns are pretty overblown in my opinion. I have a satin finish aqua salt and various hidden tang moras I've been beating on for 15-20 years with zero ill effects. those knives are more limited when it comes to batoning by their blade length more than their hidden tangs. I've never heard of someone breaking a mora, temperance, aqua salt etc. by batoning it. there might be some extremely hard and knotty pieces out there that could do it, but common north american woods like oak, pine, maple, birch etc. are no trouble at all for 4" hidden tang fixed blades.

[Brock O Lee]

Anyways, partial tang knife concerns are pretty overblown in my opinion. I have a satin finish aqua salt and various hidden tang moras I've been beating on for 15-20 years with zero ill effects. those knives are more limited when it comes to batoning by their blade length more than their hidden tangs. I've never heard of someone breaking a mora, temperance, aqua salt etc. by batoning it. there might be some extremely hard and knotty pieces out there that could do it, but common north american woods like oak, pine, maple, birch etc. are no trouble at all for 4" hidden tang fixed blades.

Aussie hardwoods (most of the wood here it seems) are just nasty. Most will eat a partial tang knife for breakfast, if you get carried away with a baton. In fact, even a splitting maul tends to just bounce off it. As this farmer demonstrates on a piece of Ironbark, that has been drying where it fell for more than 3 years (from 15 min onwards).



From my stash of firewood below, this is how deep an ESEE 6 penetrates with the grain, when I swing it as hard as I can.



Batoning firewood here with a knife is not a common practice IMO. It is not practical. Your typical wood is simply too hard, twisted and knotted. You could make kindling, if you have a thin piece or corner with straight grain. This hard stuff won't make "feathersticks", it just powders.

No worries, use the right tool for the job.

I expect a Temperance PE to land tomorrow or Monday. Looking forward to put it to work!

[weeping minora]

Not to take away from CRUWEAR, but I'd like to see a Sprint Run of this Temperance in SPY27. This variant sure did deliver, and I like the knife a whole lot, but something a bit more stainless, with similar attributes otherwise would be superb. I think SPY27 is an excellent choice.

[Brock O Lee]

Not to take away from CRUWEAR, but I'd like to see a Sprint Run of this Temperance in SPY27. This variant sure did deliver, and I like the knife a whole lot, but something a bit more stainless, with similar attributes otherwise would be superb. I think SPY27 is an excellent choice.

My PE arrived!