Which Spyderco models should be discontinued to make room for newer models/variations?

[Larry_Mott]

There's really no point for us forumites to speculate.. I wouldn't be surprised if the Tenacious sells like ice cream in summer for example. Also, as far as i am concerned the exclusives could go the way of the Dodo. To me they're mostly all repetition and no invention, but as I said, who am i to even speculate :)

[GT99]

The only one that comes to mind is the wharncliffe Lil' Native. Not because it isn't great, but because of it's overlap with the Microjimbo. Keep the Microjimbo as the wharncliffe. Keep the Lil' Native as a drop point. Nobody designs wharnies better than Michael Janich.

See id say do the exact opposite and keep the lil native wharnie and scrap the microjumbo and give the lil native the steel options like 15v

[abbazaba]

I get discontinued speculation lists, but a discontinued WISH LIST? Really?

[derp]

Discontinue Sage 5, Sage 6, Para 3, Para 3 LW and replace with Para 3 LW Enhanced - Para 3 LW with liners, pivot bushings, and button (like the Sage 6).

[riclaw]

Discontinue: PM2.

Replace with: Non-Salt Caribbeans with plain un-milled G10 to bring cost down just a little.

I would love to see a peel-ply, non-Salt Caribbean. However, the Caribbean's salty nature is what sets it apart from the Bodacious.

[riclaw]

The only one that comes to mind is the wharncliffe Lil' Native. Not because it isn't great, but because of it's overlap with the Microjimbo. Keep the Microjimbo as the wharncliffe. Keep the Lil' Native as a drop point. Nobody designs wharnies better than Michael Janich.

See id say do the exact opposite and keep the lil native wharnie and scrap the microjumbo and give the lil native the steel options like 15v

No easy decisions. Mad respect to Sal, Gayle, Eric, and the rest of the Spyderco crew!

[riclaw]

There's really no point for us forumites to speculate.. I wouldn't be surprised if the Tenacious sells like ice cream in summer for example. Also, as far as i am concerned the exclusives could go the way of the Dodo. To me they're mostly all repetition and no invention, but as I said, who am i to even speculate :)

One of the benefits of the exclusives is the chance for newcomers to own older models, like the Blade HQ Lum Tanto, the St. Nick's 4V Goddard, and the recent Dodo.

[mikey177]

I would like the Salt 2 wharnie and the Leaf/Rock Jumpers to be dis-discontinued. They are among my favorite models and I was sad when got the axe.

I agree with riclaw that exclusives/sprints are good in that they give newcomers the chance to experience older models. I would never have been able to try the Ayoob and Goddard otherwise.

[vivi]

There's really no point for us forumites to speculate.. I wouldn't be surprised if the Tenacious sells like ice cream in summer for example. Also, as far as i am concerned the exclusives could go the way of the Dodo. To me they're mostly all repetition and no invention, but as I said, who am i to even speculate :)

One of the benefits of the exclusives is the chance for newcomers to own older models, like the Blade HQ Lum Tanto, the St. Nick's 4V Goddard, and the recent Dodo.

This is my favorite type of sprint to see. I get a lot more excited at seeing an old model be re-issued than seeing another variation of a knife already available in 6+ steels. I appreciate the choice of steels, don't get me wrong, but getting a blast from the past hits different.

I've been really happy with my Temperance, and I've got my fingers crossed for a C95 lockback someday.

[VandymanG]

Somebody got bored and decided to stir things up.
Nope
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Expansion time at all sites.
How about collaboration time with Buck, Toor, and Tops .

Sigh ok maybe I’ll give this some serious thought. How about the lowest selling knife at each site? Unless it’s one I still need LOL

[Larry_Mott]

There's really no point for us forumites to speculate.. I wouldn't be surprised if the Tenacious sells like ice cream in summer for example. Also, as far as i am concerned the exclusives could go the way of the Dodo. To me they're mostly all repetition and no invention, but as I said, who am i to even speculate :)

One of the benefits of the exclusives is the chance for newcomers to own older models, like the Blade HQ Lum Tanto, the St. Nick's 4V Goddard, and the recent Dodo.

You're right. I forgot about that. How about a clause that dealer exclusives must be a discontinued model? :)

[Infinite Zero]

Also, as far as i am concerned the exclusives could go the way of the Dodo.

More exclusive Dodos? I’m in!

[p_atrick]

As far as I understand it, dealers (or distributors) pay up front for an exclusive. This helps blunt the negative effect when things like the Rock/Leafjumper don't meet expectations. The critiques about exclusives are legitimate, and I definitely feel the same at times, but they do have their place in the Spyderco ecosystem.

[sal]

Hi P_atrick,

We usually charge the Distributor when we deliver. We don't like to take funds early.

sal

[sal]

Actually, I see value in the thoughts shared. I'm always listening. Yesterday is fact (though sometimes elusive?) Today is now and brief and tomorrow is "Speculaton".

Also appreciate the discussion on distributor excluives.

sal

[Red Leader]

Wow, we've had responses all over the map on this one...

'Get rid of the lowest selling models'

'Get rid of the most popular models'...

'Don't change a thing'

'Wipe the slate clean'

"Actually expand everything' haha...good stuff here!

I like all the thoughts! And I don't know if some folks missed my beginning caveat, but of course they are going to look at their poorest sellers and limited runs and whatnot. It was more about trying to respond to comments I've heard (from Sal) about the pressure that they face to meet all the demands out there, and knowing that certain projects they've committed to have not been able to happen yet due to other overwhelming demands, well...its just a fun, innocent thing to think about...what if they got rid of this? Or that?

I wonder how the Crucible thing would shake things up. Someone made a comment about 'get rid of them all' and make them earn their place back. Well, for steels coming back online after Crucible, that might not be a bad idea. Leave the 4V, 60V, Rex-45, M390, etc., for Exclusives, replace S30V w/ Magnacut, let Magnamax replace M398, Maxamet, and S110V.

Could SPY27 replace S30V and S45VN, AND VG-10 across the board? That would consolidate a ton.

But who knows. Maybe paring down would actually take more time and resources instead of just letting things naturally flow how they will.

As always, they know their own resources best. But it would be neat to see the response time from projects they are actually willing to commit to not have to take years - not a critique, but more of a hope.

[sal]

That was the entire purpose of the factory expansion, in the US. Eric had some plans that we thought to try. It's actually a very large endeavor, but we should be ale to increase US production.

Also, on speculation, push the envelope. We've got new blade steels in-the-works, New locks, new designs, new collaborators, and what you want.

sal

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"Continual improvement is our evolutionary obligation to humankind".

[Red Leader]

Also, on speculation, push the envelope. We've got new blade steels in-the-works, New locks, new designs, new collaborators,

Really grateful for your open-mindedness here, Sal, and the keen interest you take in the thoughts of your more enthsiastic customer base. I don't know any other company that does that to the degree Spyderco does. Thank you!

A few quick envelope pushers that I can think of: That damascus UKPK (maybe a great platform for that new Baker Forge stainless damascus?), the Chap XL, the Native 3.5...all great ideas.

A little more pushy...saving enough Rex-121 for a small flash batch Sage 6 version?

And even more pushy than that...I'm ready for the Para 4 w/ button compression lock. I'm even good w/ it replacing the Para 3 entirely. As a lefty user, the button means far more than it simply appears.

And since fortune favors the bold...next time I'm at the SFO, I'll bring over my Manix 2 with the modified crossbar/CBBL hybrid lock if you want to play around with it, which in use I'm finding I slightly prefer it over the traditional CBBL...




I think I've come to appreciate when various products get discontinued, because it means that it makes room for more new products, and the chance for a dealer to revive it in an exclusive. Best of both worlds there.

[sal]

thanx for the input.

I'd like to see the lock, but you'll have to meet with Peter and me before we can look at it. Appt. necessary. ND, etc.

sal

[Paul Ardbeg]

Living in Europe, I would like to see dealer exclusives here. I can think of one dealer that's big enough in Europe that can do this. Imagine a dealer exclusive Caly 3 or 3.5 in HAP40 GB2

From a colab perspective, a small fixed blade would be very interesting. UG tools makes this Tiny in Magnacut (64-65 HRC) with a sort of 3D printed hollow titanium handle. According to UG tools it is as strong as a full tang blade. It super light weight.