Why Did The Jumpers Fail?

[Snacktime]

Can you elaborate on this a bit?

I carried an Endura for years. When I learned about the knife laws here in CO (max 3.5" for concealed), I ground the blade down to comply.

Are you saying that in a court of law, that 'now-less-than-3.5" knife' would be treated legally as an 'over-3.5" knife' due to the way the manufacturer made it or described it? Is that a law-enforcement perspective, or something that has been handed down to you as knowledge from law enforcement? I suppose every state is different, but I've been grinding down knives now for years to keep them 'legal' but I suppose it would be important to know if that would be all for nothing in a court of law.

Thanks for sharing any other thoughts you may have.

I work in the regulations and compliance so it boils down to prior knowledge. If you knowingly bought something that isn't compliant you have zero defense. Pretty easy to prove these days with the requirements to train people on product safety data sheets and that modified tools are not acceptable. In a federal building you are getting searched and charged, just nature of the beast. Since I am working you just play by the rules. Let's not get started on lasers in flashlights lol.

[Red Leader]

Can you elaborate on this a bit?

I carried an Endura for years. When I learned about the knife laws here in CO (max 3.5" for concealed), I ground the blade down to comply.

Are you saying that in a court of law, that 'now-less-than-3.5" knife' would be treated legally as an 'over-3.5" knife' due to the way the manufacturer made it or described it? Is that a law-enforcement perspective, or something that has been handed down to you as knowledge from law enforcement? I suppose every state is different, but I've been grinding down knives now for years to keep them 'legal' but I suppose it would be important to know if that would be all for nothing in a court of law.

Thanks for sharing any other thoughts you may have.

I work in the regulations and compliance so it boils down to prior knowledge. If you knowingly bought something that isn't compliant you have zero defense. Pretty easy to prove these days with the requirements to train people on product safety data sheets and that modified tools are not acceptable. In a federal building you are getting searched and charged, just nature of the beast. Since I am working you just play by the rules. Let's not get started on lasers in flashlights lol.

I appreciate your response!

Hmmmmm! Well, makes me slightly more appreciative of that 3.48" blade on the Stretch 2...

[R100]

I love my K390 Leafjumper. It by far has the best FRN kickback action of any Spyderco. Only the G10 Stretch XL Cruwear is close. My Stretch 2 K390 is absolutely awful by comparison (won’t even snap shut and is difficult to shake closed one handed… can’t do it without blade play and also has lock rock.) Not even the CF S90V Native 5 has an action as nice as the Leafjumper. I love it, and am shocked it didn’t sell well enough, especially in K390.

There are however 2 things I wish were improved if they re-release something in this choiless format. Fix the shape when closed so that it doesn’t have a bare open spine when shut. The Stretch and Native don’t have this issue… but it’s a minor aesthetic thing. The real issue for me is the palm swell. It needs to be reshaped. I think a shallower swoop near the front of the handle and less of a swell bulge would make the handle more comfortable, especially since there’s no “choil grip” position.

Also, regarding the Boye dent. On my Stretch 2, the dent actually lines up to almost disengage the lock. There’s no such issue at all on the Leafjumper or the Native 5, neither of which have the Boye dent. I think overall I like the Stretch 2 shape of blade and handle better than the Leafjumper, but the action and fit and finish are just miles and miles better than the FRN Stretch 2. If we don’t get a return for the Leafjumper, I would like to see some CQI put into the stretch to make the action smooth and less instance lock rock.

There is quite a bit of variation in fit and finish of Seki lockbacks. In this case you were just unlucky with your Stretch 2 K390. It's the opposite for me because mine is a near perfect example with better action and lockup than my 2 K390 Leafjumpers (PE and SE) which are also very good. On the other hand the first Endela I bought is a complete dog with terrible lock rock. I was quite prejudiced against this model until I bought the Cruwear version and got a good one. I have learned over the years that it is a bit of a gamble with Seki and you can get a good or bad version of any model.

In my experience the Golden models are tighter but not not as smooth.

Dan