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That Metropolitan is mine !

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When they decided to shorten the Urban’s blade I was quite let down but now I am happy again. This one is going to be a fierce competitor against my usual urban go to pocket folders. I hope Doc Dan is as excited as I am. Bring it on !
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I’m delighted this has finally surfaced. M398 will be fine for this, too.

I always liked the SpyDK handle and size, but absolutely not the lack of proper one handed opening.

I wonder if it will include the reinforced pivot hole?
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Is this one smaller than the UKPK?
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RugerNurse wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 7:07 pm
Is this one smaller than the UKPK?
Yes. It is sized between the UKPK and Urban.
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Placed my order the moment I was notified of Reveal 18 by Knife Center. I have an Urban and just love the M398 steel. I'm a little puzzled how Spyderco manages to sell knives with such premium steel with such High Edge Retention. M398 is awesome ( in my humble opinion) and with the cost of knives going through the roof...wow ! Can't wait for this to ship. Also can't wait to get a Manix 2 with 15V ( to go along with my Para3 with 15V), another fantastic steel for a great price. Thanks Spyderco.
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elena86 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:00 am
When they decided to shorten the Urban’s blade I was quite let down but now I am happy again. This one is going to be a fierce competitor against my usual urban go to pocket folders. I hope Doc Dan is as excited as I am. Bring it on !
Finally! After all of these years. I hope the action is better than the Urban and more like the UKPK. The action on the Urban got so bad I just gave up on it.
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Doc Dan wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:13 pm
elena86 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:00 am
When they decided to shorten the Urban’s blade I was quite let down but now I am happy again. This one is going to be a fierce competitor against my usual urban go to pocket folders. I hope Doc Dan is as excited as I am. Bring it on !
Finally! After all of these years. I hope the action is better than the Urban and more like the UKPK. The action on the Urban got so bad I just gave up on it.
Good question. Does anybody know if it'll use a UKPK-style split spring or the more simple spring design used in the Urban and Squeak?
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I don't know. My Squeaks were so weak I was afraid of them, so I gifted them. My Urbans, except for my K390 Sprint, have been hard and rough to open and close. They were so bad I have to be careful not to cut myself when closing. I still keep them for traveling, though. I want this Metro to be a resounding success.
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Doc Dan wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:39 pm
I don't know. My Squeaks were so weak I was afraid of them, so I gifted them. My Urbans, except for my K390 Sprint, have been hard and rough to open and close. They were so bad I have to be careful not to cut myself when closing. I still keep them for traveling, though. I want this Metro to be a resounding success.
I hope they incorporated the full back spring, the improved pivot and the action is similar to my K390 Urban. I consider the UKPK to be weaker to open/close than I’d like to be but that’s me.
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elena86 wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 12:22 am
Doc Dan wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:39 pm
I don't know. My Squeaks were so weak I was afraid of them, so I gifted them. My Urbans, except for my K390 Sprint, have been hard and rough to open and close. They were so bad I have to be careful not to cut myself when closing. I still keep them for traveling, though. I want this Metro to be a resounding success.
I hope they incorporated the full back spring, the improved pivot and the action is similar to my K390 Urban. I consider the UKPK to be weaker to open/close than I’d like to be but that’s me.
While the UKPK definitely hasn't got the highest spring tension ever seen in a slipjoint, I feel like the open, closed and half-stop positions feel very positive, snappy, clearly defined and thus very confidence inspiring. Even though the Urbans spring is stiffer, it feels less clear when it will disengage. Sounds counterintuitive but I believe it has to do with the split spring design particular only found in the UKPK.
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elena86 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:00 am
When they decided to shorten the Urban’s blade I was quite let down but now I am happy again. This one is going to be a fierce competitor against my usual urban go to pocket folders. I hope Doc Dan is as excited as I am. Bring it on !
I too have my hopes up that this will be the better Urban.
The HH Urban was my first shot at a Spyderco slipjoint, and it was such a mixed bag. Some complained about the finishing of the G10 handle, but that handle was really the only positive IMO. It's a user, so I don't care about perfect finishing, but the grip traction, colour and ergonomics were spot on. Action was... different. Not going to complain about the action, it's safe and easy enough to operate, just feels different to most other slipjoints I've tried.
The blade was the big disappointment. Not only was it shorter than specified, it was also much shorter than the handle would allow, and so short that I end up choosing other knives with more useful blade shapes and/or better blade/weight ratio when I want to carry a smaller knife.
It's still my only one handed slipjoint, so I keep it around for travels to select countries, but that's almost never a thing.

The Urban handle was perfection to my hand, so in a perfect world the Metropolitian would be a Urban handle with a full length knife blade, but if I must accept a slightly longer handle to get a functional blade length, that's a compromise I'll take. I don't expect the ergo's to be wildly different.

I will be disappointed if it turns out the blade length on the Met is also shorter than it needs to be. But really hoping this will be the one handed slippy that strikes the right balance.
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aicolainen wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 1:44 am
elena86 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:00 am
When they decided to shorten the Urban’s blade I was quite let down but now I am happy again. This one is going to be a fierce competitor against my usual urban go to pocket folders. I hope Doc Dan is as excited as I am. Bring it on !
I too have my hopes up that this will be the better Urban.
The HH Urban was my first shot at a Spyderco slipjoint, and it was such a mixed bag. Some complained about the finishing of the G10 handle, but that handle was really the only positive IMO. It's a user, so I don't care about perfect finishing, but the grip traction, colour and ergonomics were spot on. Action was... different. Not going to complain about the action, it's safe and easy enough to operate, just feels different to most other slipjoints I've tried.
The blade was the big disappointment. Not only was it shorter than specified, it was also much shorter than the handle would allow, and so short that I end up choosing other knives with more useful blade shapes and/or better blade/weight ratio when I want to carry a smaller knife.
It's still my only one handed slipjoint, so I keep it around for travels to select countries, but that's almost never a thing.

The Urban handle was perfection to my hand, so in a perfect world the Metropolitian would be a Urban handle with a full length knife blade, but if I must accept a slightly longer handle to get a functional blade length, that's a compromise I'll take. I don't expect the ergo's to be wildly different.

I will be disappointed if it turns out the blade length on the Met is also shorter than it needs to be. But really hoping this will be the one handed slippy that strikes the right balance.
I might be wrong, but I think it has the SPY-DK handle, which is very similar to the Urban. @elena86 will probably remember for certain.
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Doc Dan wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 9:08 am
aicolainen wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 1:44 am
elena86 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:00 am
When they decided to shorten the Urban’s blade I was quite let down but now I am happy again. This one is going to be a fierce competitor against my usual urban go to pocket folders. I hope Doc Dan is as excited as I am. Bring it on !
I too have my hopes up that this will be the better Urban.
The HH Urban was my first shot at a Spyderco slipjoint, and it was such a mixed bag. Some complained about the finishing of the G10 handle, but that handle was really the only positive IMO. It's a user, so I don't care about perfect finishing, but the grip traction, colour and ergonomics were spot on. Action was... different. Not going to complain about the action, it's safe and easy enough to operate, just feels different to most other slipjoints I've tried.
The blade was the big disappointment. Not only was it shorter than specified, it was also much shorter than the handle would allow, and so short that I end up choosing other knives with more useful blade shapes and/or better blade/weight ratio when I want to carry a smaller knife.
It's still my only one handed slipjoint, so I keep it around for travels to select countries, but that's almost never a thing.

The Urban handle was perfection to my hand, so in a perfect world the Metropolitian would be a Urban handle with a full length knife blade, but if I must accept a slightly longer handle to get a functional blade length, that's a compromise I'll take. I don't expect the ergo's to be wildly different.

I will be disappointed if it turns out the blade length on the Met is also shorter than it needs to be. But really hoping this will be the one handed slippy that strikes the right balance.
I might be wrong, but I think it has the SPY-DK handle, which is very similar to the Urban. @elena86 will probably remember for certain.
This is correct as far as I know, also. I for sure know it doesn't have the Urban handle, but my post could have been confusing as I referenced a fantasy knife, namely an Urban with a longer blade. As long as my fantasy knife doesn't exist, the Metropolitan will probably/hopefully be my second best option - with also a slightly longer handle.
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I never had a SpyDK at the same time as an Urban, but IIRC it felt more like the Byrd Tern in size.

However, the spec sheets says the Met is 162mm o/a against 151mm Urban (but with a 2mm longer handle & 7mm longer blade), 175mm for the UKPK, and 163mm for the Tern.
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ChrisinHove wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 12:47 pm
I never had a SpyDK at the same time as an Urban, but IIRC it felt more like the Byrd Tern in size.

However, the spec sheets says the Met is 162mm o/an against 151mm (but with a 2mm longer handle & 7mm longer blade). 175mm for the UKPK, and 163mm for the Tern.
I didn't compare the specs myself, so this is quite interesting.
A 2mm longer handle should not make too much difference in ergonomics, so this could be exactly what I'm hoping for; noticeably more blade for almost unnoticeably more handle.
It makes me wonder what happened to the last 2mm though :smiling-cheeks
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Doc Dan wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 9:08 am

I might be wrong, but I think it has the SPY-DK handle, which is very similar to the Urban. @elena86 will probably remember for certain.
I don’t have either anymore, but the SPY-DK handle is definitely longer than the Urban but shorter than the UKPK. I actually preferred it (with the choil) over both the others. I just couldn’t get past the two hand opening.
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aicolainen wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 11:29 am
Doc Dan wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 9:08 am
aicolainen wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 1:44 am
elena86 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 11:00 am
When they decided to shorten the Urban’s blade I was quite let down but now I am happy again. This one is going to be a fierce competitor against my usual urban go to pocket folders. I hope Doc Dan is as excited as I am. Bring it on !
I too have my hopes up that this will be the better Urban.
The HH Urban was my first shot at a Spyderco slipjoint, and it was such a mixed bag. Some complained about the finishing of the G10 handle, but that handle was really the only positive IMO. It's a user, so I don't care about perfect finishing, but the grip traction, colour and ergonomics were spot on. Action was... different. Not going to complain about the action, it's safe and easy enough to operate, just feels different to most other slipjoints I've tried.
The blade was the big disappointment. Not only was it shorter than specified, it was also much shorter than the handle would allow, and so short that I end up choosing other knives with more useful blade shapes and/or better blade/weight ratio when I want to carry a smaller knife.
It's still my only one handed slipjoint, so I keep it around for travels to select countries, but that's almost never a thing.

The Urban handle was perfection to my hand, so in a perfect world the Metropolitian would be a Urban handle with a full length knife blade, but if I must accept a slightly longer handle to get a functional blade length, that's a compromise I'll take. I don't expect the ergo's to be wildly different.

I will be disappointed if it turns out the blade length on the Met is also shorter than it needs to be. But really hoping this will be the one handed slippy that strikes the right balance.
I might be wrong, but I think it has the SPY-DK handle, which is very similar to the Urban. @elena86 will probably remember for certain.
This is correct as far as I know, also. I for sure know it doesn't have the Urban handle, but my post could have been confusing as I referenced a fantasy knife, namely an Urban with a longer blade. As long as my fantasy knife doesn't exist, the Metropolitan will probably/hopefully be my second best option - with also a slightly longer handle.
The Met IS an Urban with a longer blade. It’s in between the old Urban( 2.61”) and the UKPK. It’s almost perfect IMO. I hope the guys from Maniago don’t screw this project up. I am expecting the K390 Urban level of quality if not higher.
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I’m definitely getting one, but the time it spends in my pocket really depends on how strong the half stop is.
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Posted on the "Eddge Matters" forum in the UK.

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The Metropolitan was planned many years ago when we made the Danish model. It was designed to be a 2.75" blade model to sit between the Urban and the UK, mostly for the UK market. I didn't want to tool up an FRN handle for what I thought would be a short run on the Danish model, so we planned in the Metropolitan.

But then we realized that the maker was making the Urban a 2.65" blade length and I felt that the Metropolitan would be too close. So we had to make the change to the Urban to 2.5" blade length and then run through inventory before beginning the Metro. So now, years later, the plan is finally coming to fruition.

I hadn't thought about it as a forum knife as I'm not sure about delivery? It would also take a long time to develop if changes were to be made besides engraving.

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Videos with it are coming in from Blade Show. Looks very nice. They said they won’t use M398 forever, just in the beginning production.
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