LeafJumper

[SpeedHoles]

Bit sad to browse through some of this thread now... All of the positive responses, all of the optimism, hope, and expectation for future renditions... And now disco'ed!? Too bad.
Glad I have a K390... But makes me wonder what else could have been if it caught on more mainstream.

Does this mean the Endela won the overlap battle?


I also laughed a bit at the guy who said it was his favorite Spydie, then surprise edited to then say he flipped his mood and hates it. About the only negative I saw in the thread!

[knivesandbooks]

I picked up one up in K390 from a dealer recently. Just wanted a beater K390 knife. First Seki model I’ve purchased in probably 6 years. The action is way better on this, better even than my pakkawood Endura and my back lock Manix. It’s a very good back lock action, even free falls when the lock is disengaged. My problem is that for hard cuts, the knife is downright uncomfortable. I figured out the biggest problem with it is the pocket clip. I took the pocket clip off and it is so much better. I put the pocket clip so the knife carries tip down and it is so much better. BUT the screws are too long so if I make it tip down carry, the screws scrape against the blade. You can feel it just scraping as the knife struggles to open/close. It’s a bummer. Not sure why you’d offer the knife tapped for tip down if you’re not going to provide the correct sized hardware for it to be mounted that way. Now it doesn’t have a pocket clip and doesn’t get carried. Just use it to cut trash in the garage.

[mikey177]

I suppose the people that bought both the Leafjumper and Endela are the winners.

I like them both, and it's sad that sales couldn't support the continued existence of the LJ in the lineup.

[StuntZombie]

I liked the Leafjumper at first. But, after a while I found my preferences changed, and I came to realize I don’t really like knives that are that tall when closed. It’s a bit of a pocket hog. It probably makes for a great grip in tricky situations, but if I’m being honest myself, I’m not going to be finding myself in those kinds of situations. I just prefer knives that are slimmer overall.

Honestly, looking at that pic of the Endela and Rockjumper, I don’t think I realized just how close they were design wise. It could be that folks already had what they needed, and the Rock/Leafjumper wasn’t different enough to warrant the purchase.

[Aladinsane]

I’m a big fan of Scandinavian fixed blade knives, especially the very comfortable handles. Last night I had my Leafjumper out and realized how much like a Scandinavian knife the handle of the Jumpers is. It has a hook on the back, a finger guard in front, and a palm swell, making both types comfortable and safe. The Jumpers excel only in the curved back, which I suppose the fixed blade is straighter due to the tang. I wonder if this is coincidence, or was done on purpose?

[SpeedHoles]

I’m a big fan of Scandinavian fixed blade knives, especially the very comfortable handles. Last night I had my Leafjumper out and realized how much like a Scandinavian knife the handle of the Jumpers is. It has a hook on the back, a finger guard in front, and a palm swell, making both types comfortable and safe. The Jumpers excel only in the curved back, which I suppose the fixed blade is straighter due to the tang. I wonder if this is coincidence, or was done on purpose?
BKKP3772.JPG

If you start looking around, a lot of Sals designs have traditionally had that swell, just with varying degrees of hook or guard and then with and without choil, etc.

[Aladinsane]

I’m a big fan of Scandinavian fixed blade knives, especially the very comfortable handles. Last night I had my Leafjumper out and realized how much like a Scandinavian knife the handle of the Jumpers is. It has a hook on the back, a finger guard in front, and a palm swell, making both types comfortable and safe. The Jumpers excel only in the curved back, which I suppose the fixed blade is straighter due to the tang. I wonder if this is coincidence, or was done on purpose?
BKKP3772.JPG

If you start looking around, a lot of Sals designs have traditionally had that swell, just with varying degrees of hook or guard and then with and without choil, etc.

Very good! Spyderco is following a great, time tested tradition!

[Red Leader]

If you've been on the fence about picking one of these up, the time is now. And don't do it for the design. Don't do it for the steel, but do it for how incredibly smooth this knife is. Thing spydie flicks so easy I could do it in my sleep and for a backlock that is just incredible, I mean light years different/better than the Native 5 lw we have. And that is also coming as a huuuuge fan of K390. I only wish my LT3 K390 was this smooth...but we will get there with that one.

I'm usually want to take my knives apart to inspect, clean, and look for improvements. No need with this one, there is just no need to improve it, it's that good.

[gk4ever2]

I was not aware of the LeafJumper until I heard it was being discontinued, and then I bought 2 plus another one later I like it so much. The LJ has become my EDC unless I'm carrying a Chief or M1/M2. Hopefully the design will return, maybe slightly tweaked.

[SpeedHoles]

It's just a hunch, but maybe to the more common knife consumer scrolling retailer site pages when shopping for a knife, just at a quick glance, the 'Jumpers do appear to have an odd blade-to-handle ratio, throwing it off visually to the average knife shopper and looking stubby. And on top of that, the design kind of blurs with other FRN models also, confusing the buyer. Unless you have a keen eye for the handle forward design difference, which would slip through the cracks to most, then it just looks like another overlap model. (Anyone ever shop for a KTM dirtbike? Yeah, similar model confusion situation there).

Maybe this CliffJumper or whatever the next series continuation model is, will be a more visually striking/appealing knife to draw in other buyers...?
I know these aren't designed to be just looked at, but just trying to speculate out loud why sales kind of suffered overall.

[cabfrank]

I want one before they're gone. I just can't decide between the Rock and the Leaf.

[sal]

Hi Speedholes,

I think that your analysis is accurate. As a knife afi, much of my design is geared to afi's, but we do have to support the genera knife market to be able to "play" in the world of Afi's. Even Mr. Ferrari had to sell cars to support his racing.

sal
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"When you buy a drill, you don't want a drill. What you want is a hole....Keep sight of the goal".

[SpeedHoles]

Hi Speedholes,

I think that your analysis is accurate. As a knife afi, much of my design is geared to afi's, but we do have to support the genera knife market to be able to "play" in the world of Afi's. Even Mr. Ferrari had to sell cars to support his racing.

sal
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"When you buy a drill, you don't want a drill. What you want is a hole....Keep sight of the goal".

Ah yes, extremely relevant example there, I dig it!

By the way, looking forward to the Edgerati, on that same note... Also a bit reminiscent of the trellis frame on a Ducati... Not as often mentioned as the Maserati inspiration.

[sal]

Funny. I was also a Ducati fan.

sal

[chronovore]

Bit sad to browse through some of this thread now... All of the positive responses, all of the optimism, hope, and expectation for future renditions... And now disco'ed!? Too bad.
Glad I have a K390... But makes me wonder what else could have been if it caught on more mainstream.

Does this mean the Endela won the overlap battle?


I also laughed a bit at the guy who said it was his favorite Spydie, then surprise edited to then say he flipped his mood and hates it. About the only negative I saw in the thread!

I love my RockJumper and run it with an MXG clip. I was interested in the LeafJumper but where I'm at, it's just hard to justify another knife in VG-10. Yeah, I know K390 is a thing but I really prefer stainless. I could live with 3V, Cru-Wear, or Micro-Melt; but I'd prefer MagnaCut, SPY27, or S45VN...

That said, who makes aftermarket scales for these?

[Aladinsane]

I want one before they're gone. I just can't decide between the Rock and the Leaf.

I have both iterations of the LJ, very versatile, comfortable, and well designed and built. The leaf shape blade is such a good compromise that I am agonizing over getting the RJ, hence this thread and feverish reading of all RJ and Wharnie threads!!

[Enactive]

Bit sad to browse through some of this thread now... All of the positive responses, all of the optimism, hope, and expectation for future renditions... And now disco'ed!? Too bad.
Glad I have a K390... But makes me wonder what else could have been if it caught on more mainstream.

Does this mean the Endela won the overlap battle?


I also laughed a bit at the guy who said it was his favorite Spydie, then surprise edited to then say he flipped his mood and hates it. About the only negative I saw in the thread!

I love my RockJumper and run it with an MXG clip. I was interested in the LeafJumper but where I'm at, it's just hard to justify another knife in VG-10. Yeah, I know K390 is a thing but I really prefer stainless. I could live with 3V, Cru-Wear, or Micro-Melt; but I'd prefer MagnaCut, SPY27, or S45VN...

That said, who makes aftermarket scales for these?

FYI, Micro-Melt is Bohler's terminology for their third gen PM process. It is not a grade designator, I'm guessing you meant PD1?

CTS, CPM and Micro-Melt are the PM designators from Carpenter, Crucible and Bohler respectively.

[cjk]

Bit sad to browse through some of this thread now... All of the positive responses, all of the optimism, hope, and expectation for future renditions... And now disco'ed!? Too bad.
Glad I have a K390... But makes me wonder what else could have been if it caught on more mainstream.

Does this mean the Endela won the overlap battle?


I also laughed a bit at the guy who said it was his favorite Spydie, then surprise edited to then say he flipped his mood and hates it. About the only negative I saw in the thread!

I love my RockJumper and run it with an MXG clip. I was interested in the LeafJumper but where I'm at, it's just hard to justify another knife in VG-10. Yeah, I know K390 is a thing but I really prefer stainless. I could live with 3V, Cru-Wear, or Micro-Melt; but I'd prefer MagnaCut, SPY27, or S45VN...

That said, who makes aftermarket scales for these?

FYI, Micro-Melt is Bohler's terminology for their third gen PM process. It is not a grade designator, I'm guessing you meant PD1?

CTS, CPM and Micro-Melt are the PM designators from Carpenter, Crucible and Bohler respectively.

The MICRO-MELT trademark belongs to CRS HOLDINGS, LLC .
https://trademarks.justia.com/742/57/mi ... 57392.html
Looking at the other trademarks owned by CRS HOLDINGS, LLC, it appears to be Carpenter.
https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/cr ... c-4903994/

Micro-melt PD#1:
https://www.carpentertechnology.com/all ... o-melt-pd1
Micro-melt Maxamet:
https://www.carpentertechnology.com/hub ... axamet.pdf

Suingab makes scales for the Rockjumper/Leafjumper thanks to @JSumm .

[Bouddha77]

I have the LeafJ in k390.
Il like many things such as the blade shape, steel, ergo of the handle.
There is however imho a design flow which is the stud that holds the lock back.
I dismantled the knife to die the scales, polish the washers and sharpen the blade as it was poorly done on my sample (never had that on over 50 Spyderco I own so will not take it into account).
To re mount the knife, I struggled a lot as the stud would not get into the 2nd steel liner scale so had to mount the knife without the lockbar and add it at the end with the help of my wife as i needed more than 2 hands for this operation…
But aside of that it’s a great knife that would certainly deserve an update/redesign to further improve it.

Rgds

[SpeedHoles]

Bit sad to browse through some of this thread now... All of the positive responses, all of the optimism, hope, and expectation for future renditions... And now disco'ed!? Too bad.
Glad I have a K390... But makes me wonder what else could have been if it caught on more mainstream.

Does this mean the Endela won the overlap battle?


I also laughed a bit at the guy who said it was his favorite Spydie, then surprise edited to then say he flipped his mood and hates it. About the only negative I saw in the thread!

I love my RockJumper and run it with an MXG clip. I was interested in the LeafJumper but where I'm at, it's just hard to justify another knife in VG-10. Yeah, I know K390 is a thing but I really prefer stainless. I could live with 3V, Cru-Wear, or Micro-Melt; but I'd prefer MagnaCut, SPY27, or S45VN...

That said, who makes aftermarket scales for these?

FYI, Micro-Melt is Bohler's terminology for their third gen PM process. It is not a grade designator, I'm guessing you meant PD1?

CTS, CPM and Micro-Melt are the PM designators from Carpenter, Crucible and Bohler respectively.

Yeah like cjk clarified, it's Carpenter.
Maybe you were thinking of "Microclean" and Böhler?