Please make Native 5 a compression lock!!

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Please make Native 5 a compression lock!!

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This is not the first time this topic has come up. Although, it needs to be addressed again.

Sal, Eric, Spyderco, please make the Native 5 a Native 6 with a compression lock!! Please also add a wire pocket clip!! The choil, blade shape, blade size and ergonomics can all be left the same. This would be the perfect size for a carry knife, even better than the Para 3, Sage 5 and Lil' Native. I will happily give you more revenue for this!! Sprint and Limited Edition models included!!

Thank you for listening!

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Yes I want too
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Please no. It's one of the finest mid/back lock knives there is. They don't all need to have compression locks. There's plenty of other models available with it
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Sharp Guy wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:24 pm
Please no. It's one of the finest mid/back lock knives there is. They don't all need to compression locks. There's plenty of other models available with it
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Please don’t
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Let's pretend this thread never happened.
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Sharp Guy wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:24 pm
Please no. It's one of the finest mid/back lock knives there is. They don't all need to have compression locks. There's plenty of other models available with it
+1 - Please don't. It's a fantastic lockback and I've really tired of compression locks after having them come partially open in my pocket. I've got 3 pairs of pants sitting on a table waiting for me to repair the holes made as a result but I'm a terrible sower so it hasn't happened yet. I holed the last one yesterday with a PM2 and it made me think no more compression locks! I'll probably crack for the Bodacious but it would be a much better knife with a backlock or CBBL or even a liner lock. I've never had a Spyderco liner lock come open in my pocket but have had many incidents with compression locks.

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Re: Please make Native 5 a compression lock!!

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Personally I can just join the choir:

Please NOT!

Backlock generally makes for better ergos (especially im harder use), is better usable with gloves or cold, wet hands, is totally ambidextrous, much safer concerning accidental opening and also in operation (so many good, safe ways to close it one handed)....

On top of that and as said already: The Native 5 has one of the best backlocks ever.

I once started a thread/poll though about making the Native line the family where each single model could be had with either a back or a comp.lock (like the Lil Native already does) so that everyone could pick their poison with each model, see here
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For me though: Backlock over comp.lock, pretty much always...
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Personally, I choose slipjoint over compression lock, but that's just me. I'm on the verge of abandoning Spyderco altogether, and this would be another nail in the coffin.
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Please don’t. One of the finest back locks. Let’s not mess with it.
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yablanowitz wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:56 pm
I'm on the verge of abandoning Spyderco altogether, and this would be another nail in the coffin.
Just because they use the compression lock on so many models? or is there more to this?

Rgds the topic, I’m not bothered by choices, if a CL Native could co-exist with the back lock I would be quite happy to see other people getting the knife they want. On the flip side, many will possibly never get to experience how good a back lock can be. The N5 is truly one of the best. And ofc, I too would rather see Spyderco using their production capacity to introduce new models, than make endless iterations of existing ones… so there’s that too.
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No. Not no how, not no way.
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I like the Native 5 as a backlock, and would not be interested in getting a compression lock variant if one came out. I prefer the backlock as it is more likely to stay closed during rigorous activities.

That said, the size and shape of the Sage 5 aren't too different from the Native 5, and it already has that nice wire clip, plus a slightly longer but thinner blade.

The hump on the Sage 5 isn't as pronounced as that on the Para 3, so I would give the Sage 5 a closer look.
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+1 on the do not tough the backlock i own both a gen 1 and a gen 5 lcn salt and the design is marvelous as it is do not change a winning team!!!
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yablanowitz wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:56 pm
Personally, I choose slipjoint over compression lock, but that's just me.
There was a thread a while back about making a Native slipjoint. With the large choil its almost as if the knife was designed to be a slipjoint first, just a rediculous amount of finger safety. Would probably kill too many UKPK sales, but what a great urban edc it would.


The Native 5 is one of the (if not the) easiest knives to disassemble and service, don't need the complock to come along and ruin that.
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Fastidiotus wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:51 am
The Native 5 is one of the (if not the) easiest knives to disassemble and service, don't need the complock to come along and ruin that.
How does it differ from other backlocks in this regard?
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benja-man wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:08 am
Fastidiotus wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:51 am
The Native 5 is one of the (if not the) easiest knives to disassemble and service, don't need the complock to come along and ruin that.
How does it differ from other backlocks in this regard?
Try re-assembling a delica, endela or endura.
They are Nightmarish in comparison to the Native. The weak bottom spring mount moves out of place and distorts when pressure is applied from the spring. This mount has a locating spigot for the scales which makes it impossible to reassemble with the blade in place. You have to blindly slot it in after you connect the scales and hope and pray that washers and screws line up as they should.

The whole experience, To quote the dude from Total Recall, “makes me wish I had three hands!”

The Native 5’s spring mount simply doesn’t distort. 👍
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Sharp Guy wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:24 pm
Please no. It's one of the finest mid/back lock knives there is. They don't all need to have compression locks. There's plenty of other models available with it
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aicolainen wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:58 pm
yablanowitz wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:56 pm
I'm on the verge of abandoning Spyderco altogether, and this would be another nail in the coffin.
Just because they use the compression lock on so many models? or is there more to this?
Because they are following their market in a direction I don't care to go. The comp lock is my least favored lock, followed by the RIL. I detest proud liners on a folder, and even more when they are ground into teeth, and flippers irritate me to no end. It appears they are changing from high performance cutting tools to expensive fidget toys.

I wish them well, but they can get along without me on that journey.
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Yet another variant of an existing model opposed to designing something new?

Sounds like it’s probably already in the works.
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