Sorry, maybe I misunderstood you, but if you want to tilt the Sharpmaker stones by a certain degree, let's say x, you also need to tilt the base by the same amount x. No formula needed.jasonstone20 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:41 amJoviAl-
You can always try rotating the base of the Sharpmaker. Someone years ago came up with a formula to get a specific angle, and I wrote a small computer program that you can run in your web browser that will tell you what angle is the base needed to be turned to get a specific angle.
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Re: Sharpmaker Elite Edition
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Re: Sharpmaker Elite Edition
Senfkarte,
yes, you can tilt the Sharpmaker also. I am talking about rotating the base.
yes, you can tilt the Sharpmaker also. I am talking about rotating the base.
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Re: Sharpmaker Elite Edition
This is kinda what I'd like. My only real issue with the Sharpkeeper, is that my rods fit loosely. I try to apply the same force on the downstrokes but if I press harder I can see the rods change its angle. SFO said my base was within specs, but I know it is older, I have the brass rods. Maybe I need a new base, just wish they were sold separately. I haven't used any of my adjustable angle sharpeners in years since getting the Sharpmaker.
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Sal with the 50th year anniversary of your sharpmaker approaching, What are your thoughts a special version? Are you guys working on anything? Would there be anything you would improve or change for a special elite version or just a generational upgrade to a 205?
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For a special edition, I think a metal box and base would be really cool. Aluminum maybe. I don't think it would be worth it for one run from a business standpoint, but it would be super cool from a user/fan of the product. Kind of a collector's addition. Though personally, I would use the heck out it.
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That would be right up my alley tooJSumm wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:57 pmFor a special edition, I think a metal box and base would be really cool. Aluminum maybe. I don't think it would be worth it for one run from a business standpoint, but it would be super cool from a user/fan of the product. Kind of a collector's addition. Though personally, I would use the heck out it.
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Re: Sharpmaker Elite Edition
Ah, now this makes sense. You want to totate around the other axis. Sorry.jasonstone20 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:09 amSenfkarte,
yes, you can tilt the Sharpmaker also. I am talking about rotating the base.
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I voted no.
In this day and age of “super steels”, I think a set of coarse & fine Diamond (or CBN) rods should be a MUCH higher priority.
In this day and age of “super steels”, I think a set of coarse & fine Diamond (or CBN) rods should be a MUCH higher priority.
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If we’re just talking an anniversary special edition, I would def be all for a metal case like JSumm suggested. If it’s a new design for the anniversary being discussed I’d like to say that seeing aspects of all three of the current sharpeners would be cool. Maybe a standard Sharpmaker base with all new slots that could accept both triangle the stones like the original as well as the cats eye stones like the gauntlet, and an additional 10dps slot like the Galley V. I voted yes for the poll because I’d love the option of any angle too.
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Ditto what PStone said
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A fully-articulated base to hold either triangular or cat’s-eye rods at different angles and orientations would be a wonderful product, but so niche as to be a lot business decision.
Adding adjustability adds cost, complexity, and potential confusion. In my own experience I have found that rods wiggle a bit in the plastic bases and I’d love a clamping base to eliminate any movement there. But I’m a weirdo afi who cares more than most, and every degree of adjustability adds cost and most people don’t care about it as much as I do.
Since I’m quite comfortable freehand sharpening plain edges on bench stones, my incentive to prototype a super duper adjustable base is reduced. What I would love to buy from Spyderco is brown (medium) rods for the Galley Vee. My irreplaceable use for the Sharpmaker is for maintaining and reprofiling serrated knives.
Adding adjustability adds cost, complexity, and potential confusion. In my own experience I have found that rods wiggle a bit in the plastic bases and I’d love a clamping base to eliminate any movement there. But I’m a weirdo afi who cares more than most, and every degree of adjustability adds cost and most people don’t care about it as much as I do.
Since I’m quite comfortable freehand sharpening plain edges on bench stones, my incentive to prototype a super duper adjustable base is reduced. What I would love to buy from Spyderco is brown (medium) rods for the Galley Vee. My irreplaceable use for the Sharpmaker is for maintaining and reprofiling serrated knives.
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I’d like it if there was a if there was a version of the sharpmaker that came with the diamond and CBN rods by default instead of the ceramic ones.
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Re: Sharpmaker Elite Edition
No problem, I wasn't really clear what I meant. I assumed that everyone was familiar already with this idea and technique, that is my fault for assuming.Senfkarte wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:49 pmAh, now this makes sense. You want to totate around the other axis. Sorry.jasonstone20 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:09 amSenfkarte,
yes, you can tilt the Sharpmaker also. I am talking about rotating the base.
"Gotta love living in 2019 baby, (63rc too soft on a production knife)"
--Shawn Houston
"I am still discussing issues of steels and performance at this stage."
--Cliff Stamp, May his memory be a blessing
"Cause geometry cuts, .....steel determines the level and the duration"
--Roman Landes
"Life is GOOD!"
--Stefan Wolf, May his memory be a blessing
--Ken Schwartz, May his memory be a blessing
"But in general, I'm all about high performance, Ergos, safety. That's why I've been accused of 'designing in the dark' "
--Sal Glesser
--Shawn Houston
"I am still discussing issues of steels and performance at this stage."
--Cliff Stamp, May his memory be a blessing
"Cause geometry cuts, .....steel determines the level and the duration"
--Roman Landes
"Life is GOOD!"
--Stefan Wolf, May his memory be a blessing
--Ken Schwartz, May his memory be a blessing
"But in general, I'm all about high performance, Ergos, safety. That's why I've been accused of 'designing in the dark' "
--Sal Glesser
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Re: Sharpmaker Elite Edition
Maybe an all-Diamond/CBN set of rods for the 'Special Version'? Like a C, M, and F set of Diamond or CBN rods? That would be nice to have. Personally, I feel the setup now is fine, as having the C Diamond/CBN rods for the large amount of work forming the burr, and then the sintered ceramic Tri-Angle rods in M, F, and UF, given they are clean and properly conditioned (I like using Wet/Dry SiC sandpaper), to refine and diminish the burr. They should cut most cutlery steels easily with no issue. Maybe with Maxamet or 10V, 15V, and high carbide steels like those, it might not be the most practical, however. I like using a little drop of mineral oil/baby oil, or dish soap on the ceramic rods to keep them clean and cutting and to greatly reduce the chance of small metal particulates in the air, which you do not want to breathe in. If you have a respirator, I would sharpen with that on, to be honest.
"Gotta love living in 2019 baby, (63rc too soft on a production knife)"
--Shawn Houston
"I am still discussing issues of steels and performance at this stage."
--Cliff Stamp, May his memory be a blessing
"Cause geometry cuts, .....steel determines the level and the duration"
--Roman Landes
"Life is GOOD!"
--Stefan Wolf, May his memory be a blessing
--Ken Schwartz, May his memory be a blessing
"But in general, I'm all about high performance, Ergos, safety. That's why I've been accused of 'designing in the dark' "
--Sal Glesser
--Shawn Houston
"I am still discussing issues of steels and performance at this stage."
--Cliff Stamp, May his memory be a blessing
"Cause geometry cuts, .....steel determines the level and the duration"
--Roman Landes
"Life is GOOD!"
--Stefan Wolf, May his memory be a blessing
--Ken Schwartz, May his memory be a blessing
"But in general, I'm all about high performance, Ergos, safety. That's why I've been accused of 'designing in the dark' "
--Sal Glesser
Re: Sharpmaker Elite Edition
I agree with Haunted House, with the new supersteels priority for additional CBM or diamond rods should take precedence.Haunted House wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:55 pmI voted no.
In this day and age of “super steels”, I think a set of coarse & fine Diamond (or CBN) rods should be a MUCH higher priority.
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Sorry, a double post.