A full size Native slipjoint?

[ChrisinHove]

This is the original prototype, apparently!

[cjk]

What type of clip would be preferred?

sal

Wire clip.

IMHO, the wire clip makes for a more handsome knife because there aren't a lot of extra clip screw holes that don't get used.

The availability of a variant with teeth is more important to me than the clip type.

[Manixguy@1994]

This is the original prototype, apparently!

Nice ! Thank you for sharing . It makes me rethink the clip possibilities . Looks clean without the tip down position . Dan

[Roefisher]

A good looking knife, isn't it! And that's even allowing for my thinking it looks a bit weird with the bare blade.

Cheers to Chris for the pic - much appreciated. I think it helps us to get an idea of what we're looking for and maybe spot some some tweaks / changes?

Mark

[Roefisher]

After several day's carry and getting well used to it, something I like on the Lil' Native slipjoint is the fact it doesn't have a half-stop. But I'm in two minds if I like it just because, or because it is a small knife and the half-stop might be clumsy on such a small / tight blade swing?

So, I took out the UKPK and tried opening and closing it a few times beside the Lil' Native. I'm still leaning very slightly towards choosing no half-stop. I'm not sure what the general opinion is on this but, from trying the two side-by-side, I think I enjoy one smooth blade swing better.

Mark

[Tristan_david2001]

I enjoy my slip joints with a lockback on them

[James Y]

After several day's carry and getting well used to it, something I like on the Lil' Native slipjoint is the fact it doesn't have a half-stop. But I'm in two minds if I like it just because, or because it is a small knife and the half-stop might be clumsy on such a small / tight blade swing?

So, I took out the UKPK and tried opening and closing it a few times beside the Lil' Native. I'm still leaning very slightly towards choosing no half-stop. I'm not sure what the general opinion is on this but, from trying the two side-by-side, I think I enjoy one smooth blade swing better.

Mark

The only Spyderco slipjoint I own is my UKPK Salt, and I like its half-stop. I view it as simply a slight safety feature, in addition to using the choil. OTOH, I suppose I wouldn’t mind it without the half-stop; especially if a knife were much smaller.

One thing I’ve wondered, which may sound silly, is this: Does a half-stop create more accelerated wear between the blade tang and the back spring? I know I have SAKs that have a half-stop for the large screwdriver/cap lifter tool that have been used for years and haven’t worn noticeably any more than the other, smooth-opening blades/tools. But Victorinox has been doing slip joints for over a century.

I’m simply wondering about how a half-stop might affect spring tension or wear over time (versus a smooth opening/closing action) on a Spyderco slip joint.

Jim

[anycal]

As a big fan of the UKPK, and even bigger fan of the Native 5, I say yes. G10 with wire clip would be awesome.

I prefer the wire clip in this small size category. Actually, of the small models I have, more have the wire clip already.

I had the Caly 3 vs Native 5 debate a few times. Native and its rampless blade wins more often. Honestly, not sure if slip Native could beat the UKPK. Only one way to find out.

I like that prototype.

[Roefisher]

^^^ A great side-by-side picture there ^^^

For me, it shows off the benefits you'd get from the Native. A deeper blade and handle for starters. Of course, as well as the depth, you'd have the extra thickness too which would make for a sturdy comfortable gripper while still being totally practical.

Nothing beats experience but I can honestly see a Native being every bit as good as the UKPK and, in some ways, probably even better again.

Mark

[Manixguy@1994]

As a big fan of the UKPK, and even bigger fan of the Native 5, I say yes. G10 with wire clip would be awesome.

I prefer the wire clip in this small size category. Actually, of the small models I have, more have the wire clip already.

I had the Caly 3 vs Native 5 debate a few times. Native and its rampless blade wins more often. Honestly, not sure if slip Native could beat the UKPK. Only one way to find out.

I like that prototype.

I agree the rampless blade is a big plus for me . I really do like the UKPK slim factor and find it a great knife too . MG2

[vivi]

I'm not really in the market for a small slipjoint, but as another data point I'll say the Native handle works a little better for me than the Caly 3 / UKPK.

Both are very ergonomic, but the lack of a thumb ramp and the taller handle give the Native an edge for my grip.

If I were going to buy one I'd prefer no half stop. Back when I carried a UKPK as an EDC I felt the crisp action when fully opened and the index choil were safe enough on their own.

[electro-static]

I'm not really in the market for a small slipjoint, but as another data point I'll say the Native handle works a little better for me than the Caly 3 / UKPK.

Both are very ergonomic, but the lack of a thumb ramp and the taller handle give the Native an edge for my grip.

If I were going to buy one I'd prefer no half stop. Back when I carried a UKPK as an EDC I felt the crisp action when fully opened and the index choil were safe enough on their own.

I’d be on the side of giving it a crisp half stop as a safety feature. Having a nice “walk and talk” also appeals to American slipjoint enthusiasts and people who like to fidget with their knives. I know that a huge criticism of the bechmade proper was how mushy it’s backspring and half stop were.

[1penge]

I have both the Native S90V CF & the red G10 Heinnie Haynes S30V drop point.

The CF Native has a much more comfortable handle than the HH S30V, which is rather "boxy" affair by comparison. The form factor of a smooth liner-less CF or G10 handle, with the Native's tried & true blade shape, in a slip-joint format, would IMHO be a match made in heaven.

I'd order one in a flash in any decent blade steel.

[Mushroom]

While I wouldn’t have immediate interest in a Native 5 slipjoint, I do have the Lil Native slipjoint and the smooth uninterrupted opening action feels really good. It feels a lot like the accustomed backlock model. For the Native 5, to me, a half stop would be unnecessary.

[ChrisinHove]

While I wouldn’t have immediate interest in a Native 5 slipjoint, I do have the Lil Native slipjoint and the smooth uninterrupted opening action feels really good. It feels a lot like the accustomed backlock model. For the Native 5, to me, a half stop would be unnecessary.

I agree.

[cjk]

I'm not really in the market for a small slipjoint, but as another data point I'll say the Native handle works a little better for me than the Caly 3 / UKPK.

Both are very ergonomic, but the lack of a thumb ramp and the taller handle give the Native an edge for my grip.

If I were going to buy one I'd prefer no half stop. Back when I carried a UKPK as an EDC I felt the crisp action when fully opened and the index choil were safe enough on their own.

Are you able to get a 4 finger grip on a Native 5 using the choil? I would have thought that'd be too small for you.

[Roefisher]

You know what I was thinking about this one today?

Would it not be some launch to make this one with Cobalt Blue G-10 scales and SPY27 Spyderco's signature steel. A brand new design (never made yet - But Para 3 and PM2 upcoming) for a brand new knife.

Mark

[Flash]

Blue G10 and Spy27 would be amazing!

The more I use Spy27, the more I like it. Takes a hair popping edge very easily and keeps hold of it well too.

…and Cobalt Blue G10 would just be the icing on the cake.

[JoviAl]

I would LOVE one of these in any permutation of steel/handle colour/clip. I really like the UKPK and am really looking forward to the Magnacut salt variant arriving, but a Native slip joint would be the ideal small woods folder for hiking in the UK. My wife’s family live in Scotland and it always irks me that my only option for (legal) carry apart from the UKPK in the 3” range is a SAK. Please, put us poor Brits out of our misery and make an awesome chunky brother to the UKPK I believe we have multiple pockets in trousers for this exact reason - UKPK up front, Native in the back, hot to trot

[kobold]

I couldn't think of a better candidate for a slipjoint than the Native, it's my favorite three inch Spyderco.

I would be happy with any of the mentioned steels, CW, Spy27, MC, and lets throw XHP and good old S30V in the hat.

I strongly agree with 1penge re contoured scales, it's an already proven ergonomic enhancement. Green (olive or racing or digi camo) or red (terracotta or burgundy) G10, and deep carry wire clip...

A knife like that would open my wallet, even though I am perfectly happy with my PITS (my slipjoint grail) and I can carry locking knives in my jurisdiction.