Be Careful W/Cuffs!

[Jimd]

Another officer was assaulted today. Seems they were taking the handcuffs off of an inmate. Got one cuff off the wrist when the inmate freaked out and attacked the officer, using the sharp, open handcuff arm to strike the officer in the head several times.

Guys, be on your guard when you're taking those handcuffs off! Stand to the side and keep a firm grip on the loose cuff!



The CO seems to be doing well, though his head looks as if someone cut his hair with a hedge trimmer after consuming three pots of coffee.



The inmate was dealt with appropriately.

[pjrocco]

oooo.. Ouch... Hope he recovers with no problems.

I usually don't have the problem since the only time I take handcuffs off is in the bedroom.. :D :p :D

Oops, did I say that out loud?

[Jimd]

In the bedroom?! That's where you REALLY have to be careful!

[Echo63]

yep - be really careful in the bedroom - make sure you have a spare key!

sorry to hear about your workmate - its a crap job and you guys have a lot of respect from me for what you put up with.

thanks for doing your job and keeping the scumbags of the streets

[David Lowry]

Jim,

That stinks man. Glad he's OK.

Question:
How would it be if the next time someone took the cuffs off of an inmate they shoved a .45 in their mouth first?.....or a shotgun under their chin? ....or a shotgun in their crotch?

Can you do that? Would it help?

Peace,
David

[Stormdrane]

I like my thumb cuffs. You can exert alot of control with just one thumb cuffed, and if they don't follow your lead, 'snap' broken thumb. But I guess that's also why LEOs aren't allowed to use 'em.

[The Deacon]

Well Jim, as Roy Horn learned the hard way, you can take the animal out of the wild, but you can't take the wild out of the animal. Hope the CO involved is not seriously injured and recovers quickly.

[DAYWALKER]

Another officer was assaulted today. Seems they were taking the handcuffs off of an inmate. Got one cuff off the wrist when the inmate freaked out and attacked the officer, using the sharp, open handcuff arm to strike the officer in the head several times.

Guys, be on your guard when you're taking those handcuffs off! Stand to the side and keep a firm grip on the loose cuff!

Aloha JimD,

****, I hope the CO is alright. ya know, I prevented an inmate from assaulting a veteran CO my first year on the job. Long story short, the "vet" placed his cuffs on a visit room seat while he was trying to control an *psycho*. Psycho grabbed his cuffs with the teeth part jutting out between his fingers. Got there in a blink...but it surpirised me that a "veteran" would do such a thing?!!

I ALWAYS turn the key the opposite way *first*...which does nothing, but it does give me some sort of indication on how the perp is gonna/will react. I have had some perps suddenly jerk, as they thought I unlocked them, since I turned the key...I tell 'em, "Whoa!!! Pump the brakes man, pump the brakes! What's your hurry sir?" :mad: There went their plan of an assault, or whatever they were thinking...

There are times when I know certain CO's get irritated 'cause I *never* rush an un-cuffing, but hey, I think it has prevented a LOT of nasty things from occuring...Besides, what's the rush? :confused:

God bless Jim, and 360IJN my friend... :cool:

[dialex]

Where's this world going to? :mad: Hopefully your partner will recover fast and will be more careful next time.
I remember when I was in the army an instructor showed us a few tricks with the handcuffs. Quite spectacular, but since we were not actually using handcuffs, I didn't pay much attention to the technique(s).

[dialex]

oooo.. Ouch... Hope he recovers with no problems.

I usually don't have the problem since the only time I take handcuffs off is in the bedroom.. :D :p :D

Oops, did I say that out loud?

Any of you guys used to play "Leisure suit Larry"? In "Love for Sail" there's an intro with Larry and a couple handcuffs he's tied to that bed by that gorgeous girl. :D Well, not that gorgeous, all she wanted was his wallet
But you can see there what to do (or what NOT to do) to get uncuffed

[Jimd]

Jim,

That stinks man. Glad he's OK.

Question:
How would it be if the next time someone took the cuffs off of an inmate they shoved a .45 in their mouth first?.....or a shotgun under their chin? ....or a shotgun in their crotch?

Can you do that? Would it help?

Peace,
David

Well, David, I certainly like your approach to Progressive Correctional Attitude Modification.

Would the firearms help? I'm certain they would! Could I use that technique? Not unless it was under riot conditions. In PA, corrections is SO **** liberal, you wouldn't even believe half the stories I told you unless you saw them yourself.

[Jimd]

Deacon...believe it or not, were I left to my own devices, I absolutely could take the "wild out of the animal". Matter of fact, I've done it in the past. These days, however, my methods would land me in a smidgin of hot water. But truly I say, there's nothing like helping a young man discover the wonders of figuring out that he doesn't always have to try to kill officers and be nasty to every living soul that comes near him. It's magical to see him brighten into a polite person who addresses everyone as "sir" or "Ma'am".

Chad...love the "wrong way key turn" technique, and I'm going to incorporate that, not only in my own reportoire, but also in the classes that I teach. NICE!

Thanks, guys, for letting me vent.

[sgt]

Handcuffs can inflict serious damage when used in this manner. Sort of a dull but deadly hawkbill... (Sorry Dr. L...) Your friend is fortunate.

You and DW need to be careful in there!

[DAYWALKER]

Aloha JimD,

Yup, that "TurnKey Technique" works man...I had some perps fall like them proverbial "Ton O' Bricks" while I was removing their leg shackles. :mad: See, once they "feel" the key turn, some think they can jerk and run or attack. Thing is, as mentioned, I turn the key the wrong way first, so it ain't even close to being unlocked! :p

Far and few, but it does happen...perps front cuffed, TKT (TurnKey Technique), they suddenly jerk back or swing. They end up kissing the ground. Back cuffed perps: TKT, they too, jerk their arms, sometimes wait for their legs, and boy, do they end up sitting down rather quick.

Take care Jim, and mahalo sgt! God bless :cool:

[dialex]

Now I wonder... I've seent this trick in some movies. There's this guy getting cuffed, and in a couple seconds, with a quick wrist motion, he releases himself (usually it's the good guy who does this) :rolleyes:
Is it true? Can this be done (uncuffing yourself by just moving your wrists)? And what's the technique? :confused:

[DAYWALKER]

Now I wonder... I've seent this trick in some movies. There's this guy getting cuffed, and in a couple seconds, with a quick wrist motion, he releases himself (usually it's the good guy who does this) :rolleyes:
Is it true? Can this be done (uncuffing yourself by just moving your wrists)? And what's the technique? :confused:

Aloha Knifebro,

Nope. never seen it happen in *real life* :p Who knows though...I bet with your guns you could simply break the chain or hinge depending on the cuff style!

God bless :cool:

[Dr. Snubnose]

Daywalker: Good thinking bout turning the cuff keys the wrong way first...that should give you an indication of the detained person intentions...I train my people to cuff and uncuff when the perp is either prone or kneeling, if you must do it standing remember to maintain control through the cuff that still remains on his other wrist( in uncuffing procedure)...a simple flex twist of the cuff between your index finger and thumb will put enough pressure on the persons ulna and radial nerves as the cuff is mashed into his wrist bones...seem to calm the most agitated down quickly....Doc

[DAYWALKER]

Daywalker: Good thinking bout turning the cuff keys the wrong way first...that should give you an indication of the detained person intentions...I train my people to cuff and uncuff when the perp is either prone or kneeling, if you must do it standing remember to maintain control through the cuff that still remains on his other wrist( in uncuffing procedure)...a simple flex twist of the cuff between your index finger and thumb will put enough pressure on the persons ulna and radial nerves as the cuff is mashed into his wrist bones...seem to calm the most agitated down quickly....Doc

Mahalo Doc,

I'll keep that one in mind. Thanks also for agreeing with my "TKT"...that means a lot to me sir!

God bless :cool:

[dialex]

[quote="DAYWALKER"]I bet with your guns you could simply break the chain or hinge depending on the cuff style! ]

Dunno, never been cuffed before (please don't let anyone know about Roxanne, this one doesn't count here). :p OTOH, considering she took my wallet then, and I wasn't able to break the cuffs, I guess no, I can't