C-60 Ayoob Campaign: No I Won't Shut Up

[mark greenman]

Thanks for info , much appreciated. Love this knife ! MG2

Awesome pocket clip, who makes it? Does the circle cutout help when drawing the knife?

[Airlsee]

Awesome pocket clip, who makes it? Does the circle cutout help when drawing the knife?

You weren't asking me...but it's a long LynchNW clip and yeah the hole can help in retrieval, although I think it's mainly for screw access.
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Great picture Dan!

[Manixguy@1994]

Awesome pocket clip, who makes it? Does the circle cutout help when drawing the knife?

You weren't asking me...but it's a long LynchNW clip and yeah the hole can help in retrieval, although I think it's mainly for screw access.
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Great picture Dan!

No worries! Appreciate taking time to help another . Dan

[blueblur]

I’m still really enjoying my SE. it’s been the only thing I’ve carried since I received it short of a few days while I was out of town because some clip screws were coming loose. Very happy with the quality of the fit and finish.

[ovgcguy]

After taking this knife camping twice I am missing my high chrome stainless.

Just for your information if you are able to get one of the older C-60 Ayoob models with VG-10 blade steel
However I do believe that there has to be a way to prevent corrosion on your Cruwear model. The product from Sentry Solutions known as "TUF CLOTH" I think could be the solution to the problem. They also have a "Marine Grade TUF CLOTH" that I've personally had great luck with.

I acutally have the #19 OG ayoob in VG10, but between the incredibly slick Alumite scales, stickier action with no adjustment, and and only Tip Down carry I never fell in love with it the same way as the G10/Smooth/Tip up Ayoob resurrection. The Resurrection is better in all ways except non-stainless steel and the stupid snaggletooth on the SE. I'm actually trying to bring myself to sell the OG to fund other hobbies as now its just a safe queen.

Its just me, but I've decided I hate non-stainless. Im not a lazy knife owner and am reasonably good about cleaning my blades, but the Cruwear got more spotting just sitting on my nightstand for a few days with what appears to be a clean blade in mostly dry weather. I just never want to worry about rust on my pocket knives. its annoying to me to have to be anal about cleaning and oiling it. (although I know from reading here, plenty of people dont mind carbon steels, I just prefer ease of use over any performance differences carbon steel offers.)

I will try that cloth you recommended. Thanks for that idea.

A family of Ayoobs -
https://imgur.com/a/EyAmAV7

[JD Spydo]

There are things you can do to make that older almite handle much better. Not sure why Sal picked Cruwear for this particular Sprint Run. Myself just the fact that it takes an extremely sharp plain edge nicely and it's also great for serrated blades as well. Not sure what else to tell you about preventing staining on your Cruwear blade. So far I've not had any of those problems with the blades on my C-60 Sprint Runs. I am careful about keeping them clean and maintained.

I'm hoping that more of the guys will like the overall performance of Cruwear. Maybe I should start a thread on how the guys rate it performance wise. Because I think this thread has just about ran out of gas for the time being. I was hoping that Spyderco would consider putting this model back in production again especially with all the guys liking this model as much as they do. But I understand a company's strategy to go ahead with their new stuff too. Overall I think this Sprint Run has been a solid success.

[mark greenman]

After taking this knife camping twice I am missing my high chrome stainless.

Just for your information if you are able to get one of the older C-60 Ayoob models with VG-10 blade steel
However I do believe that there has to be a way to prevent corrosion on your Cruwear model. The product from Sentry Solutions known as "TUF CLOTH" I think could be the solution to the problem. They also have a "Marine Grade TUF CLOTH" that I've personally had great luck with.

I acutally have the #19 OG ayoob in VG10, but between the incredibly slick Alumite scales, stickier action with no adjustment, and and only Tip Down carry I never fell in love with it the same way as the G10/Smooth/Tip up Ayoob resurrection. The Resurrection is better in all ways except non-stainless steel and the stupid snaggletooth on the SE. I'm actually trying to bring myself to sell the OG to fund other hobbies as now its just a safe queen.

Its just me, but I've decided I hate non-stainless. Im not a lazy knife owner and am reasonably good about cleaning my blades, but the Cruwear got more spotting just sitting on my nightstand for a few days with what appears to be a clean blade in mostly dry weather. I just never want to worry about rust on my pocket knives. its annoying to me to have to be anal about cleaning and oiling it. (although I know from reading here, plenty of people dont mind carbon steels, I just prefer ease of use over any performance differences carbon steel offers.)

I will try that cloth you recommended. Thanks for that idea.

A family of Ayoobs -
https://imgur.com/a/EyAmAV7

I recommend Hornady One Shot. Its a dry lubricant and powerful rust preventative. You spray it on, the solvent evaporates, and whats left is the steel is coated in a dry, pretty long lasting lubricating/rust blocking dry film.

It outperformed virtually everything in preventing rust, and I've found it works wonderfully for keeping knives and multitools lubed without attracting dust:

https://dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667



Just spray it on every sunday and you should be good against basically anything short of living on a boat.

[JD Spydo]

After taking this knife camping twice I am missing my high chrome stainless.

Just for your information if you are able to get one of the older C-60 Ayoob models with VG-10 blade steel
However I do believe that there has to be a way to prevent corrosion on your Cruwear model. The product from Sentry Solutions known as "TUF CLOTH" I think could be the solution to the problem. They also have a "Marine Grade TUF CLOTH" that I've personally had great luck with.

I acutally have the #19 OG ayoob in VG10, but between the incredibly slick Alumite scales, stickier action with no adjustment, and and only Tip Down carry I never fell in love with it the same way as the G10/Smooth/Tip up Ayoob resurrection. The Resurrection is better in all ways except non-stainless steel and the stupid snaggletooth on the SE. I'm actually trying to bring myself to sell the OG to fund other hobbies as now its just a safe queen.

Its just me, but I've decided I hate non-stainless. Im not a lazy knife owner and am reasonably good about cleaning my blades, but the Cruwear got more spotting just sitting on my nightstand for a few days with what appears to be a clean blade in mostly dry weather. I just never want to worry about rust on my pocket knives. its annoying to me to have to be anal about cleaning and oiling it. (although I know from reading here, plenty of people dont mind carbon steels, I just prefer ease of use over any performance differences carbon steel offers.)

I will try that cloth you recommended. Thanks for that idea.

A family of Ayoobs -
https://imgur.com/a/EyAmAV7

I recommend Hornady One Shot. Its a dry lubricant and powerful rust preventative. You spray it on, the solvent evaporates, and whats left is the steel is coated in a dry, pretty long lasting lubricating/rust blocking dry film.

It outperformed virtually everything in preventing rust, and I've found it works wonderfully for keeping knives and multitools lubed without attracting dust:

https://dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667



Just spray it on every sunday and you should be good against basically anything short of living on a boat.

Mark I've noticed that they have made a lot of progress with dry lubes in the past 5 to 7 years. I use a dry lube made by Sentry Solutions and I've had great results with it. The Sentry Solutions product is known as "BP-2000" and one small bottle goes a long way.

Many of the newer dry lubes are either based with Teflon type compounds or another super lube known as PTFE. I'll definitely check out that "Hornady One Shot". With wet lubes I've yet to find anything better than Militec. But I do agree that dry lubes are the way to go if you want to preserve your tools.

[TheGiant80]

Don’t hate me JD Spydo but I think I’m going to let my Ayoob SE go unfortunately. Another knife has caught my eye and I can’t afford to have both.

[JD Spydo]

Don’t hate me JD Spydo but I think I’m going to let my Ayoob SE go unfortunately. Another knife has caught my eye and I can’t afford to have both.

No problem at all. No hard feelings. The C-60 Ayoob certainly isn't for everybody. But there are sure plenty of knife enthusiasts that do love the model.

If I didn't have an M390 Military or C-60 Ayoob I would be carrying one of my PM2 models. And if I were in a place in the USA that had draconian, super strict knife laws I would be carrying either a Dodo model or one of Spyderco's other great short bladed models. No I didn't expect the entire forum to get excited about this Sprint Run. But there sure were a lot of guys who got one of these Cruwear C-60 Ayoob models. There's no one certain knife that works for everyone.

[TheGiant80]

Don’t hate me JD Spydo but I think I’m going to let my Ayoob SE go unfortunately. Another knife has caught my eye and I can’t afford to have both.

No problem at all. No hard feelings. The C-60 Ayoob certainly isn't for everybody. But there are sure plenty of knife enthusiasts that do love the model.

If I didn't have an M390 Military or C-60 Ayoob I would be carrying one of my PM2 models. And if I were in a place in the USA that had draconian, super strict knife laws I would be carrying either a Dodo model or one of Spyderco's other great short bladed models. No I didn't expect the entire forum to get excited about this Sprint Run. But there sure were a lot of guys who got one of these Cruwear C-60 Ayoob models. There's no one certain knife that works for everyone.

To be clear, I love the Ayoob model. I’m not getting rid of it because I don’t enjoy it. That’s far from the reason. Here’s the issue: the Lum Tanto is perfection. For my preferences it appears to be the ideal pocket knife. Everything about it rules. And since money is tight, something from the small collection I’ve got has to go. I figured there might be some interest in the C-60 SE so unfortunately it’s on the chopping block..

[Manixguy@1994]

Don’t hate me JD Spydo but I think I’m going to let my Ayoob SE go unfortunately. Another knife has caught my eye and I can’t afford to have both.

No problem at all. No hard feelings. The C-60 Ayoob certainly isn't for everybody. But there are sure plenty of knife enthusiasts that do love the model.

If I didn't have an M390 Military or C-60 Ayoob I would be carrying one of my PM2 models. And if I were in a place in the USA that had draconian, super strict knife laws I would be carrying either a Dodo model or one of Spyderco's other great short bladed models. No I didn't expect the entire forum to get excited about this Sprint Run. But there sure were a lot of guys who got one of these Cruwear C-60 Ayoob models. There's no one certain knife that works for everyone.

I always appreciate your polite candidness Joe , well said . MG2

[JD Spydo]

Don’t hate me JD Spydo but I think I’m going to let my Ayoob SE go unfortunately. Another knife has caught my eye and I can’t afford to have both.

No problem at all. No hard feelings. The C-60 Ayoob certainly isn't for everybody. But there are sure plenty of knife enthusiasts that do love the model.

If I didn't have an M390 Military or C-60 Ayoob I would be carrying one of my PM2 models. And if I were in a place in the USA that had draconian, super strict knife laws I would be carrying either a Dodo model or one of Spyderco's other great short bladed models. No I didn't expect the entire forum to get excited about this Sprint Run. But there sure were a lot of guys who got one of these Cruwear C-60 Ayoob models. There's no one certain knife that works for everyone.

I always appreciate your polite candidness Joe , well said . MG2

Thank you for your kind words Manixguy. But like I was telling the guy that the C-60 Ayoob is truly a specialty type blade that not everyone appreciates>> or would have much use for. The C-60 Ayoob is almost perfect for the types of cutting chores I usually encounter. Not to mention that it would be an ideal self defense blade if you are unfortunate enough to ever have to use a blade to protect yourself.

But even though I deem the C-60 to be the best Self Defense blade I've ever had I still would not take a knife to a gun fight. Knives truly have their limitations, even the very best of them.

I've also found the C-60 to be a nearly perfect hunter/folder. It is also a great folder to take on fishing trips. I've found the C-60 to be great for cleaning fish and other wild game. Every person knows their own needs. And unless you have very reasonable knife laws like we have in Missouri ( 4 inch limit on folders) it might be too long to EDC for a lot of guys depending on the jurisdiction you live under.

[resonanzmacher]

Many of the newer dry lubes are either based with Teflon type compounds or another super lube known as PTFE. I'll definitely check out that "Hornady One Shot". With wet lubes I've yet to find anything better than Militec. But I do agree that dry lubes are the way to go if you want to preserve your tools.

PTFE or polytetrafluoroethylene is a generic non -trademarked chemical name for Teflon. The patent for Teflon was granted during WWII and has long ago expired, but DuPont still maintains Teflon as a trademark, so anyone who hasn't paid a fee to DuPont has to call it PTFE or DuPont's lawyers will do their thing.


One last note: PTFE is made with a precursor chemical called perfluorooctanoic acid or PFOA that's a suspected carcinogen. Properly made Teflon is free of PFOA in the final product, but if PTFE is not made exactly to the DuPont spec some PFOA can hang out in the final product.... so if you're worried about getting cancer, it's probably worth a little more money to make sure you're buying a well made product and not just the most economical one when it comes to PTFE lube.

[resonanzmacher]

But like I was telling the guy that the C-60 Ayoob is truly a specialty type blade that not everyone appreciates>> or would have much use for.

I think you've hit on something important here -- it can be hard to understand what makes the Ayoob different and special, unless you maybe know a little bit more than the average bear about knives.

The way I see it, the Ayoob is like Leonard Cohen. Lotta people who listen to music have no idea who Leonard Cohen is, whereas his music is seen almost reverentially by many people who play music for a living. Take 1000 people going to shop for CDs someplace, you're probably lucky if 1 of them will be shopping for a Leonard Cohen CD. Fill the bins at the front of the store with Leonard Cohen CDs and most people will walk right on by. But if you take 1000 musicians who are shopping for a CD, you will find a BUNCH of people who will be able to wax ecstatic about the man and his music. They know exactly what they're listening to and can appreciate its comparative rarity and excellence.

Same thing with the Ayoob. Was there an awesome response to the Ayoob sprint in this thread? Yes! Are people here giving the Ayoob top marks? Yes! Are people here able to tell you just what they like about it, why it's different, and what the differences mean? Also yes! But we're self selected knife nuts that are also fans of a knife company known for paying attention to ergonomics and for making some odd looking knives that turn out to be really useful tools; we are the people you'd want to come find if you wanted to hear good stuff about the Ayoob, because we're going to appreciate what makes it different. To other people, the Ayoob is going to seem weird and expensive and the high speed low drag serration style might just be taken for a half-assed way to serrate a knife when compared to blades with a crisper, more angular style to the serration. They'll walk right past the Ayoobs on their way to grab a Bugout or a Malibu or something trendier and easier to appreciate.

Just the way things are, I think.

[JD Spydo]

Many of the newer dry lubes are either based with Teflon type compounds or another super lube known as PTFE. I'll definitely check out that "Hornady One Shot". With wet lubes I've yet to find anything better than Militec. But I do agree that dry lubes are the way to go if you want to preserve your tools.

PTFE or polytetrafluoroethylene is a generic non -trademarked chemical name for Teflon. The patent for Teflon was granted during WWII and has long ago expired, but DuPont still maintains Teflon as a trademark, so anyone who hasn't paid a fee to DuPont has to call it PTFE or DuPont's lawyers will do their thing.


One last note: PTFE is made with a precursor chemical called perfluorooctanoic acid or PFOA that's a suspected carcinogen. Properly made Teflon is free of PFOA in the final product, but if PTFE is not made exactly to the DuPont spec some PFOA can hang out in the final product.... so if you're worried about getting cancer, it's probably worth a little more money to make sure you're buying a well made product and not just the most economical one when it comes to PTFE lube.

Thanks for the clarification between brand name Dupont Teflon and it's cousin PTFE. In past few years I've seen PTFE listed in many automotive products. I've even seen PTFE listed in a couple of wet lubes in the past year or so. Don't know the active ingredients in Sentry Solutions product "BP-2000" but it sure works good. It works much better than traditional graphite it seems. Overall it seems that lubrications are getting better all the time with these newer technologies.

Not sure if Spyderco recommends a certain type of oil or dry lube on many of their folding knives. It would probably be hard to go with just one with all the newer products that have come on the market.

[JD Spydo]

Don’t hate me JD Spydo but I think I’m going to let my Ayoob SE go unfortunately. Another knife has caught my eye and I can’t afford to have both.

No problem at all. No hard feelings. The C-60 Ayoob certainly isn't for everybody. But there are sure plenty of knife enthusiasts that do love the model.

If I didn't have an M390 Military or C-60 Ayoob I would be carrying one of my PM2 models. And if I were in a place in the USA that had draconian, super strict knife laws I would be carrying either a Dodo model or one of Spyderco's other great short bladed models. No I didn't expect the entire forum to get excited about this Sprint Run. But there sure were a lot of guys who got one of these Cruwear C-60 Ayoob models. There's no one certain knife that works for everyone.

To be clear, I love the Ayoob model. I’m not getting rid of it because I don’t enjoy it. That’s far from the reason. Here’s the issue: the Lum Tanto is perfection. For my preferences it appears to be the ideal pocket knife. Everything about it rules. And since money is tight, something from the small collection I’ve got has to go. I figured there might be some interest in the C-60 SE so unfortunately it’s on the chopping block..

I find it quite interesting that you prefer the Lum Tanto folder over the C-60 Ayoob. And please I'm not trying to cast dispersions about your personal tastes in knives. Because you can make a "Ford Vs Chevy" argument with any two of Spyderco's premium folders.
I own and sometime carry a C-46 Lum Tanto myself and have owned one since 2005. And I love that particular tanto design because most tanto designs don't do much for me. But as far as overall versatility and being useful for a wide array of cutting chores I find the C-60 Ayoob to be superior. So I'm curious as to why you find the C-46 Lum Tanto folder superior?

Also are there any Cruwear C-60 Ayoobs still available? I predict that by the end of November they will be virtually impossible to find>> and very costly to obtain.

[TheGiant80]

I find it quite interesting that you prefer the Lum Tanto folder over the C-60 Ayoob. And please I'm not trying to cast dispersions about your personal tastes in knives. Because you can make a "Ford Vs Chevy" argument with any two of Spyderco's premium folders.
I own and sometime carry a C-46 Lum Tanto myself and have owned one since 2005. And I love that particular tanto design because most tanto designs don't do much for me. But as far as overall versatility and being useful for a wide array of cutting chores I find the C-60 Ayoob to be superior. So I'm curious as to why you find the C-46 Lum Tanto folder superior?

Also are there any Cruwear C-60 Ayoobs still available? I predict that by the end of November they will be virtually impossible to find>> and very costly to obtain.

Well, BladeHQ decided they can't ship the Lum Tanto to Canada despite the fact it's not an auto and I've ordered from them before, so it appears I'll be keeping/using the Ayoob anyway.

In terms of my preferences, the Lum appears to have a more neutral and roomy grip area. I'm a giant with huge hands so I appreciate such things.

Regardless, the C-60 will be dropped into my pocket this week and I'm sure I'll fall in love with it soon. Your passion for that model is infectious!

:)

[mark greenman]

Looking at an Ayoob review on Youtube, came across this fellow, who had his PE modded with Veff Serrations.

I've never used Veff style SE before, but it sure looks wild.

[Evil D]

I like the Veff serrations but they're even closer to a "wavy plain edge" than my rounded off serrations, or more like a row of small PE hawkbill edges.