why does the lil' native have minimal jimping?

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why does the lil' native have minimal jimping?

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Just like what the subject says. The lil' native is smooth in the finger choil and generally smooth on the spine except for a 3 grooves (jimps?) adjacent to the liner. I'm just curious why the design choice to make this generally smooth. In contrast, the dragonfly, native 5, and shaman have more jimps.
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It’s better that way! ;)
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Mushroom wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:22 am
It’s better that way! ;)
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It should have jimping on fingerchoil. Finish in this knife is very slippy and handle size forces you to grab it with fingerchoil.
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I fail to see how using this knife with the finger choil makes it any more slippier. In fact it's one of the more secure knives out there when gripping it with the choil.
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I would like Jimping on the front and back. It's always good to try different things. But having tried it, I prefer Jimping.
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Seems to be a deliberate design choice when other similarly small models like the Dragonfly has it. Then again you never know what kind of feedback Spyderco has gotten, we forum folks may prefer it but Spyderco may be hearing from a much larger audience that others do not.
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All those nine-fingered old timers who used classic traditional-styled knives with no locks and no jimping for their entire lives. The horror. 😱
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Evil D wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:06 am
Seems to be a deliberate design choice when other similarly small models like the Dragonfly has it. Then again you never know what kind of feedback Spyderco has gotten, we forum folks may prefer it but Spyderco may be hearing from a much larger audience that others do not.
Jimping is just adding cost to it.

I would like to have it in mine but I'm not going to make one with file or apllying some tape like one guy did on aluminium handles in Ayoobs.
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I am okay without it, but if I had my druthers it would have jimping top and bottom like my Cat.
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JRinFL wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:29 am
All those nine-fingered old timers who used classic traditional-styled knives with no locks and no jimping for their entire lives. The horror. 😱
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Doc Dan wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:32 am
I am okay without it, but if I had my druthers it would have jimping top and bottom like my Cat.
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Michal O wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:26 am
Evil D wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:06 am
Seems to be a deliberate design choice when other similarly small models like the Dragonfly has it. Then again you never know what kind of feedback Spyderco has gotten, we forum folks may prefer it but Spyderco may be hearing from a much larger audience that others do not.
Jimping is just adding cost to it.

I would like to have it in mine but I'm not going to make one with file or apllying some tape like one guy did on aluminium handles in Ayoobs.
I don't think it's _just_ adding cost, there's a functional reason to have it. Painting solid gold black for their black clips just adds cost. ;-)
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I have an OG Dragonfly SS that has no jumping and I don’t like it.
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Lack of jimping is a deal breaker for me on models like this. I'm always for more jimping.
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sethwm wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:59 pm
Mushroom wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:22 am
It’s better that way! ;)
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In my experience, Jimping is an easy way to cause a hotspot and subsequently a blister. Especially in extended use. I find the grip of the Lil Native without jimping to be sufficient for all of my needs. In general, I’m not “anti-jimping” but there are just some models I find to be advantageous without it. The Lil Native is one of them.

Although technically, the Lil Native actually does have jimping on the liners and there’s a tiny section of jimping on the spine. It’s minimal but not entirely useless.

Other than personal preference, what reasons are there for the Lil Native needing jimping? Does adding it to the Lil Native offer any advantage?

Still with all that said, the Lil Native Lightweight prototype was shown off with jimping so there will eventually be a Lil Native variant with jimping. I’d still prefer no jimping on the Lil Native LW but it is what it is, I’ll deal with it. I was glad to see the Lil Native Wharncliffe in Reveal 11 does not have any additional jimping.

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sethwm wrote: I don't think it's _just_ adding cost, there's a functional reason to have it. Painting solid gold black for their black clips just adds cost. ;-)
I don't think it adds to the cost much, if at all. Jimping is not added through its own process, it is cut into the blade when the blades themselves are cut from the sheet metal. Jimping will probably increase the overall time to cut all of the blades but probably not by much.
twinboysdad wrote: I have an OG Dragonfly SS that has no jumping and I don’t like it.
Thats funny to me because jimping was the main reason I didn’t like carrying the Dragonfly at work. When I got the Tattoo Dragonfly, I immediately noticed and appreciated the lack of jimping.

I noticed the same thing when I got the Kahr Arms Delica. It didn’t have any jimping and it quickly became one of my favorite work knives because I wasn’t getting hotspots the way I was with my other Delicas.
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I didn't find the factory G10 or lack of jimping on the Lil Native to be inadequate in any way, but when I swapped the scales for Allen Putman's grooved G10s, they improved the handling 100%. The texture really locks the little guy in your hand, even without jimping.
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I miss the jimping, and believe it adds a more premium feel. Without it the lil native just feels unfinished to me, especially compared to the rest of the current Native family. Glad some people like it better.
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The old lockback Manix also had minor jimping and i prefer it to the Manix 2 / XL “overjimping”
Some designs are just so good in hand that jimping is not needed at all.
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My Lil Native is a proper backlock. It is smooth all the way, top and bottom. I like it just fine. However, as I said, if I had my druthers I have jimping, but I am okay either way. It is not a deal breaker for me. There are advantages to both designs, as there are disadvantages.
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