i'm sorry, but this whole post is ridiculous. no one is arguing that you should be able to do whatever you want whenever you want and however you want. no one is asking for anarchy. last i checked, that's a far cry from wanting to carry a pocket knife.Ankerson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:04 amIn society in general there are and always have been rules (laws) and regulations that have to be followed. There always has been and will be someone in charge running things.
Want to live in a civilized society or not?
Freedom is NOT free.
Civilized Society is not a free for all do anything and everything one wants to do anytime they please with no rules and laws.
No one person is the whole world, people really do need to grasp that reality and sooner than later.
Nobody is telling one they can't own a knife, they are just telling one they aren't going to bring it into (enter place here).
Their house their rules.
Reason does not matter.
People have the freedom to choose not to enter whatever place if they don't like it.
here is the problem with your reasoning...
if they don't allow knives because i might stab someone to death, that's an unnecessary rule that inhibits my freedom. there are already reasonable laws that prevent me from stabbing people, regardless of what knife i'm carrying. not allowing people to carry knives is not part of a reasonable law for society because there are a host of other reasons to use a knife that have nothing to do with harming others.
if they don't allow knives because i might vandalize something, that's an unnecessary rule that inhibits my freedom. there are already reasonable laws that prevent me from vandalizing, regardless of what knife i'm carrying. not allowing people to carry knives is not part of a reasonable law for society because there are a host of other reasons to use a knife that have nothing to do with harming property.
and what kind of argument is it to say you can own it and just not carry it? what good does a knife do locked in a safe? what a silly thing to say.
so, your whole position about how we need laws to have a civilized society is misplaced here. you might be fine surrendering your freedom to accomplish goals that sound nice even though they are already covered under other, more reasonable laws, but you shouldn't be so quick to surrender the rights of others because you like to be dismissive and don't care to think about your position.
successful societies are not only held together by laws, but also by freedom and rights.