What’s up with the military?

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Re: What’s up with the military?

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Wartstein wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:42 am
Naperville wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:38 am
I'm trying to sell my S110V Military. I also have a kydex sheath for it that when used opens the Military on the draw. It has never been carried or used.

Saving up for other Spyderco knives! Need to raise the cash somehow.

Hi Naperville,

please don´t take this as rude or lecturing (since I am certainly not in a position for that), but just as a reminder: No trading on the forum (following the forum rules) and I think that is a good thing (could otherwise get out of control rather quickly I guess) :)

Perhaps you could send a pm instead if you think someone might be interested in a knife you´d like to sell.

Again, no offense and my applogies should I have misinterpreted your post! :)
Thanks! I looked for that rule as I did not want to go astray of them, and I could not find it, YET I had heard of it.

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Re: What’s up with the military?

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HAHAHAHAHA.... Forum rules is in RED right in front of me! Doh, I'll read them.
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Military in 4V would give me an opportunity to carry a steel I've not yet had the opportunity to try out...and a new Military would be a welcome addition.
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I keep looking at the Military....it teases me! I'd love a Ranger Green in any steel with the Spyderedge. Lust is a terrible thing 😂
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Re: What’s up with the military?

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Abyss_Fish wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:24 pm
I keep coming close to buying a millie. It’s got a sort of odd “vintage spyderco” aesthetic that I can’t quite shake. The simple construction, the soft corners on the bits of the handle around the pivot. I’m not even really into big knives, the spydiechef is about my limit. But it’s oddly alluring...

So what’s the deal with it? Why hasn’t it really been touched since it’s release? Why is it tip down only? Would y’all be interested in a modern iteration (thinner blade, drilled for tip up carry, steel more suited for beating, etc)?
Literally everytime someone makes a post about a new Military, without fail a handful of Forumites here quickly reply that the original is perfect, not to be messed with or altered in any way, in perpetuity, forever....

It's the only Spydie that some people DON'T want any CQI applied to, which is ironic considering how a good chunk of posts here are suggesting upgrades and desired features, etc.

"I think a Millie 2 would be sweet, Comp Lock, 4way clip"... I've had this conversation 3 or 4 times over the last couple years.
Others that have been here much longer than me have been going through this topic for well over a decade probably.

Seriously, people have gotten passionate about this and strongly disagree on the matter. Usually the biggest gripe though is all the extra holes for the pocket clip. Doesn't seem to bother them on the many other Spydies that have 4 way orientations. (If the Millie is special to you specifically for having clean G10 presentation, cool).
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This pic is missing my REX45. I am also still waiting for one in 10V, 4V and Maxamet!!!

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Bdubs808 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:25 am
Seriously, people have gotten passionate about this and strongly disagree on the matter. Usually the biggest gripe though is all the extra holes for the pocket clip. Doesn't seem to bother them on the many other Spydies that have 4 way orientations. (If the Millie is special to you specifically for having clean G10 presentation, cool).
I don’t understand that complaint at all. I mean, it’s a very “handed” knife as it is. So why wouldn’t an hourglass clip be single position like the current one...

In any case, it’s whatever. If I can find a mille in a steel I want I’ll just commission scales milled for tip up carry.
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For those who are asking for a Military 2 with a compression lock, they would probably be better to ask for a PM 4. Because that is exactly what it would become.

I own 4 Militaries. I happen to like the CQI applied to it so far. But I don’t think changing it to a different lock would be an upgrade. The Military is, IMHO, the most consistently, best-executed liner lock knife on the market. The liner lock isn’t my favorite lock type, but on the Military it is.

As for the clip, it’s fine the way it is. There’s obviously a reason that Sal designed the slightly curved clip to match the curve of the handle.

As to whether different steels would ‘triple’ the sales, I don’t know about that. It’s already been offered in different steels.

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Just realized the bbs s90v military is in ongoing production. I might be getting a military...
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Abyss_Fish wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:29 am
Just realized the bbs s90v military is in ongoing production. I might be getting a military...

I think they are just sitting on years old inventory. I believe these are the pre-CQI Militaries, so consider that before buying one.
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Abyss_Fish wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:29 am
Just realized the bbs s90v military is in ongoing production. I might be getting a military...
Would not described it as a ongoing production. It's more like new old stock.
If you look closely, it's pre-CQI Military. Smaller tube, no stepped pin, domed pivot.
Buy it if you want to, but these because of pre-CQI stigma are going to be in their shop for a long time.
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James Y wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:22 am
As to whether different steels would ‘triple’ the sales, I don’t know about that. It’s already been offered in different steels.
Considering how slow all the Military sprints have sold I would say he may have miscalculated that one. :)
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Re: What’s up with the military?

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I don't mind liner locks, I mean, I just bought a Gayle Bradley 2! I just want tip up carry. All my blades that are 4" or more (Resilience) have tip up. Works just fine for me. Keep everything else the same, just add tip up, and I'd probably buy one because I did like the one I handled.

Add a compression lock and call it the paramilitary xl. I'd buy it too! Lol
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Re: What’s up with the military?

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The Military is on my list of Spydercos to add to the family. The tip down carry and linerlock might not be deal breakers but they definitely lower it down on my list of wants.
Maybe version 2 could be called the Spyderco Militia!?
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kennethsime wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:31 pm
I was in the same boat as you recently. I love the PM2, Para 3, and Stretch. You'd think a Military would be right up my ally, but I help back, mostly because of the price point. For $200 or so, I could get two $100 knives. Or a $150 knife plus a set of micarta scales. Plus, it doesn't even have a compression lock, and the clip is on the wrong side. I figured I'd wait for the Military 2 to come along, and thought maybe if I pestered Sal & Eric enough they'd do a run in K390 with Ranger Green G-10 scales and a compression lock.

Well, I had an opportunity to pick up a Military recently, the Knifeworks exclusive with Dark Green G-10 and CTS-204p steel thanks to a fellow forumite and I couldn't be happier.

Man, what a knife! I'm definitely regret waiting so long. The first thing you notice is it's big. Really big. The next thing you notice is how light it is. And finally when you open it up, it's even bigger than you thought. The liner lock is smooth, and functions flawlessly. The Military has definitely seen some CQI, and feels modern is every way.

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The Millie has been in my pocket more days than not in the past month or so. I don't mind the clip position, and I don't mind the lock. The only reason I ever hesitate to pick the Military for my EDC is when I think I'm going to be working closely with others, for fear of scaring them with such a large knife. Thanks to COVID, that hasn't happened too much of an issue.

I'm still rooting for a Ranger Green, K390 Military 2 with a Compression lock. I'd like to see the handle shortened a bit if possible, the choil from the PM2, and a 4-way clip. But until then I'll keep carrying my current Military; it's a **** of a knife.
What you have, the 204p version, is really, really, hard to beat imo. Its a fantastic steel. Plenty of Chromium and sharpens so well - holds an edge very well.
Its just hard to beat for an allround knife and steel imo.
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Re: What’s up with the military?

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MacLaren wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:05 pm
What you have, the 204p version, is really, really, hard to beat imo. Its a fantastic steel. Plenty of Chromium and sharpens so well - holds an edge very well.
Its just hard to beat for an allround knife and steel imo.
It's my first experience with anything like M390. Hope to put it to more use once I'm back to work; mostly just opens packages, breaks down cardboard, and slices the occasional apple for now. Haven't had to sharpen it yet, but it sure is keeping the edge well for now.
I'm happiest with Micarta and Tool Steel.

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The Military is one of my tried and true favorites. As many of the others have said, the CQI has introduced subtle upgrades to the Millie, but the bare bones are virtually the same. I actually hunt for the older ones now more than trying to find a good deal on a modern super steel. This picture was about 3 years ago, I have about twice as many now.

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Recently got a C36GPE Military CPM-S30V. Absolutely love it.
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The design is timeless imo. Those lines are so clean, and flow together.
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I love my Millie.

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Having a true left handed knife is pretty special, and I’m grateful to Spyderco for keeping it in the lineup, even though I guess it’s not a big seller.

This pic must be a couple of years old, as it still has the factory edge!

One thing I particularly like, in addition to all of all the other features which have already been mentioned in this thread, is the heavy chamfering on the edges of the G10 scales. Makes it much more comfortable to use and hold. I’d like to see that degree of chamfering applied to all the G10 scales.
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