Simple G-10 front lock...
Simple G-10 front lock...
I really think that Spyderco needs to add a couple of G-10 front lock knives to the line up.  I'm talking about something linerless, and medium sized for easy EDC.  What I'd really like to see is the old Rookie put back into production.  But I also think that making a liner-less G-10 Delica or Calypso Jr. would be a great idea.  I'm all for a smaller Manix as well (as I think it'd be a great out in the woods knife) but for EDC I'd prefer something a little less overbuilt hence liner-less.  I know I'd be all for it and I was just wondering what you all think.
			
			
									
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I strongly suspect that Spyderco stopped doing linerless G10 because G10 is not particularly well suited to being tapped, the threads strip out all too easily.  Yet I have to think that there must be some reasonable compromise between the extremes of dual full liners and no liners.  Perhaps just a "disc" on each side, surrounding the blade pivot.  This would address the need for a "hard point" for clip mounting and allow for RH/LH tip down without adding a serious amount of weight.  For what it's worth, I too would love to see the G10 Rookie return, only in my case I'd like to see it with a full flat grind and no swedge.
			
			
									
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I wouldn't hold your breath - Sal himself has said on this forum in the past:ASmitty wrote:What I'd really like to see is the old Rookie put back into production.
"Bringing back" an old model or version is often financial suicide. It was usually disco'd because of poor sales. It would also hurt the collector value of the early model."
zeus wrote:Here is the secret:
Dual skeletonized RECESSED liners equal the weight of one standard liner. (which is very light to begin with, in a Military anyway)
They are unseen and will allow for 4-way clip mounting on pretty much any Spyderco model. (IMHO)
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Either that or something like a partial recessed liner like Deacon suggested as well. I'm rather fond of tip up carry so I'd prefer to do it in a way that allows for that but really I'm up for anything. I just want a G-10, SLIM, front lock folder.
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I totally agree. I really think the Manix is cool but it's too big for me to EDC. I like the Para-Mil but I don't like the lock. We need something like a Native in G10 and the option of the black blade :)ASmitty wrote:I really think that Spyderco needs to add a couple of G-10 front lock knives to the line up. I'm talking about something linerless, and medium sized for easy EDC. What I'd really like to see is the old Rookie put back into production. But I also think that making a liner-less G-10 Delica or Calypso Jr. would be a great idea. I'm all for a smaller Manix as well (as I think it'd be a great out in the woods knife) but for EDC I'd prefer something a little less overbuilt hence liner-less. I know I'd be all for it and I was just wondering what you all think.
Fisher,
The Native is one I thought about also and although it's just a little big for my EDC purposes I'd definitely be on board for a G-10 Native. One thing I've thought about and wanted to say is that the idea I've suggested doesn't exactly need to be liner-LESS if the liners were nested or recessed if you will. For example, in a G-10 Delica say: what I'm looking for rather than the absence of liners is that the liners not add to bulk. Basically, liners or no, I would want it to compare in thickness to the FRN and SS Delicas that are already being made. Now here's an idea though, instead of trying to figure out how to use a three screw clip and nest a partial or skeletonized liner on a G-10 Delica, how about the barrel pin style clip on the FRN Delica. I think that would be an idea to make it linerless. Otherwise, like I said, recess the liners and it's all the same to me. Although that might push the costs a little high and we want to keep it as low as possible so that it will sell.
			
			
									
									The Native is one I thought about also and although it's just a little big for my EDC purposes I'd definitely be on board for a G-10 Native. One thing I've thought about and wanted to say is that the idea I've suggested doesn't exactly need to be liner-LESS if the liners were nested or recessed if you will. For example, in a G-10 Delica say: what I'm looking for rather than the absence of liners is that the liners not add to bulk. Basically, liners or no, I would want it to compare in thickness to the FRN and SS Delicas that are already being made. Now here's an idea though, instead of trying to figure out how to use a three screw clip and nest a partial or skeletonized liner on a G-10 Delica, how about the barrel pin style clip on the FRN Delica. I think that would be an idea to make it linerless. Otherwise, like I said, recess the liners and it's all the same to me. Although that might push the costs a little high and we want to keep it as low as possible so that it will sell.
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You can get that here. 10 of them in stock :)crahen wrote:Sal isn't against sprint runs of older models is he :confused:
I'd like to see the Standard in G-10 brought back :D :D :D
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A linerless Rookie or Standard... that would be great. As for the clip thing, it has been solved at the UK penknife. 
But what I'd REALLY like, it would be an "afi" Delica with ZDP-189 blade, in full flat grind, with a finger choil and traction grooves like the Meadowlark's, and also Meadowlark handles but in G-10. Linerless, of course, and with a wireclip like the UK Penknife. (hint, hint) :D
			
			
									
									But what I'd REALLY like, it would be an "afi" Delica with ZDP-189 blade, in full flat grind, with a finger choil and traction grooves like the Meadowlark's, and also Meadowlark handles but in G-10. Linerless, of course, and with a wireclip like the UK Penknife. (hint, hint) :D
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Agreed Zrexxer, but yet over the past eighteen months Sal has taken the financial risk a few times. We have seen, among other things, the grey FRN Calypso Jr, which sold well enough that a burgundy ZDP-189 version is now in the works, the Spur, the grey FRN Goddard, the Viele II, and the R2 (which as much as I wanted, I had mentally assigned to the "when pigs fly" category). Sal's observation regarding the Viele II, that a new version of an old model would differ in some way from the original, keeps the impact on the collector value of the originals minimal.Zrexxer wrote:I wouldn't hold your breath - Sal himself has said on this forum in the past:
"Bringing back" an old model or version is often financial suicide. It was usually disco'd because of poor sales. It would also hurt the collector value of the early model."
As far as the Rookie, at the very least would expect the blade of a re-issue to be something other than ATS-55, that alone would eliminate the "confusion" issue. Skeletonized full size non-nested dual liners would work for me too, but the advantage (to me) of the disks is that it keeps the thickness down. The difference in thickness between a single liner Police and a linerless one is quite easily felt, and I personally prefer to carry a fairly slim knife.
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So after reading all the responses on this thread so far I've come up with the solution.  A G-10 Calypso Jr. set for tip down carry with a metal disk recessed at the pivot for the pocket clip screws to screw into, and a G-10 Delica with a wire clip like that on the Native 3 or UK Penknife.  Both linerless and slim for EDC.  One tip up carry, one tip down carry to meet both demands.  Finally, one with a full flat grind blade and one without.  Should everything all the above posts asked for.
			
			
									
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