Don't get cut with a ffg blade
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Don't get cut with a ffg blade
Don't get cut with a ffg blade... As I foolishly did while sharpening my Delica. The same reason this type of blade is a good cutter well yeh that's why you want to avoid being cut by it.
Anyway they use this stuff like superglue now it's funky.
But be careful sharpening.
Anyway they use this stuff like superglue now it's funky.
But be careful sharpening.
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Are you referring to cyanoacrylate? Tissue adhesives like Dermabond have been available for 20+ years.
Agree preventing the accident in the first place is the best policy. Would you care to share how your accident occurred as a lesson for others?
Agree preventing the accident in the first place is the best policy. Would you care to share how your accident occurred as a lesson for others?
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It was foolish, I was touching up a blade using the bare ceramic on the bottom of a mug rather than a proper sharpening tool. The hand holding the mug was too close to the top, and the knife slipped right into it.
It's silly actually using knives I don't think I've ever got cut before, except maybe as a kid. Tools, saws, chisels, yeh, but not knives. First time for everything I guess.
But if anyone was wondering, full flat grind blades cut very well even on the receiving end.
It's silly actually using knives I don't think I've ever got cut before, except maybe as a kid. Tools, saws, chisels, yeh, but not knives. First time for everything I guess.
But if anyone was wondering, full flat grind blades cut very well even on the receiving end.
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Dumbest knife thing I ever did was at work, my pm2 slipped out of my hand while closing it and instinctively I grabbed for it before it had a chance to hit the concrete floor. It stabbed my palm on my left hand. Took a while to get that one to stop bleeding, luckily I didn't hit any tendons or anything major.
I don't bother trying to catch falling knives anymore, lol. Or maybe more importantly, I'm more aware of not dropping them in the first place :D
I don't bother trying to catch falling knives anymore, lol. Or maybe more importantly, I'm more aware of not dropping them in the first place :D
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Pics or it didn't happen. :)
Just be happy it wasn't serrated. At least a cut from a sharp plain edge heals nicely.
My father said they were issued super glue in Vietnam. I carry some in my first aid kits.
Just be happy it wasn't serrated. At least a cut from a sharp plain edge heals nicely.
My father said they were issued super glue in Vietnam. I carry some in my first aid kits.
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Super glue works like a champ...Friend of mine was helping me put up some plywood over the windows for the last hurricane here in Tampa, FL. The plywood has these serrated spring clamps to hold them in place. While putting up the plywood he sliced his knee open on one of the clamps...bleeding like a stuffed pig. It looked like stitches to me. He asked if I had any super glue and slowly glued the cut closed. Worked like a champ!!! Never broke back open...it healed real good after about a week.
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About 6 years ago I was teaching a class, and I had an X-acto knife come uncapped in my pocket. At first I thought it was just something pinching my leg, but after I looked down and saw blood spreading through my pants I realized what had happened.
I stopped the class, went to the bathroom, took my pants down and realized I had a fairly large (maybe 2 or 2 1/2 inches) gash.
One of the students in the class was a recon marine sergeant, and he popped in with "no problem, we can just fill it with superglue and hold it shut, and you'll be fine."
No freakin' way was I going to do that. I called my wife (who is an M.D.). She came over to my office, looked at the gash in my leg, and the first thing she said was "do you have any superglue?"
In the end, the marine held the gash closed after my wife poured superglue into it.
I now stock unopened tubes of superglue in all my emergency kits.
I stopped the class, went to the bathroom, took my pants down and realized I had a fairly large (maybe 2 or 2 1/2 inches) gash.
One of the students in the class was a recon marine sergeant, and he popped in with "no problem, we can just fill it with superglue and hold it shut, and you'll be fine."
No freakin' way was I going to do that. I called my wife (who is an M.D.). She came over to my office, looked at the gash in my leg, and the first thing she said was "do you have any superglue?"
In the end, the marine held the gash closed after my wife poured superglue into it.
I now stock unopened tubes of superglue in all my emergency kits.
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X2 you beat me to it...lolTomAiello wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:13 pmAbout 6 years ago I was teaching a class, and I had an X-acto knife come uncapped in my pocket. At first I thought it was just something pinching my leg, but after I looked down and saw blood spreading through my pants I realized what had happened.
I stopped the class, went to the bathroom, took my pants down and realized I had a fairly large (maybe 2 or 2 1/2 inches) gash.
One of the students in the class was a recon marine sergeant, and he popped in with "no problem, we can just fill it with superglue and hold it shut, and you'll be fine."
No freakin' way was I going to do that. I called my wife (who is an M.D.). She came over to my office, looked at the gash in my leg, and the first thing she said was "do you have any superglue?"
In the end, the marine held the gash closed after my wife poured superglue into it.
I now stock unopened tubes of superglue in all my emergency kits.
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Superglue... Cheaper than the medical stuff, and works better too! I've used it loads of times. I don't usually cut myself though, usually... Lol
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I've heard of using superglue for stopping bleeding, and it's use in Vietnam, but you put the superglue INTO the cut? And not just over/on top of it? That's what always confused me about it's use, one doesn't need to avoid getting the glue in the cut? I'm probably just dense lolTomAiello wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:13 pmAbout 6 years ago I was teaching a class, and I had an X-acto knife come uncapped in my pocket. At first I thought it was just something pinching my leg, but after I looked down and saw blood spreading through my pants I realized what had happened.
I stopped the class, went to the bathroom, took my pants down and realized I had a fairly large (maybe 2 or 2 1/2 inches) gash.
One of the students in the class was a recon marine sergeant, and he popped in with "no problem, we can just fill it with superglue and hold it shut, and you'll be fine."
No freakin' way was I going to do that. I called my wife (who is an M.D.). She came over to my office, looked at the gash in my leg, and the first thing she said was "do you have any superglue?"
In the end, the marine held the gash closed after my wife poured superglue into it.
I now stock unopened tubes of superglue in all my emergency kits.
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Are you all 100 percent sure the super glue option will have no adverse effects such as infection to the wound?
Here is some data I found:
https://www.realfirstaid.co.uk/superglue
https://morethanjustsurviving.com/super-glue-for-cuts/
https://www.healthline.com/health/super-glue-on-cuts
https://mayoclinichealthsystem.org/home ... st-aid-kit
Full Flat Grinds have earned my respect and acceptance for sharpness, toughness, and strength, there with the Saber Grind.
Here is some data I found:
https://www.realfirstaid.co.uk/superglue
https://morethanjustsurviving.com/super-glue-for-cuts/
https://www.healthline.com/health/super-glue-on-cuts
https://mayoclinichealthsystem.org/home ... st-aid-kit
Full Flat Grinds have earned my respect and acceptance for sharpness, toughness, and strength, there with the Saber Grind.
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I wonder that too. Into or onto? Sounds toxic.
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It definitely worked for me. I still have the scar to prove it. And my wife is an actual Medical Doctor, with a board certification, and she was the one who did it. Either she doesn't really like me as much as I'd hope, or it really is a good thing.
It's definitely not toxic.
It's definitely not toxic.
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She pretty much put it in and then had him squeeze it shut with the superglue inside. That glued the two sides of the wound together.JonLeBlanc wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:28 pmI've heard of using superglue for stopping bleeding, and it's use in Vietnam, but you put the superglue INTO the cut?
Apparently your body can break it down, so it bonds the skin together and then gets processed by your natural systems.
I realize it sounds crazy. It certainly sounded crazy to me, and I definitely wasn't willing to let my student do it to me based on his "hoo-rah" medical training. Which made me sound pretty silly when my legit med school graduate wife told me that was exactly what she was going to do.
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Don't superglue animal bites, that definitely increases infection rates, even if you irrigate it well.
It works well on clean, incised wounds (like knife wounds!). Irrigate thoroughly, then hold the wound edges together and paint the superglue over the top of the wound. You may have to do more than one coat. The stuff is brittle after it dries, so if over a joint or body part that has a lot of motion, it may crack off. Avoid closing wounds with super glue that are more than 6 hours old or heavily contaminated with debris.
A reasonable alternative in many cases is Butterfly bandages, which have been around forever, or Steristrips. Personally, at home I tend to use the adhesive part of Bandaid Sport Strips. It is like an adhesive foam rubber and sticks like crazy, but is also flexible!
It works well on clean, incised wounds (like knife wounds!). Irrigate thoroughly, then hold the wound edges together and paint the superglue over the top of the wound. You may have to do more than one coat. The stuff is brittle after it dries, so if over a joint or body part that has a lot of motion, it may crack off. Avoid closing wounds with super glue that are more than 6 hours old or heavily contaminated with debris.
A reasonable alternative in many cases is Butterfly bandages, which have been around forever, or Steristrips. Personally, at home I tend to use the adhesive part of Bandaid Sport Strips. It is like an adhesive foam rubber and sticks like crazy, but is also flexible!
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In this instance, he closed the wound then applied the super glue. He would do about a 1/4" at a time. Close it, glue it.JonLeBlanc wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:28 pmI've heard of using superglue for stopping bleeding, and it's use in Vietnam, but you put the superglue INTO the cut? And not just over/on top of it? That's what always confused me about it's use, one doesn't need to avoid getting the glue in the cut? I'm probably just dense lolTomAiello wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:13 pmAbout 6 years ago I was teaching a class, and I had an X-acto knife come uncapped in my pocket. At first I thought it was just something pinching my leg, but after I looked down and saw blood spreading through my pants I realized what had happened.
I stopped the class, went to the bathroom, took my pants down and realized I had a fairly large (maybe 2 or 2 1/2 inches) gash.
One of the students in the class was a recon marine sergeant, and he popped in with "no problem, we can just fill it with superglue and hold it shut, and you'll be fine."
No freakin' way was I going to do that. I called my wife (who is an M.D.). She came over to my office, looked at the gash in my leg, and the first thing she said was "do you have any superglue?"
In the end, the marine held the gash closed after my wife poured superglue into it.
I now stock unopened tubes of superglue in all my emergency kits.
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I"ve sustained some pretty mean cuts even with hollow grind blades too. But I will admit that about the worst and deepest cut I ever gave myself was close to 10 years ago and I posted it here on this forum. I did it with my ZDP-189 Caly Jr. Luckily I was working for a retired medical doctor at the time and he was right there and able to bandage it up really good. He said he had never seen such a clean cut since he had worked in surgical clinics.
When that cut healed it actually healed pretty fast and that doctor told me because of that blade being straight razor sharp thus making a really clean, precise incision it was similar to a surgeon opening you up. There is a scar there now but you really have to look for it.
Oh yes the ZDP-189 Caly Jr was a full flat grind like most of the other Caly Jr models were.
When that cut healed it actually healed pretty fast and that doctor told me because of that blade being straight razor sharp thus making a really clean, precise incision it was similar to a surgeon opening you up. There is a scar there now but you really have to look for it.
Oh yes the ZDP-189 Caly Jr was a full flat grind like most of the other Caly Jr models were.
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Wow JD I am so glad you were able to get that wound closed and healed! Does this mean the Caly 3.5 Light Weight will most assuredly have similiar cutting power?JD Spydo wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:25 amI"ve sustained some pretty mean cuts even with hollow grind blades too. But I will admit that about the worst and deepest cut I ever gave myself was close to 10 years ago and I posted it here on this forum. I did it with my ZDP-189 Caly Jr. Luckily I was working for a retired medical doctor at the time and he was right there and able to bandage it up really good. He said he had never seen such a clean cut since he had worked in surgical clinics.
When that cut healed it actually healed pretty fast and that doctor told me because of that blade being straight razor sharp thus making a really clean, precise incision it was similar to a surgeon opening you up. There is a scar there now but you really have to look for it.
Oh yes the ZDP-189 Caly Jr was a full flat grind like most of the other Caly Jr models were.