Now's the time: For a New Hawkbill!!!

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Speaking of Auto-Cad does anyone have a good free program to recommend for knife design? I looked into getting 123D from auto desk but it has been discontinued.
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ZrowsN1s wrote:Speaking of Auto-Cad does anyone have a good free program to recommend for knife design? I looked into getting 123D from auto desk but it has been discontinued.
Not for free I don't :( But I'm sure there are programs out there if you look hard enough. Depending on the operating system you have because I've found that some of the newer operating systems don't accommodate some of those older programs unfortunately. Follow the "money trail" on that one :rolleyes:

What the heck I found some of my old/ancient drafting equipment I've had for years at my storage unit so I might just do it manually the old fashioned way :rolleyes:

I think it would be cool to have glass-breakers in the butt of each model just like they do with the ASSIST 1 model. I would also welcome any suggestions as to what would make a good Hawkbill "Great".

For the folder though I'm convinced that something in the size range of the older SUPERHAWK model would be ideal. And I don't think the fixed bladed Hawkbill model would have to be very big either.
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Ill have to look around a little more for the autocad stuff. I think you're right about the fixed blade not needing to be too big. I think emersons fixed blade karambit is only 3.5
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Which scales will be compatible with the spyderhawk sprint? Im thinking of buying two and putting black or aftermarket scales on the second one.
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crazywednesday wrote:Which scales will be compatible with the spyderhawk sprint? Im thinking of buying two and putting black or aftermarket scales on the second one.
Personally I've been craving a Spyderhawk and a Harpy model both with G-10 scales. Especially with this newer, better G-10 that Spyderco has been using of late. Now Micarta might just be a bit on the heavy side for the Spyderhawk model but I would love to see a Micarta Harpy.

There is a company that advertises in "Knives Illustated" magazine that has a huge selection of G-10 but I'm at work now and I can't remember the name of the company but I will dig it out when I get home. But if I remember correctly I believe Halpern Titanium Co. also has a nice selection of many different handle materials you might want to look at.

I have nothing against FRN per se but I'm like you I just like G-10 and CF just a tad better for EDC uses.
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Maybe what I need to consider is rit dye. Its not the FRN thats the problem, I would just like something other than orange for edc.
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crazywednesday wrote:Maybe what I need to consider is rit dye. Its not the FRN thats the problem, I would just like something other than orange for edc.
There are a lot of people who do "dye" their FRN scales and some have even boasted good success doing so. Myself I tend to like the nuclear colors because when using them they are easy to find if you misplace them. Albeit I would love to see some new Hawkbills with nuclear colored G-10 scales.

It would be a good idea to have scales that are easily removable for those who want to opt for different colors.

I find certain colors make some Spyders more sheeple/people friendly. I've never had anyone ever object to my blue, PE Dodo model for instance. But let us know how your dying project works out :)
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JD Spydo wrote:
crazywednesday wrote:Maybe what I need to consider is rit dye. Its not the FRN thats the problem, I would just like something other than orange for edc.
There are a lot of people who do "dye" their FRN scales and some have even boasted good success doing so. Myself I tend to like the nuclear colors because when using them they are easy to find if you misplace them. Albeit I would love to see some new Hawkbills with nuclear colored G-10 scales.

It would be a good idea to have scales that are easily removable for those who want to opt for different colors.

I find certain colors make some Spyders more sheeple/people friendly. I've never had anyone ever object to my blue, PE Dodo model for instance. But let us know how your dying project works out :)
So if you were to dye your orange scale, what color would you make them?
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JD Spydo wrote:
crazywednesday wrote:Maybe what I need to consider is rit dye. Its not the FRN thats the problem, I would just like something other than orange for edc.
There are a lot of people who do "dye" their FRN scales and some have even boasted good success doing so. Myself I tend to like the nuclear colors because when using them they are easy to find if you misplace them. Albeit I would love to see some new Hawkbills with nuclear colored G-10 scales.

It would be a good idea to have scales that are easily removable for those who want to opt for different colors.

I find certain colors make some Spyders more sheeple/people friendly. I've never had anyone ever object to my blue, PE Dodo model for instance. But let us know how your dying project works out :)
So if you were to dye your orange scale, what color would you make them?
I would go with one of the "NUCLEAR" colors. I actually like the NUCLEAR colors for hard users like my Hawkbills because if you misplace one they are much easier to find. Also oddly enough it seems like my folders with Nuclear colors seem to be more sheeple/people friendly :confused: And being I use my Hawkbills on many outdoor type chores I like those types of colors because again they are much easier to find.

For Spyderco's Hawkbills I would love it if they would have removable scales so that you could change colors anytime you wanted.
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Ordered a Byrd Hawkbill.... :D

I've been wanting one of these. For $17 I couldn't pass. Other than corrosion resistance, how do these compare to H1?
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crazywednesday wrote:Ordered a Byrd Hawkbill.... :D

I've been wanting one of these. For $17 I couldn't pass. Other than corrosion resistance, how do these compare to H1?
I've actually considered ending my Byrd boycott and getting a CrossBill model myself. I love the modest curve and overall design of that model. It's sort of like a low cost type of version of the once celebrated SUPERHAWK model ( which I believe was borne out of this thread :rolleyes: ;) )

I just hope you get a Spyderedged model because I'm 1000% convinced that Spyderedged Hawkbills perform about 8 times better than a plain edged Hawkbill does. Hawkbills and Reverse S blades both do considerably better in Spyderedge>> there's not even one reason to debate that either.

Well Brother keep us posted as to how good of results you have with your CROSSBILL>> But if you like the CROSSBILL you MUST go for a Harpy and/or Spyderhawk>> You are going to want a serious Hawkbill when you get your first taste of that Crossbill model ;)
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How would you feel about the g-10 harpy minus the lanyard hole with a tip up carry option?
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JD Spydo wrote: I just hope you get a Spyderedged model because I'm 1000% convinced that Spyderedged Hawkbills perform about 8 times better than a plain edged Hawkbill does. Hawkbills and Reverse S blades both do considerably better in Spyderedge>> there's not even one reason to debate that either.

Well Brother keep us posted as to how good of results you have with your CROSSBILL>> But if you like the CROSSBILL you MUST go for a Harpy and/or Spyderhawk>> You are going to want a serious Hawkbill when you get your first taste of that Crossbill model ;)
Absolutely got the spyderedge version. BTW, I ordered the Byrd Hawkbill (link below) not the Crossbill. As far as a Harpy, cant do it. Im just not interested in stainless handles. If they made it in FRN or G10 I would give it a go.
ZrowsN1s wrote:How would you feel about the g-10 harpy minus the lanyard hole with a tip up carry option?
Sounds great to me.

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crazywednesday wrote:
ZrowsN1s wrote:How would you feel about the g-10 harpy minus the lanyard hole with a tip up carry option?
Sounds great to me.

https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/detail ... Handle/604
If they'd make one in plain edge ZDP or LC200N I'd buy it.
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ZrowsN1s wrote:How would you feel about the g-10 harpy minus the lanyard hole with a tip up carry option?
Sorry I find a valid need for lanyard holes and I actually use them occasionally. Why might I ask why a lanyard hole would detract from the performance of a good folder? As far as "TIp UP or Tip DOWN carry>> personally I'm just a bit more comfortable with a tip down carry for most of my folders. But overall it's just not an issue with me at all.

But for you guys who really like one style or another I do hope that they make a G-10 Harpy where you can alternate positions on it. I'm much more concerned about the grip/purchase of a great folder than I am with tip configuration.

As long as any G-10 Harpy is made with top notch materials I can give in on certain features. But I do want a lanyard hole>> especially with a knife where I might just be working around a body of water.
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JD Spydo wrote:
ZrowsN1s wrote:How would you feel about the g-10 harpy minus the lanyard hole with a tip up carry option?
Sorry I find a valid need for lanyard holes and I actually use them occasionally. Why might I ask why a lanyard hole would detract from the performance of a good folder? As far as "TIp UP or Tip DOWN carry>> personally I'm just a bit more comfortable with a tip down carry for most of my folders. But overall it's just not an issue with me at all. ...
mostly I wanted to get rid of the lanyard hole for optimal tip up carry, but they could always use a clip with a lanyard hole like the native 5 I suppose.
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Byrd hawkbill showed up today. It kicked the Tasman straight out of the front right pocket; well after I sharpened it a bit. Speaking of sharpening, this Chinese steel is very easy to sharpen. The only thing I used to bring it up to par was a spyderco sharpmaker fine stone at the proper angle. It took less than 20 strokes. I love my modified Tasman, but this Hawkbill has so much potential. So far there are two things I like better about it. The point is much thinner because of the angle from the point to the spyderhole. I always thought the Tasman had the wrong angle, but after seeing this, now I know it does. The second thing is I am digging is the embedded liners (read as heft). Other than that it is a standard Byrd knife. Read any other review in the Byrd section. The last thing I can say about this knife is Byrd = Value. So many things about this knife from lockup to fit and finish make it worth every penny ($20), probably more. Lets see how well this thing holds up! It will be in my pocket until Spydhawk Salt sprint comes out.
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Crazywednesday, I also recently got a Byrd Hawkbill, which is my first hawkbill. I totally agree about its quality and value, and I look forward to using it around the house. Based on my first impression, I cannot justify spending 3-4 times more for a Spydie version. I absolutely adore the Byrd Hawkbill!
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Mr. Shawn wrote:Crazywednesday, I also recently got a Byrd Hawkbill, which is my first hawkbill. I totally agree about its quality and value, and I look forward to using it around the house. Based on my first impression, I cannot justify spending 3-4 times more for a Spydie version. I absolutely adore the Byrd Hawkbill!
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I would say the main thing it lacks is the corrosion resistance of H1.
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crazywednesday wrote: I would say the main thing it lacks is the corrosion resistance of H1.
Good point, which I will keep in mind if I ever start working around water. :)
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