Humans in hand to hand combat against animals?

[OldHoosier62]

This makes my point...If you aren't armed or very fast, you could be very dead. Horrible attack, as these type of things are getting more and more common.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/2-injur ... /310879743

[JD Spydo]

This makes my point...If you aren't armed or very fast, you could be very dead. Horrible attack, as these type of things are getting more and more common.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/2-injur ... /310879743

Very sobering to say the least " oldHoosier" >> and thank you for posting that news bulletin. My condolences to the family. AS I mentioned in a previous thread I was attacked by a neighbor's pitbull where I was living at the time in the Northeast part of Kansas City and had I not taken violent action against the dog I don't know where it would have ended up at. All I sustained to two really bad bites and there were only two places that needed stiches.

There just seems to be an inordinate amount of attacks by pit bull terriors and I don't know what has happened to that breed. You can go back all the way to the days of the "Our Gang" kids ( a kid's show from the 30s & 40s) and the dog they had with the ring around his eye was indeed a pitbull. The people I know that were huge fans of that show said that particular pitbull was a "pussycat" of a dog and would truly lick you until you laughed.

But somewhere along the line the entire breed is now untrustworthy from what I can tell. My neighbors pitbull that attacked me was said to be a nice family dog but my two ankles told me different :rolleyes: . But I believe any breed of dog can be ruined under the wrong circumstances. But when any breed of dog turns on it's very owner/master you have to be safe rather than very sorry. I personally will never own a pitbull>> I've just had way too many people tell me about being attacked by them just like I was (only walking down the sidewalk). I've owned and raised two German Shepherds and found them to be very loyal family dogs. But GOD help us if a German Shepherd would go feral>> because they could really do some major damage needless to say. But OldHoosier is right>> there is definitely a growing problem with feral animals in this country and it's getting worse too.

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Bloke and all, check this out, in Australia they caught an alleged cattle-eating salt water croc, a bigggg saltie that one is:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37241884

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/wor ... /89760766/

Question: What if you are relaxing on a beach in Oz and you awake to see a salt water croc about a foot or so from you? What is the best way to survive and escape this?

Hopefully one would have a good knife and would be able to, IF scaring it away or running doesn't work, hit it in the sensitive spots?

[Bodog]

I like discussions like this. I tend to believe a human with a moderate amount of physical fitness and some kind of weapon that can pierce the animal's hide into the lungs or throat can successfully fight most animals out there, but only if tell person is able and willing to unleash their own "inner beast" and be more aggressive than the animal. Most humans don't have that primal side and that's why animals so often can successfully attack or kill people but every so often you hear a story of a man doing something crazy.

I remember a news story 10 or 15 years ago where a buck jumped into a girl's room in the middle of the night. The girl's dad heard something and went running. He opened the door, saw what was happening, was able to run in and grab his daughter and pull her out and close the door behind him. He grabbed a knife and went back inside the room. Killed the buck inside his own house in a small, confined area. That's some primal aggression.

I just watched a video of a freaking goat on the loose ramming everyone around. People were scared of it and the most anyone could think of to fight it off was to kick and run. While I was laughing I was also frustrated that no one thought to distract the goat while someone else jumped on its back and cut its throat.

I've also seen aggressive dog videos where the same type of situation played out while the dog was mauling a kid or another dog. Why no one believed that they could physically overtake these animals with the right tools I'll never figure out. It doesn't take much, just bleed the animal out. Most animal, especially mammals, have the same weak spots. The throat and eyes. Destroy either and the animal will either die or be left unable to mount an offense. Obviously things change when dealing with something like a bear, tiger, moose, or other animal so large that a human cannot physically effectively maneuver around it. With smaller animals use your strength, intelligence, and ferocity. With larger animals use speed, intelligence, and ferocity.

Yes, I've fought a Belgian malinois (a police dog i was certifying with that snapped) without killing it. I had to offer my weak arm before it could get to my face. Once it had my arm I wrapped my strong arm around its head and purposely shoved my forearm hard enough into the dogs jaws that it stopped trying to bite me for a second and re-grip. Once it did that I was able to turn its head, work my left arm around its jaw to keep his teeth away from me, and start punching the **** out of its throat. I hate to say it but I went a little vicious on it and started kneeing it wherever i could, that happened to be its stomach. The dog started puking and weezing and pissed itself before it withdrew its arms and just laid there. I started slapping it across the face to ensure it really wanted to give up. It did. After that the dog was more of a pussycat, at least with me. My left arm was cut up a little bit and my right knuckles were busted from punching the dog in the mouth but that was it. Could've been much worse had I decided deep down that the dog could win. No, no one blamed me because everyone knew the dog was psycho and needed to be broken.

But that's a dog. I believe bigger animals require coordinated efforts between multiple aggressive people with longer weapons like spears that keep the animal's natural weapons away. I don't believe that one person with a knife could kill an alligator, for instance, but two guys with spears could if they had it in their minds to.

I fully believe one man with a decent knife could kill a mountain lion if the man had full faith in himself and could tap into his primal side. He'd be bleeding in the end but he could live.

I believe a man with a decent knife could kill a bull if he wasn't blindsided. He'd have to be patient and move around ALOT and only take stabs to the bull's throat when possible. Bulls don't move side to side easily and they're slow to turn.

I think if a bear or tiger came at you you'd be screwed. In order to kill one without projectile weapons you'd have to come up with some kind of trap like a dead fall or deep tiger pit. If they surprised you with an attack i think the best you could do is try to cover your vitals and hope they lose interest before they bleed you dry or crush your guts.

Every animal is born with weapons. Humans have intelligence and the capability of operating in a large variety of environments. Humans also have the capacity to recognize and control their emotions. If humans used their own natural weapons they'd be far more successful in fending off attacks. Not just fending off attacks, but turning the tables and controlling and/or killing the attacker using the environment and animal's lack of control against it.

[JD Spydo]

I like discussions like this. I tend to believe a human with a moderate amount of physical fitness and some kind of weapon that can pierce the animal's hide into the lungs or throat can successfully fight most animals out there, but only if tell person is able and willing to unleash their own "inner beast" and be more aggressive than the animal. Most humans don't have that primal side and that's why animals so often can successfully attack or kill people but every so often you hear a story of a man doing something crazy.

But that's a dog. I believe bigger animals require coordinated efforts between multiple aggressive people with longer weapons like spears that keep the animal's natural weapons away. I don't believe that one person with a knife could kill an alligator, for instance, but two guys with spears could if they had it in their minds to.

I fully believe one man with a decent knife could kill a mountain lion if the man had full faith in himself and could tap into his primal side. He'd be bleeding in the end but he could live.-

Every animal is born with weapons. Humans have intelligence and the capability of operating in a large variety of environments. Humans also have the capacity to recognize and control their emotions. If humans used their own natural weapons they'd be far more successful in fending off attacks. Not just fending off attacks, but turning the tables and controlling and/or killing the attacker using the environment and animal's lack of control against it.

That last paragraph reminds of my favorite old Spyderco logo>> I actually still own and wear it too on a Spyderco T-Shirt. It says on the shirt " THINK ABOUT IT: ALL GOD's CRITTERS HAVE KNIVES" ; With the possible exception of mankind?. It's my favorite Spyderco logo/slogan of all time :cool: But what you say is true and profound about all animals being born with weapons. But on the other hand GOD gave mankind the wisdom to actually create weapons with the use of tools.

[JD Spydo]

I like discussions like this. I tend to believe a human with a moderate amount of physical fitness and some kind of weapon that can pierce the animal's hide into the lungs or throat can successfully fight most animals out there, but only if tell person is able and willing to unleash their own "inner beast" and be more aggressive than the animal. Most humans don't have that primal side and that's why animals so often can successfully attack or kill people but every so often you hear a story of a man doing something crazy.

But that's a dog. I believe bigger animals require coordinated efforts between multiple aggressive people with longer weapons like spears that keep the animal's natural weapons away. I don't believe that one person with a knife could kill an alligator, for instance, but two guys with spears could if they had it in their minds to.

I fully believe one man with a decent knife could kill a mountain lion if the man had full faith in himself and could tap into his primal side. He'd be bleeding in the end but he could live.-

Every animal is born with weapons. Humans have intelligence and the capability of operating in a large variety of environments. Humans also have the capacity to recognize and control their emotions. If humans used their own natural weapons they'd be far more successful in fending off attacks. Not just fending off attacks, but turning the tables and controlling and/or killing the attacker using the environment and animal's lack of control against it.

That last paragraph reminds of my favorite old Spyderco logo>> I actually still own and wear it too on a Spyderco T-Shirt. It says on the shirt " THINK ABOUT IT: ALL GOD's CRITTERS HAVE KNIVES" ; With the possible exception of mankind?. It's my favorite Spyderco logo/slogan of all time :cool: But what you say is true and profound about all animals being born with weapons. But on the other hand GOD gave mankind the wisdom to actually create weapons with the use of tools. And I believe anybody is a total fool if they believe that they can battle an animal without the use of some type of a weapon.