Small wharncliffe FB Spyderco?

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Small wharncliffe FB Spyderco?

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Well,
we have the Swick. I'd like to see something with more conventional handle than Swick's. don't get me wrong, I love my all my Swick's, but still...

I just recently "discovered" the whancliffe blade shape. Very handy in many applications.
Sure, there's Kiwi (holy Batman they're expensive now) and the Spin (shootload of counterfits around), Kahr Delica etc, but a Fixed blade small wharncliffe, yes please :D

Any ideas, wishes, hopes and dreams guys? Let's keep the size somehere around Delica/Native, or smaller.
How about a wharncliffe ARK? Or mini-Ronin? Mike J, any plans? :D :D
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I guess you could take a Ronin 2 and grind it down to the size you want.
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I think I remember a lime cutter style knife being mentioned in the Amsterdam meet thread....
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A fixed blade Kiwi4 would make a cool knife. It could easily be made light enough to be a neck knife.
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bearfacedkiller wrote:A fixed blade Kiwi4 would make a cool knife. It could easily be made light enough to be a neck knife.
Count me in, that's a Spyderco style Minimalist waiting to happen, and in a better steel. I'll buy one.
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I thought the same thing. It would be a lot like the Minimalist.
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Hi Folks!

Evil D wrote: Count me in, that's a Spyderco style Minimalist waiting to happen, and in a better steel. I'll buy one.
Ditto

I'll take three of those! :D
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Every time these topics come up I start daydreaming about ways to make a folding into a fixed blade and make it safe. There's also a request I've seen several times for a Dragonfly fixed blade. I don't think you could weld the pivot without creating enough heat to damage the heat treat of the blade though, so you're probably stuck with epoxies like JB Weld. Still, I'm not sure I could ever trust something like that as much as a true fixed blade, I've broke too many welds in my life. I suppose it's easy to assume that if you're cutting with the knife, the force applied to the blade is the same as if it were still a folder, so it wouldn't be any less safe in that way than the folder.

What I have in my kind is taking something like a Military (you really would need to use a knife with steel liners for this) and filling the whole handle full of JB weld from the pivot all the way back and then sanding that down smooth and flush with the rest of the handle. On most knives you could even Weld in around the lock mechanism, so on a Military you would open the blade (duh) and have epoxy on both sides of the lock, so it couldn't unlock. You would want to get it in around the pivot and washers too. If I had a knife I didn't mind screwing up I'd give it a try, but then I also don't really have a lot of need for a fixed blade. Someday if one of my knives ever gets to the point where the liner lock is bottomed out or there's a ton of blade play that I can't live with, I'll give this a try.
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A fixed Pingo with a wharn tip would be perfection to me. In fact I might get someone to make me a custom
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Hobbyist knifemaking is a wonderful thing. You'll likely note the inspiration for two of these knives. Made for myself. In this internet/youtube age it's very easy to get started. I use some power tools but my bevels are done with files.
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Personally I would love to see the Ark in wharncliffe. I think wharncliffe works great for short blades because the blade shape offers a lot of control during a cut, and it excels at precision tip work.
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Sam and I have a series of small knives with a different blade shape, optimized for tasks instead of defense like the ARK. Spyderco did not feel there was enough demand at the time we showed them. (Some of this may have been related to the fact that the original DKs are too small for belt carry, and neck carry has a variety of challenges.)

This is not a warnie, but it is an extremely useful, very efficient blade shape.

These are versions of our Daily Kiri.

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With an 87mm Persian 2.

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I did draw another design at the same time I began sketching the Kiris that is in fact a wharncliffe or (in larger versions) a modern seax. The problem with those knives (the "Shivver" series) is that they are dedicated fighting knives, and too delicate IMO for strenuous work.

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Jazz's "wharnie thread" got me going again... :D

first, ABX, those are some nice diy-ones! Might give it a try too someday. I have to admit, I was seriously thinking of Jandura-izing an Endura for testing purposes (found a fake :spyder: ebay sale while looking for Endura prices :mad: ) But I'd still like a FB wharnie more than a folder. And I'm not even sure why..

how's the Kiwi 4:s lock strenght / general "flimsyness" by the way? Not saying it is flimsy, but it just looks so "thin" all around. I was surprised to find out that the edgel lenght is retty much Delica size... I thought it was smaller,like the previous Kiwi versions.


and John, those little Kiridashi's sure look sweet. The one without a choil has leather scales? I like that shivver wharnie :)
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Thanks! Those are actually the most incredibly ugly paper micarta scales ever.
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Isnt the enuff, a small warncliff fb.
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Evil D wrote:Every time these topics come up I start daydreaming about ways to make a folding into a fixed blade and make it safe. There's also a request I've seen several times for a Dragonfly fixed blade. I don't think you could weld the pivot without creating enough heat to damage the heat treat of the blade though, so you're probably stuck with epoxies like JB Weld. Still, I'm not sure I could ever trust something like that as much as a true fixed blade, I've broke too many welds in my life. I suppose it's easy to assume that if you're cutting with the knife, the force applied to the blade is the same as if it were still a folder, so it wouldn't be any less safe in that way than the folder.

Drill a second hole in the tang (or third if there's room) and either pin it or put a screw and post through it. Voila!
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JT wrote:first, ABX, those are some nice diy-ones! Might give it a try too someday.
Thanks, here are a couple more.
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Studey wrote:
Evil D wrote:Every time these topics come up I start daydreaming about ways to make a folding into a fixed blade and make it safe. There's also a request I've seen several times for a Dragonfly fixed blade. I don't think you could weld the pivot without creating enough heat to damage the heat treat of the blade though, so you're probably stuck with epoxies like JB Weld. Still, I'm not sure I could ever trust something like that as much as a true fixed blade, I've broke too many welds in my life. I suppose it's easy to assume that if you're cutting with the knife, the force applied to the blade is the same as if it were still a folder, so it wouldn't be any less safe in that way than the folder.

Drill a second hole in the tang (or third if there's room) and either pin it or put a screw and post through it. Voila!
That's not a bad idea as long as there's enough tang to allow it. The hard part will be actually drilling the hole..
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I'd consider buying a small Wharncliffe fixed blade. I don't carry fixed blades, but a small Kiwi Minimalist might make me consider it.
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Able Dog wrote:I'd consider buying a small Wharncliffe fixed blade. I don't carry fixed blades, but a small Kiwi Minimalist might make me consider it.
Count me in as well
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