Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
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Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
Just wondering what you guys think about fancy pivots and colored stand offs. Would you like to see more of these on Spyderco models?
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
If it ties in with the overall aesthetic of the knife- Then sure, why not?....
The only thing that I have a raging hatred of is any pivot* that requires a proprietary one-off tool to adjust....Really Mr Custom Knife Maker, because you thought your superduper mobius styled fastener head was somehow magically better than a torx fastener?- One born every minute.
*Or indeed any other part of the hardware
The only thing that I have a raging hatred of is any pivot* that requires a proprietary one-off tool to adjust....Really Mr Custom Knife Maker, because you thought your superduper mobius styled fastener head was somehow magically better than a torx fastener?- One born every minute.
*Or indeed any other part of the hardware
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
Hey, but the tool will only cost you $75! What a bargain!
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
Pretty to look at but I don't need them.
Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
Pretty much my thoughts on the subject as well. While I like a tastefully done upgrade my knives are more for working than for pretty, but I appreciate a nice appearance and something to take a bit of pride in too.demoncase wrote:If it ties in with the overall aesthetic of the knife- Then sure, why not?....
The only thing that I have a raging hatred of is any pivot* that requires a proprietary one-off tool to adjust....Really Mr Custom Knife Maker, because you thought your superduper mobius styled fastener head was somehow magically better than a torx fastener?- One born every minute.
*Or indeed any other part of the hardware
However, I would want to keep the Torex fasteners for ease of maintenance.
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
I don't mind them if done tastefully, not necessary but looks good on some pieces.
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
I certainly think some anodizing can add a little sexiness if done right. That said, I've never felt the need to buy any after market.
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
Fancy pivots (and stand-offs) tend to be a lot like fancy hub caps on an automobile: kind of gaudy and generally unnecessary.
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
*shakes fist* Why I oughta..... :Dpalonej wrote:Hey, but the tool will only cost you $75! What a bargain!
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
Colored stand-off if it's subtle and a part of the overall design.
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
I'll expand on this- the other thing I can't stand is different fastener types on one knife.....Why certain makers insist upon mixing Phillps head, slot head AND torx head hardware on a knife that's barely 6" long overall I can't fathom.demoncase wrote:If it ties in with the overall aesthetic of the knife- Then sure, why not?....
The only thing that I have a raging hatred of is any pivot* that requires a proprietary one-off tool to adjust....Really Mr Custom Knife Maker, because you thought your superduper mobius styled fastener head was somehow magically better than a torx fastener?- One born every minute.
*Or indeed any other part of the hardware
It always looks like they ran out of one type and went 'That'll do" when they found the right thread length in the bits box.
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
I love the way the pivot was executed on the Rubicon. Not only is the pivot finished better than some other production knife "decorative" pivots, it is a signature of Peter Carey's work.
However, not every decorative pivot screw is created equal. Some other brands use them on the majority of their knives, and the pivots aren't always finished as nicely as I'd like.
Unless a fancy pivot screw is done very nicely, I'd rather have a plain domed or flat Torx screw. Colored, anodized, or otherwise decorative standoff or backspacers are perfectly fine with me, provided they fit with the aesthetic of the knife.
And I loathe proprietary hardware screws.
However, not every decorative pivot screw is created equal. Some other brands use them on the majority of their knives, and the pivots aren't always finished as nicely as I'd like.
Unless a fancy pivot screw is done very nicely, I'd rather have a plain domed or flat Torx screw. Colored, anodized, or otherwise decorative standoff or backspacers are perfectly fine with me, provided they fit with the aesthetic of the knife.
And I loathe proprietary hardware screws.

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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
2/10, do not care
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
Spyderco's isnt all about adding things for the eye alone, but I certainly wouldn't complain to see a splash of ano'd green or something contrast against carbon fiber scales :)
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
Fancy flair has a chance of alienating an audience before they give the knife a fair look.
I also like giving third-party modders something to build off of.
I also like giving third-party modders something to build off of.
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
The Rubicon pivot was what I was thinking about when I started the thread, it's one of those design features that draws your eye. I think it would be pretty cool to see Spyderco use some different pivots and stand offs on certain models and I don't think it would add much cost.Able Dog wrote:I love the way the pivot was executed on the Rubicon. Not only is the pivot finished better than some other production knife "decorative" pivots, it is a signature of Peter Carey's work.
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
I wouldn't mind if pivot screws were changed to a more commonly found bit type, even a deep cut flat head screwdriver. Something easy to find just in case you needed it. I don't always have torx bits with me and even finding them in typical stores isn't easy.
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Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
I like the simple but elegant fastners used by companies like Shirogorov and if you don't want to spend the money on the custom bits needed they are easy enough to manufacturer your own bit. For the most part though I subscribe to the KISS principle, "Keep It Simple Stupid" which would translate to using industry standard fastners like they currently due, torx, allen head, etc... I am all for the addition of contrasting colors when it can be done economically, something like anodized toxic green spacers with carbon fiber scales.
Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
I like the Rubicon look as well. I also like what Benchmade did with the 484-1, 940-1. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the blue anodizing looks classy with the CF IMHO.
Agreed about the fasteners. We should not need specialized tools, but I do like torx because of its superiority to most when it comes to damage resistance.
Agreed about the fasteners. We should not need specialized tools, but I do like torx because of its superiority to most when it comes to damage resistance.
Re: Your thoughts on fancy pivots and colored stand offs?
My thoughts on these are generally the same as for "Skittle" colored scales...purple, bright green, pink, etc.. To each his own. However I do appreciate fine finished details like on the Gayle Bradley 2.