SAGE Series

[ladybug93]

there are a lot of differences in those models besides steel. if you prioritize steel, i would get a model that has what you want. maybe the para 3 is what you're looking for? it's closer to the sage than the native and there have been a lot of exclusives in different steels. i'm all for a sage 5 lw salt or another steel though.

[p_atrick]

I can only speak of the Sage 2, but size, comfort, ergos, etc. are all fantastic. You get an awful lot besides the steel with this model.

[Spicy Suplex]

there are a lot of differences in those models besides steel. if you prioritize steel, i would get a model that has what you want. maybe the para 3 is what you're looking for? it's closer to the sage than the native and there have been a lot of exclusives in different steels. i'm all for a sage 5 lw salt or another steel though.

Did you say Salt a model that hasn't been salted yet? Sorry, I'm legally required to say this: Yes please

...Taiwan already does those salty comp locks for the Caribbean, might be a match made in heaven? But the pesky nestled liners, hmm...

[ladybug93]

there are a lot of differences in those models besides steel. if you prioritize steel, i would get a model that has what you want. maybe the para 3 is what you're looking for? it's closer to the sage than the native and there have been a lot of exclusives in different steels. i'm all for a sage 5 lw salt or another steel though.

Did you say Salt a model that hasn't been salted yet? Sorry, I'm legally required to say this: Yes please

...Taiwan already does those salty comp locks for the Caribbean, might be a match made in heaven? But the pesky nestled liners, hmm...

those pesky nested liners mean aftermarket scales are an option. i'd love a micarta sage 5.

[Spicy Suplex]

My thought was less to the fact that they simply exist, and moreso wondering if water trapped in(under) those will rust even the most rustproof of materials with time?

Edited to say: I guess we don't worry about water in our Salt pivots.... so why should this be any different? D'oh!

[Sharp24/7]

Thanks for setting me straight in the steel front everyone. The N5 and Sage 5 two mid-size Spydies I’m most interested in. Does anyone have any thoughts on how they stack up in terms of cutting ability/sliceiness? I bought an N5 Salt as gift for a friend, and a Sage 5 for another friend, and having handled both its a wash ergonomically speaking IMO.

[JSumm]

Thanks for setting me straight in the steel front everyone. The N5 and Sage 5 two mid-size Spydies I’m most interested in. Does anyone have any thoughts on how they stack up in terms of cutting ability/sliceiness? I bought an N5 Salt as gift for a friend, and a Sage 5 for another friend, and having handled both its a wash ergonomically speaking IMO.

Sage 5 has a blade stock thickness of .118" vs .125" of the Native 5. If that helps. I think the biggest difference is ergos. The Sage has a slightly larger handle. A little more room for your hand. The Native has a straight spine. A different feel when cutting. Some like it, some prefer a little hump. Both are great in my opinion. Different locks. Which both are great examples of their respective lock types.

[agm]

Wow, that's one heck of a Sage 5 collection you've got there!! Nicely done!

Thank you for the kind words! It's a lot of fun to see the Sage family slowly grow.

[wrdwrght]

Sage 5 has a blade stock thickness of .118" vs .125" of the Native 5. If that helps. I think the biggest difference is ergos. The Sage has a slightly larger handle. A little more room for your hand. The Native has a straight spine. A different feel when cutting. Some like it, some prefer a little hump. Both are great in my opinion. Different locks. Which both are great examples of their respective lock types.

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[JSumm]

Sage 5 has a blade stock thickness of .118" vs .125" of the Native 5. If that helps. I think the biggest difference is ergos. The Sage has a slightly larger handle. A little more room for your hand. The Native has a straight spine. A different feel when cutting. Some like it, some prefer a little hump. Both are great in my opinion. Different locks. Which both are great examples of their respective lock types.

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Sorry, no thumb ramp vs thumb ramp. Straight ramp.

[Bemo]

Personally they seem to me more similar than dissimilar. I look at the Sage 5 as the comp lock version of the N5. But the blade thickness is slightly less on the Sage.

[Sharp24/7]

I was wondering if the N5’s swedge and the Sage’s thinner stock and taller blade would even things out.

[Bemo]

Well got the calipers out. I'm surprised. My SageLW M4 and my N5LW Rex45 have identical BTE thickness of 0.023 inches. Thickness up at the spydie hole is also almost an identical 0.11. I wouldn't have thought that before. Now I don't think I'm going to measure all my N5's or Sage 5's. Well at least not tonight, lol.

[ladybug93]

that surprises me too. i would've expected the n5 to be thicker. that makes me want a sage less because bte thickness is the one thing i don't prefer about the native. i never had a hollow grind native, but i think the blade looked better and i bet it was a better cutting tool.

[Bemo]

I might dig some of my other N5's out later today. I'm pretty positive most of mine are on the thicker side.

[Cl1ff]

There is going to be some variation with large productions like this. Apparently, others have examples of Sages with thinner edges (like 0.015ish) and I’d bet some Natives have thinner or thicker edges too.
Spyderco might also intentionally adjust things like edge thickness slightly for a variety of reasons.

You’d need official word from Spyderco or a much larger and more comprehensive sample of their knives to say anything about whether one knife is consistently ground a few thousandths thinner/thicker.

While I don’t mean to suggest Bemo in particular did it wrong, I think there’s also a good chance that people are just not good at reliably measuring things like that and you have to take these sorts of measurements with a grain of salt.
One way to mitigate that last bit is to show your work so everyone can be confident in the results.

I’d personally prefer that most Spyderco folding knives don’t exceed 0.020 bte, however we’re all aware of why going thinner has its challenges in the broader knife market.

[djinnzfree]

received money to spend... did someones got new regarding the new Sage for late 2022 or 2023 release?

[Bolster]

I own x3 Sages, but have a prejudice against them, because I blame them for taking the Caly's place in the lineup. The two models have similarities, and if I couldn't carry a Caly, I'd carry a Sage instead. But as long as the 3" Caly is available, it usually beats the Sages to the pocket.

Getting an M4 Sage messed with my system, though. I like the steel so well, that I now suffer from cognitive dissonance.