LC200N / Caribbean SE torture test gauntlet of death

[Evil D]

Thank you for the test.

Also, that's an expensive bone :D

I put it in a Ziploc bag in the fridge for future testing


At least until it spoils.

I need a SE Pacific...for SCIENCE
🧬🧫🧪

[Jazz]

With rolls like that, I personally would have steeled them backwards (on an actual grooved steel) to straighten before sharpening. That's just me. It might cause the rolls to break off. I don't know.

[Woodpuppy]

Thank you for the test.

Also, that's an expensive bone :D

I put it in a Ziploc bag in the fridge for future testing


At least until it spoils.

I need a SE Pacific...for SCIENCE
🧬🧫🧪

Go set it near an ant hill. They’ll pick it clean and the bone will last for nearly ever.

[ladybug93]

every time this thread comes up, i get a slight panicky feeling of needing a caribbean. thanks for sharing your testing with us. :)

[Sumdumguy]

every time this thread comes up, i get a slight panicky feeling of needing a caribbean. thanks for sharing your testing with us. :)

Never go against your gut! :p

[Evil D]

every time this thread comes up, i get a slight panicky feeling of needing a caribbean. thanks for sharing your testing with us. :)

Well then I'll try to post more often :D

[Sonorum]

every time this thread comes up, i get a slight panicky feeling of needing a caribbean. thanks for sharing your testing with us. :)

Well then I'll try to post more often :D

Same here you bastard :p Everytime I talk myself out of it, this thread pops up. You might want to talk with Sal about royalties. How thick is the Caribbean behind the edge? Just at the tops of one of the big scallops on say the middle of the blade? I'd curious to compare it to my Endela.

Perhaps you can test the glass fibre "carpet" that you use when building foundations for building. I have no idea what it's called in english but it's absolute death to the sharpness of knife blades. Or fibre glass insulation, that's nasty as well.

[Pancake]

I need a SE Pacific...for SCIENCE

You are MADMAN!

But if it is for science, go ahead :D

[Evil D]

every time this thread comes up, i get a slight panicky feeling of needing a caribbean. thanks for sharing your testing with us. :)

Well then I'll try to post more often :D

Same here you bastard :p Everytime I talk myself out of it, this thread pops up. You might want to talk with Sal about royalties. How thick is the Caribbean behind the edge? Just at the tops of one of the big scallops on say the middle of the blade? I'd curious to compare it to my Endela.

Perhaps you can test the glass fibre "carpet" that you use when building foundations for building. I have no idea what it's called in english but it's absolute death to the sharpness of knife blades. Or fibre glass insulation, that's nasty as well.

I'm not sure what that is either but I think I have some old carpet scraps rolled up in the garage I can cut up. I also plan on getting some car battery terminals (very thick copper).

Thickness behind the edge is kinda hard to measure. It's obviously thicker than a PE but then the bevel is also twice as wide but only on half the blade so I'm not even sure how you'd compare those numbers. I would expect that if you measured at the same height as a typical PE bevel, a SE bevel is thinner. The SE bevel being so wide, I also look at them as a ghetto convex since they transition into the blade grind much smoother than a 30 inclusive PE bevel does. I also can't really measure my Caribbeans since they're both heavily sharpened at this point so the numbers wouldn't really be comparable to other knives. Maybe we should add SE to the behind the edge database just to compare those edges amongst themselves.

[Evil D]

I need a SE Pacific...for SCIENCE

You are MADMAN!

But if it is for science, go ahead :D

I just think the big question still is how does LC compare to H1, that debate will never die so however cool these tests are people will still wonder how H1 would handle them.

[Sonorum]

every time this thread comes up, i get a slight panicky feeling of needing a caribbean. thanks for sharing your testing with us. :)

Well then I'll try to post more often :D

Same here you bastard :p Everytime I talk myself out of it, this thread pops up. You might want to talk with Sal about royalties. How thick is the Caribbean behind the edge? Just at the tops of one of the big scallops on say the middle of the blade? I'd curious to compare it to my Endela.

Perhaps you can test the glass fibre "carpet" that you use when building foundations for building. I have no idea what it's called in english but it's absolute death to the sharpness of knife blades. Or fibre glass insulation, that's nasty as well.

I'm not sure what that is either but I think I have some old carpet scraps rolled up in the garage I can cut up. I also plan on getting some car battery terminals (very thick copper).

Thickness behind the edge is kinda hard to measure. It's obviously thicker than a PE but then the bevel is also twice as wide but only on half the blade so I'm not even sure how you'd compare those numbers. I would expect that if you measured at the same height as a typical PE bevel, a SE bevel is thinner. The SE bevel being so wide, I also look at them as a ghetto convex since they transition into the blade grind much smoother than a 30 inclusive PE bevel does. I also can't really measure my Caribbeans since they're both heavily sharpened at this point so the numbers wouldn't really be comparable to other knives. Maybe we should add SE to the behind the edge database just to compare those edges amongst themselves.

Yeah I could have clarified that it is a serrated Endela that I was looking to compare.

[Evil D]

Food prep? How about a big'ol pickle for some burgers :cool:






It is really only limited by how steady your hand is. Would I choose this over a kitchen knife? Heck no, but I'm bored and it honestly cut better than a crappy half dull kitchen knife. The serrations made short work of the rind and it would even push cut through no problem. It would slice as thinly as you're able to slice.

[Wartstein]

Food prep? How about a big'ol pickle for some burgers :cool:

... You´re really a man of his word, David! :D viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86214#p1407190

[Evil D]

Food prep? How about a big'ol pickle for some burgers :cool:

... You´re really a man of his word, David! :D viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86214#p1407190

I get pretty passionate about things I really believe in. I truly believe this knife and steel is the best EDC available right now. LC/SE is magical. I'm convinced this knife can't be beat, at least until another design comes that dethrones it.

[Wartstein]

Food prep? How about a big'ol pickle for some burgers :cool:

... You´re really a man of his word, David! :D viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86214#p1407190

I get pretty passionate about things I really believe in. I truly believe this knife and steel is the best EDC available right now. LC/SE is magical. I'm convinced this knife can't be beat, at least until another design comes that dethrones it.

I really should get and try one... you know that I became a believer in ffg SE, and the Caribbean has a lot more features I really appreciate.
Not much to NOT like here:
Would prefer a backlock, but the comp. lock is just fine too in most scenarios, and a bit more PE portion towards the tip, but that´s about it.

[Monty]

As much as I love this thread I wish we had more knives in serrated lc200n and another steel to directly compare. The native 5 is the only one that comes to mind.

[Sumdumguy]

Food prep? How about a big'ol pickle for some burgers :cool:

... You´re really a man of his word, David! :D viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86214#p1407190

I get pretty passionate about things I really believe in. I truly believe this knife and steel is the best EDC available right now. LC/SE is magical. I'm convinced this knife can't be beat, at least until another design comes that dethrones it.

It is a magnificent thing, this knife. I am waiting on my blade to come back. A few more months, probably.

In it's absence, I have been impressed with the Ulize. But, I miss my Caribbean...

[Evil D]

As much as I love this thread I wish we had more knives in serrated lc200n and another steel to directly compare. The native 5 is the only one that comes to mind.

Yeah it's a bummer I don't have a more direct comparison in H1. I could do all these tests with a Pacific and I guess try to ignore the difference in slicing, some of that stuff wouldn't cut much different in a hollow grind but the tire and tree branches and drywall may not slice as well.

I don't blame them for sticking with H1 in the Japanese Salts, they're established and proven models in a familiar steel for those who use those knives for professional jobs. I hope they end up making a lot of the Golden models in LC200N.

[Evil D]

It is a magnificent thing, this knife. I am waiting on my blade to come back. A few more months, probably.

In it's absence, I have been impressed with the Ulize. But, I miss my Caribbean...

Come back from where?


I really wish they would have done a SE Ulize. That knife would be a monster in full SE and it might dethrone every other folder I carry. One of my dream knives would be a SE Ulize Salt with a slightly taller blade height in FFG/LC200N, with rounded/contoured FRN bidirectional scales in screw together construction like the Native 5 Salt. A guy can dream I guess.

[Sumdumguy]

It is a magnificent thing, this knife. I am waiting on my blade to come back. A few more months, probably.

In it's absence, I have been impressed with the Ulize. But, I miss my Caribbean...

Come back from where?


I really wish they would have done a SE Ulize. That knife would be a monster in full SE and it might dethrone every other folder I carry. One of my dream knives would be a SE Ulize Salt with a slightly taller blade height in FFG/LC200N, with rounded/contoured FRN bidirectional scales in screw together construction like the Native 5 Salt. A guy can dream I guess.

To a very special friend

As for the Ulize, the blade shape makes SE less necessary. Infact, it's probably my new favorite blade shape. Truly a beast, fiercely competing with the Caribbean.