SAGE Series
- billdoier72
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Re: SAGE Series
I would love to see more Sage 5 variations. The compression lock is perfection. We just need more steel and scale choices.
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- Manifestgtr
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Re: SAGE Series
Cruwear Sage 5 lightweight is my holy grail Spyderco
I have a pair of micarta scales waiting…the day may never come but if it does, I’m immediately buying two. One will be THE crucarta 3” in my collection and the other will remain stock forever.
I have a pair of micarta scales waiting…the day may never come but if it does, I’m immediately buying two. One will be THE crucarta 3” in my collection and the other will remain stock forever.
Crucarta: Shaman (x2), Manix 2, Lil Native, Delica, GB2 & PM2
Notable: 52100 and Cruwear Millie. “15v-arta” Shaman. REC Manix. K-carta Endura, P4, Dragonfly and Delica.
Favorites: Shaman, Sage 5 lightweight, Sheeps Caribbean, Manix, Endela and all things Stretch
Notable: 52100 and Cruwear Millie. “15v-arta” Shaman. REC Manix. K-carta Endura, P4, Dragonfly and Delica.
Favorites: Shaman, Sage 5 lightweight, Sheeps Caribbean, Manix, Endela and all things Stretch
Re: SAGE Series
I'm one to support more unconventional additions to the series like the lightweight Sage 5 and Maxamet Sage 1, and my most wanted Spyderco Folder is probably a Rex121 Sage 5 lightweight (which i believe exists in some form as a testing sample for the steel because Sal said he was carrying one a while ago), but I've already made my case for those variations before.
So, in regards to locks, my suggestions are as follows: a Caged Ball Bearing Lock; the Integral Compression Lock; Button Lock or Button Compression Lock like the Smock; perhaps a Demko lock; a Ken Onion assisted opening mechanism; an Auto of some variety; and maybe Snecx's "Super Lock". Forgot the Stop Lock.
Ideas for new materials to be used in any of those include aluminum handles like the recent PM2s and BD1N steel.
Since I cant help myself, I want to mention serrations and color variations of the Sage 5 lightweight too.
So, in regards to locks, my suggestions are as follows: a Caged Ball Bearing Lock; the Integral Compression Lock; Button Lock or Button Compression Lock like the Smock; perhaps a Demko lock; a Ken Onion assisted opening mechanism; an Auto of some variety; and maybe Snecx's "Super Lock". Forgot the Stop Lock.
Ideas for new materials to be used in any of those include aluminum handles like the recent PM2s and BD1N steel.
Since I cant help myself, I want to mention serrations and color variations of the Sage 5 lightweight too.
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rex121 is the king of steel, but nature’s teeth have been cutting for hundreds of millions of years and counting :cool:
Re: SAGE Series
I love the Sage 5. I own 4 of them with custom scales but would also love to see it in more steel variations like the Para 3. That would be the bomb. I carry two Spyderco knives with me every day and one is always the Sage 5. Perfect "EDC" for me. I carry it around my neck most of the time.
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This is reason enough to me to have as many Sage variations as possible:
spyderco.com wrote: National Alzheimer's Association
Spyderco will donate approximately 5% of sales of the Sage line to the National Alzheimer's Association Denver, Colorado Chapter. The Alzheimer's Association is the leading voluntary health organization in Alzheimer care, support and research. Their mission is to eliminate Alzheimer's disease through the advancement of research; to provide and enhance care and support for all affected; and to reduce the risk of dementia through the promotion of brain health. Contributions to the Alzheimer's Association provide care and support to families in Colorado coping with Alzheimer's disease as well as fund national programs and research to ultimately find a cure. Visit www.alz.org/co to learn more about how your support makes a difference.
Re: SAGE Series
It's been said in this thread that the purpose of the Sage series is to showcase locks. That's true, but there's much more to it than that. Each of the Sage models appears to be near equally as much a tribute to the innovative person who designed that lock as much as the lock itself. If one goes and reads the descriptions of each Sage model on the Spyderco website, this purpose is much more evident:
And while the description of the Sage 5 doesn't say it, the Sage 5 acknowledges the contributions of innovative knifemaker Sal Glesser.
Given that the Sage 5 is the Sal Glesser model even though Sal is too modest to put that in print, it really doesn't seem out of line to have exclusives/sprints/whatever in multiple steels.
--Christian
spyderco.com wrote: The purpose of the Sage Series is to acknowledge the contributions of innovative knifemakers and give credit where credit is due.
And while the description of the Sage 5 doesn't say it, the Sage 5 acknowledges the contributions of innovative knifemaker Sal Glesser.
Given that the Sage 5 is the Sal Glesser model even though Sal is too modest to put that in print, it really doesn't seem out of line to have exclusives/sprints/whatever in multiple steels.
--Christian
Re: SAGE Series
I'm eagerly waiting to see if the CBBL can be scaled down to fit into the Sage.
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Re: SAGE Series
If a BBL can be done on the Q-Ball, a CBBL can be done on the Sage. I might even buy 2 if they did it.
Re: SAGE Series
Bocote Wood scales
Original Carbon Fiber
Desert Ironwood
OD Green Micarta
Glow in the Dark (daytime)
Glow in the Dark (at night)
Love my Sages...
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Re: SAGE Series
I’ve heard so much negative about S30V that I’m wondering if it’s worth holding out for another steel.
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Re: SAGE Series
I would be in for a new lockback sage it would not need to be as fancy as the old one but i find the lockback its ambidextrous features to important to just stop making it like they did.
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I have tons of s30v spydies and i have not a single one that i can say anything negative about.
That is just gossip from all the steeljunkys because they can not live anymore without there super steels.
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Let me guess...youtube??
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Re: SAGE Series
I have been looking at the Sage a lot , I think I would prefer it over the Para 3 . Really not too concerned about steel choice if I maybe only have one in collection. The foundation it contributes to is a wonderful gesture and has meaning to me . MG2
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You heard ?! Well, it must be true
Marius
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( Rabindranath Tagore )
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Re: SAGE Series
It’s a mad world we live in where S30V causes noses to turn up at the prospect of owning it. It’s a powder metallurgy, high-vanadium steel designed specifically for cutlery purposes and Spyderco does a wonderful heat treatment on it. If anyone can point out a real-world scenario where a more “super” steel has succeeded where S30V has failed I would love to hear about it.
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Wishlist: Cruwear Military, Super Blue Caly 3.5
Favorite Steels: CTS-XHP, Cruwear, ZDP-189, LC200N
Wishlist: Cruwear Military, Super Blue Caly 3.5
Favorite Steels: CTS-XHP, Cruwear, ZDP-189, LC200N
Re: SAGE Series
I’m not anti-S30V, but when I compare the price of a Sage 5 LW to the price of a Native 5 LW in Spy27, LC200N, or Magnacut, knowing those steels all have superior toughness, equal of superior ease of sharpening, and equal or superior corrosion resistance, why would I settle for less? The only edge S30V has (pun intended) is in edge retention, and at the hardness it’s offered, I’m better off with a Chap LW for significantly less $. Or if I want to spend more, I’d look at K390 or S90V.
Re: SAGE Series
Hi Sharp24/7,
Perhaps you are limiting yourself. With blade steels, "All good, just different".
I like chocolate better than strawberry, but that doesn't make it better.
sal.
Perhaps you are limiting yourself. With blade steels, "All good, just different".
I like chocolate better than strawberry, but that doesn't make it better.
sal.
Re: SAGE Series
Something to consider.Sharp24/7 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:23 pmI’m not anti-S30V, but when I compare the price of a Sage 5 LW to the price of a Native 5 LW in Spy27, LC200N, or Magnacut, knowing those steels all have superior toughness, equal of superior ease of sharpening, and equal or superior corrosion resistance, why would I settle for less? The only edge S30V has (pun intended) is in edge retention, and at the hardness it’s offered, I’m better off with a Chap LW for significantly less $. Or if I want to spend more, I’d look at K390 or S90V.
I think the problem with comparing the Sage to the Native in price is the steel is not nescessarily causing the increase here. I would bet if the Sage were to get a SPY27 version it would be significantly more than the standard S30V version due to the former's higher cost being a propriatary steel for Spyderco.
If you are comparing prices between the models, a better example would be the Blade HQ Native 5 Exclusive (DLC - $134; Satin - $119) vs. the Blade HQ Sage 5 Exclusive (DLC - $164; Satin - $154). Same steel and same Dealer Exclusive and they came out around the same time. Sage is just a more expensive model. Could be the Taichung factory is more expensive to order through. Could be that they have to export the steel then import it back (back and forth). Could be demand for the Sage 5 is higher. Could be the material and parts, plus machining is more. Who knows but Spyderco. Point it is, you are not nescessarily settling. Just getting a different model with other options that people may or may not value more.
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