Is MAP pricing % changing come 2022?

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I was checking retailers to see what the 2022 price of the Paysan might be. From $550 last year, it jumps to a whopping $644 if a new run comes out this year.

It's definitely out of reach to me now.

https://www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-rassenti-paysan

https://knifeworks.com/spyderco-paysan- ... um-handle/
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I've noticed the price increases in effect at most of the on-line dealers I purchase from. Reality is here and very concrete now. Kapara went from $203 to $223. I should have taken advantage of year end deals.

With the slight downtick in my interest in knife collecting and the slight uptick in pricing, I can already sense a ginormous shift in my knife purchasing habit.
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are other companies increasing prices 10-15% each year? i know there are some knives of other brands that seem to be the same price as when i bought them years ago.
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cycleguy wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:10 am
I've noticed the price increases in effect at most of the on-line dealers I purchase from. Reality is here and very concrete now. Kapara went from $203 to $223. I should have taken advantage of year end deals.

With the slight downtick in my interest in knife collecting and the slight uptick in pricing, I can already sense a ginormous shift in my knife purchasing habit.
Wow.

That's starting to get into some decent quality hand-crafted Japanese kitchen knives that you can actually use everyday and that slice like a dream.
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I might just start contacting multiple retailers and asking for the best possible price before I buy a knife from now on. Whoever offers me the best price gets the sale.
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mikey177 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:50 am
I was checking retailers to see what the 2022 price of the Paysan might be. From $550 last year, it jumps to a whopping $644 if a new run comes out this year.

It's definitely out of reach to me now.

Paysan was $560 last year and now it’ll be $644 if it gets restocked. Street prices for all Taichung models have increased by 15% over last year.
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Well on the brightside you can sell your old Spydies for more now.
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I bought a Brand new CRK LG sebenza 3 years ago for $450....the price has not gone up and they have a new revision with updated blade steel. So why do spyderco prices go up every year it seems, even more so this year?!....if CRK can keep their prices the same year in and year out, why not spyderco?....just sayin.
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My CRK Small Sebenza 21 was $350 in 2013 and now the enhanced CRK Small Sebenza 31 is $375!
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It seems CRK has always had, shall we say, very healthy margins. They also have not spent time, money, and energy on a large array of new and/or widely different designs. That all helps them keep their high street prices steady.

Sal has explained how Spyderco derives its prices for each model in previous posts.

We, as a group, cannot complain about increased costs while also demanding so many new models. TANSTAAFL
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mikey177 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:50 am
I was checking retailers to see what the 2022 price of the Paysan might be. From $550 last year, it jumps to a whopping $644 if a new run comes out this year.

It's definitely out of reach to me now.

https://www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-rassenti-paysan

https://knifeworks.com/spyderco-paysan- ... um-handle/
Wow, I thought this knife was sold at $800. Can't find it under 800€ in Europe (and, can't find it at all most of the time).
The French facbook group I'm in is full of people with gigantic collections, there are several Paysans in there, lucky people they are :camping
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JRinFL wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:30 pm
It seems CRK has always had, shall we say, very healthy margins. They also have not spent time, money, and energy on a large array of new and/or widely different designs. That all helps them keep their high street prices steady.

Sal has explained how Spyderco derives its prices for each model in previous posts.

We, as a group, cannot complain about increased costs while also demanding so many new models. TANSTAAFL
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mikey177 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:50 am
I was checking retailers to see what the 2022 price of the Paysan might be. From $550 last year, it jumps to a whopping $644 if a new run comes out this year.

It's definitely out of reach to me now.

https://www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-rassenti-paysan

https://knifeworks.com/spyderco-paysan- ... um-handle/
$550 last year was out of reach for me :hot-face
So many knives - so little funds!!!
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mikey177 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:50 am
I was checking retailers to see what the 2022 price of the Paysan might be. From $550 last year, it jumps to a whopping $644 if a new run comes out this year.

It's definitely out of reach to me now.

https://www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-rassenti-paysan

https://knifeworks.com/spyderco-paysan- ... um-handle/
That's exactly why I jumped at the opportunity to buy one during the online seconds sale. I knew the price was only going to be higher in the future
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Sadly, I'm in another continent so no seconds sale action for me.

And the Paysan's new price of $644 pits it squarely against some midtechs and customs, which I also cannot afford :rofl
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mikey177 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 6:01 pm
Sadly, I'm in another continent so no seconds sale action for me.

And the Paysan's new price of $644 pits it squarely against some midtechs and customs, which I also cannot afford :rofl
I was referring to the one-time online sale that they did last year. IIRC, they did ship to other countries. I don't recall if it was worth it for some (I assume so). Anyway, my point was that the Paysan would be out of my reach too if it wasn't for that one opportunity. I wanted a Paysan since they were released but the price was tough for me. When I saw they had them for sale during the online sale I couldn't pay fast enough.

I do sympathize with you.
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Sharp Guy wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:16 pm
mikey177 wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 6:01 pm
Sadly, I'm in another continent so no seconds sale action for me.

And the Paysan's new price of $644 pits it squarely against some midtechs and customs, which I also cannot afford :rofl
I was referring to the one-time online sale that they did last year. IIRC, they did ship to other countries. I don't recall if it was worth it for some (I assume so). Anyway, my point was that the Paysan would be out of my reach too if it wasn't for that one opportunity. I wanted a Paysan since they were released but the price was tough for me. When I saw they had them for sale during the online sale I couldn't pay fast enough.

I do sympathize with you.

Thank you.

I did try getting onto the website during the online seconds sale, but my connection wasn't good enough. Congratulations on scoring one. Maybe I'll be able to find one for a good price in the coming years :smlling-eyes
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JRinFL wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:30 pm
It seems CRK has always had, shall we say, very healthy margins. They also have not spent time, money, and energy on a large array of new and/or widely different designs. That all helps them keep their high street prices steady.

Sal has explained how Spyderco derives its prices for each model in previous posts.

We, as a group, cannot complain about increased costs while also demanding so many new models. TANSTAAFL
Agree 100%. I see posts all over instagram saying stuff like "Spyderco is so boring, why do they keep making a million PM2 sprints and not come out with new models?", most notably from a former youtuber with 5k subs, and as he flashes his 50th purchase of a mini-griptilian in a different colour :grin-squint :grin-squint

1) PM2s sell like hotcakes, why would they not?
2) Spyderco has quite literally come out with at least 2-3 new models every year, from lots of different designers, and many sprints in different steels and every variation you could imagine, at least in the past 5 years I've been collecting. How can you even seriously complain about choice?

I also like CRK, I have 3 sebenzas and a Mnandi, but they're always strangely protected from the "why don't they produce any new models, or a flipper or sprint runs" criticism, or "overpriced" criticism, at least by knife nerds. It's like when Apple started pricing phones at $1000+ as standard, and people just accepted it, while any other company doing it was crossing some line :thinking
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buckleys wrote:
Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:07 pm
2) Spyderco has quite literally come out with at least 2-3 new models every year, from lots of different designers, and many sprints in different steels and every variation you could imagine, at least in the past 5 years I've been collecting.

Spyderco released 126 new models in 2021 which is a record. Of these, 74 (59%) were Sprint Runs, Dealer/Distributor Exclusives and Mule Teams (another record). Only 1 of these 126 new models was a new design: Pattadese. The rest are variations in blade steel, blade style, blade grind, blade coating, blade finish, blade edge (plain, partially serrated, fully serrated), handle material, handle color, etc.
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