CPM 15v Manix 2

[ladybug93]

every time this (now these) threads pop up, i have a mini heart attack while the voice in my head screams, "IT'S GO TIME!!!"

[vanka]

They're going to fly off the shelves in matter of minutes. BBB's 15V is with a Magnacut level of hype. I subscribed for email notification once they have it, but I won't be surprised if they're oos before the email arrives. It happened many times before.

[TkoK83Spy]

every time this (now these) threads pop up, i have a mini heart attack while the voice in my head screams, "IT'S GO TIME!!!"

Here ya go brother!

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=93745

[ladybug93]

every time this (now these) threads pop up, i have a mini heart attack while the voice in my head screams, "IT'S GO TIME!!!"

Here ya go brother!

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=93745

thanks. that's one of the threads i was referring to. when i saw it last night i thought it was time. i haven't even had a chance to clear the purchase with the cfo yet, which is why i'm freaking out a little when i see the threads rise to the top again. i need to have that conversation so i can be ready.

[electro-static]

every time this (now these) threads pop up, i have a mini heart attack while the voice in my head screams, "IT'S GO TIME!!!"

Here ya go brother!

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=93745

thanks. that's one of the threads i was referring to. when i saw it last night i thought it was time. i haven't even had a chance to clear the purchase with the cfo yet, which is why i'm freaking out a little when i see the threads rise to the top again. i need to have that conversation so i can be ready.

I’m sure there will be some type of hint, although with the large number of retailers carrying them I hope they wouldn’t sell out within an hour.

[WilliamMunny]

every time this (now these) threads pop up, i have a mini heart attack while the voice in my head screams, "IT'S GO TIME!!!"

Here ya go brother!

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=93745

thanks. that's one of the threads i was referring to. when i saw it last night i thought it was time. i haven't even had a chance to clear the purchase with the cfo yet, which is why i'm freaking out a little when i see the threads rise to the top again. i need to have that conversation so i can be ready.

Same here, I am even second guessing buying it. I just bought a new Tahoe two days ago and a seconds Native 5 Maxamet. While the BBB is awesome… I am having trouble justifying it to myself let alone my wife. I still have not mentioned the Native 5 I purchased to my wife.

I have a Manix and now a Maxamet knife (simular to 15v), other than the coolness factor I have absolutely no need for this knife… but like the rest of us, I still want it.

[ladybug93]

Same here, I am even second guessing buying it. I just bought a new Tahoe two days ago and a seconds Native 5 Maxamet. While the BBB is awesome… I am having trouble justifying it to myself let alone my wife.

I have a Manix and now a Maxamet knife, other than the coolness factor I have absolutely no need for this knife… but like the rest of us, I still want it.

the manix has always been a favorite for me. i've tried lots of other knives at this point and i liked almost all of them, but i've happily settled on the manix as my favorite after finally acquiring two g10 versions this year. prior to that, i only had a lw and hadn't picked up a g10 manix yet. now that i have both, i can really say it's the one for me. anyway, since it's clearly my favorite, it's time to start bringing in variants that are meaningful, of which this is obviously one. i don't typically mess with tool steels or steels with high edge retention, so i figure it's time to try it out with this one. between that and the magnacut m2lw on the horizon, it would be really hard to want anything else besides a large se salt, like the caribbean sheepsfoot se or the pacific salt se.

[ladybug93]

bbb, how does the patina/corrosion resistance of this 15v compare to that of k390 for you so far? i typically prefer stainless steels and salts, but i'm considering venturing into your realm here. i have tool steel fixed blades and some folders in d2, so i'm not completely foreign to keeping knives from rusting. just curious what to expect. thanks!

[Cowboyfromhell]

Any one think this is dropping before xmas or deep into the winter like February??....

[ladybug93]

Any one think this is dropping before xmas or deep into the winter like February??....

i really hope it's after the new year, or at least after Christmas. my rec manix purchase from october is already my Christmas gift.

[Deadboxhero]

bbb, how does the patina/corrosion resistance of this 15v compare to that of k390 for you so far? i typically prefer stainless steels and salts, but i'm considering venturing into your realm here. i have tool steel fixed blades and some folders in d2, so i'm not completely foreign to keeping knives from rusting. just curious what to expect. thanks!

I covered this in a previous post in this thread a page or so back.

The difference would be marginal in real world use between the corrosion resistance of k390 and CPM 15V. There is not enough chromium in solution with the Matrix in either of these steels for there to be a big enough difference between them.


Now I'm sure in controlled testing we can find some small differences between 10V, K390, 15V, Maxamet
But it's one of those cases where we have to ask ourselves "is it enough to matter in reality?"

In reality, all people need to know is it's not going to be as reactive as 52100 and 1095, but it is also going to be more reactive than 3V and Cruwear (depending heat treatment of 3v/cruwear)


D2 will be more "corrosion resistant" than 15V

D2 is less "corrosion resistant" than 3V and Cruwear

Don't get this confused though, D2, 3V, Cruwear, 15V, 10V, K390, Maxamet etc are NOT stainless steels.

[Deadboxhero]

Important concepts for curious folks to read and understand some.

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2018/06/11/ ... stainless/

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/10/14/ ... e-testing/

[RamZar]

Hopefully, this Manix2 CPM-15V Brown G-10 Sprint Run is released this month for a street price of $157.50 before the inevitable price increases come January 2023.

[ladybug93]

I covered this in a previous post in this thread a page or so back.

The difference would be marginal in real world use between the corrosion resistance of k390 and CPM 15V.

sorry. i may have missed it or just forgotten since i read it. i don't have experience with k390 or 15v, so i thought i'd ask the expert.

[Deadboxhero]

I covered this in a previous post in this thread a page or so back.

The difference would be marginal in real world use between the corrosion resistance of k390 and CPM 15V.

sorry. i may have missed it or just forgotten since i read it. i don't have experience with k390 or 15v, so i thought i'd ask the expert.

I highly recommend giving them a try let them patina keep them dry if rust develops just use Bar Keepers Friend.

Stainless steel is actually a rather new invention it used to be in the past all knives had a dark patina if they were being used, all steel cookware had a black seasoning to it from use.

Now that we've become accustomed the prominence of stainless steel knives since around the mid 20th century some people expect to have the knives stay shiny brand new looking all the time throughout the life of the knife and user which is not a realistic expectation with carbon steel.

If carbon steel is getting used it's going to get stained and react and that's just part of life with non stainless carbon steel. Some folks knives in carbon steel stay nice, shiny and stain free but that could be because they are either not being used much or they are not being exposed to things that they can react with which is not a realistic expectation.

It is a sign of use and should be shown with pride.

In the slip joint community they are big fans of carbon steel and patina it seems with more modern folders this is not as common of a sentiment.

[RamZar]

Stainless Steel (initially call rustless steel) has been around for over a century courtesy of an accidental discovery by Harry Brearley in Sheffield, England in 1913 with his high-chromium steel alloy.

[ladybug93]

In the slip joint community they are big fans of carbon steel and patina it seems with more modern folders this is not as common of a sentiment.

i recently acquired a vintage slip joint grafting knife with some patina. i've also stripped and forced patina on a 1095 izula. various other carbon moras and condor fixed blades have varying levels of patina/corrosion from use and abuse as well. i typically don't pay spyderco money for blades i expect to rust, but i love the manix and you've sold me on this steel and k390, so i plan to get it if i'm able and will also pick up a wharncliffe endura or delica in k390. i can live with a nice patine like i've seen on k390 here on the forum, but i don't want an expensive rusty knife, which is why i wanted to know.

thanks for your responses. i'll be reading those linked articles when i get a chance. they're typically a little over my head, but i always learn something.

[Deadboxhero]

Yes

Larrin has an article about it which is neat.

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2018/07/16/ ... or-knives/

I believe we didn't start seeing the really high performance stainless steels and heat treatments in custom knives until the later part of the 20th century though.

Stainless Steel (initially call rustless steel) has been around for over a century courtesy of an accidental discovery by Harry Brearley in Sheffield, England in 1913 with his high-chromium steel alloy.

[Deadboxhero]

Yes there's always trade-offs but I don't think people should live avoid experiencing those trade-offs for themselves that's the best part of this knife stuff is the cost of entry for all of these knives is significantly cheaper than chasing cars and watches.

In my opinion.

In the slip joint community they are big fans of carbon steel and patina it seems with more modern folders this is not as common of a sentiment.

i recently acquired a vintage slip joint grafting knife with some patina. i've also stripped and forced patina on a 1095 izula. various other carbon moras and condor fixed blades have varying levels of patina/corrosion from use and abuse as well. i typically don't pay spyderco money for blades i expect to rust, but i love the manix and you've sold me on this steel and k390, so i plan to get it if i'm able and will also pick up a wharncliffe endura or delica in k390. i can live with a nice patine like i've seen on k390 here on the forum, but i don't want an expensive rusty knife, which is why i wanted to know.

thanks for your responses. i'll be reading those linked articles when i get a chance. they're typically a little over my head, but i always learn something.

[RamZar]

Yes

Larrin has an article about it which is neat.

https://knifesteelnerds.com/2018/07/16/ ... or-knives/

I believe we didn't start seeing the really high performance stainless steels and heat treatments in custom knives until the later part of the 20th century though.

Stainless Steel (initially call rustless steel) has been around for over a century courtesy of an accidental discovery by Harry Brearley in Sheffield, England in 1913 with his high-chromium steel alloy.

Another informative article by Larrin. Wish that book "The History of Stainless Steel" was available in Kindle at a reasonable price.

Harry Brearley reported the non-corrosive properties to several companies that might be interested, but received a negative response: “Nobody was impressed; perhaps the idea of producing on a commercial scale a steel which would not corrode sounded ridiculous.” The rusting of knives provides opportunities for people to buy more knives, after all.