Sharpening forum

[Brunzenstein48]

I don't care if sharpening is separate, but it seems silly that it might be. There are so many ways I could make fun of this idea, but I'll refrain from it.

So you never ever sharpened your knife, its not within your universe, you stay in principle away from a sharp knife nor needed you ever any hint sharpening the very item here in discussion - as you never ever need such a thing as a properly maintained knife - right?
:)

[PWork]

Spyderco makes knives...Spyderco makes sharpeners. Knife users are going to need to sharpen their knives from time to time. I personally don't see the need to separate the two, but if the powers that be see the need, I don't see a real problem with it. I tend to shy away from sharpening threads anyway.

[Surfingringo]

I don't care if sharpening is separate, but it seems silly that it might be. There are so many ways I could make fun of this idea, but I'll refrain from it.

So you never ever sharpened your knife, its not within your universe, you stay in principle away from a sharp knife nor needed you ever any hint sharpening the very item here in discussion - as you never ever need such a thing as a properly maintained knife - right?
:)

I'm pretty sure you misinterpreted his post.

[Skidoosh]

I would suggest a stickie up top with relevant information. There is some really good info that I would like to access but I don't think another forum would help. If we do my suggestion is remove the restricted forum, traffic seems rather light.

[chuckd]

I would LOVE this Sal! Sharpening is such a dedicated and in depth (thanks to folks like Cliff!) activity that it could definitely fill another forum!

Not to mention, a sharpening forum would help spread the love of sharpening that is great to see in knife owners.

[Ankerson]

I speak up because I care and do want positive things to happen. My approach may not be to everyone's liking, but it is what it is.

Not here to get into it with anyone else. That post I had on this thread Bodog... Was it...Then you PM'd me and posted here and kept things along. I was done here. Not here to pick a fight with you or anyone else. Just complain...Call me a cry baby :o

I do understand that the way I go about it sometimes, however noble the cause can backfire. I have kept things quite calm actually and to blame me for everything wrong in this forum right now like you did on your post and PM does little for the actual problem that many are experiencing... From classy guys to your so called trolls, everyone is affected. Tell me, why is Sal considering opening a SHARPENING subforum?

As Manix said "who is everyone"...Ok let me be more literal... NUMEROUS prominent members are having the same problem here. Anyways... Do continue coming after the symptom and not the cause :rolleyes:

I think a lot of us really do care going by the posting in past few days.

Personally I am taking the wait and see what happens stance, basically laying back and watching. :)

I think we have to leave it in Sal's hands in the end as it is his forum in the end and trust him to do what is best.

He did ask for our opinion on a new forum and I gave mine.

[FCM415]

Thanks Jim. A bit of deja vu from last time though right? What you told me several months ago continues to be true. Not that I doubted it. Many more are speaking up this time, same result it seems. What makes you more optimistic this time? Maybe it's better to be optimistic publicly... Oh I get it

[Ankerson]

Thanks Jim. A bit of deja vu from last time though right? What you told me several months ago continues to be true. Not that I doubted it. Many more are speaking up this time, same result it seems. What makes you more optimistic this time? Maybe it's better to be optimistic publicly... Oh I get it

To answer your post. :)

Yeah pretty much, I really do hate being that right about anything that is not positive and I think that's why I over reacted the way I did on some occasions.

It was a prediction of what was going to happen based on what I and some others were seeing happen over a certain period of time.

That was based on what I was personally seeing and what I was being told myself by numerous others, it was based on patterns that kept repeating themselves.

Spoke with someone the other day and they were asking me about stuff, asking me what was going to happen. I laughed and told them what I thought was going to happen and it happened exactly like I told them right to the letter. And I mean dead bang on, very predictable, there was a flood of posts and I mean a flood of them all by the same person. I was laughing as it was happening after that I just decided to take more of a passive stance and lay back seeing the humor in it all. It just isn't worth getting all worked up over it, not really, and it's just not worth the stress either.

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Moving forward...

I would say I am just more in line to trust that things will get better moving forward, thinking in a positive light, I am being hopeful here, more like a glass half full thing. :)

Trying to look at things in a better light and see the humor in them and I am staying out of the forum issue thing completely, that's 100% out of it. :)

[FCM415]

That's right... and even if you remove all of my posts and the very few that you say you had, there's plenty others saying and experiencing the same things. Outcome has become predictable as it happens over and over again.

I will join you in becoming more half glass full for encouragement but deep inside I can't help but think we know better. It's a rockin forum besides this.

[Ankerson]

That's right... and even if you remove all of my posts and the very few that you say you had, there's plenty others saying and experiencing the same things. Outcome has become predictable as it happens over and over again.

I will join you in becoming more half glass full for encouragement but deep inside I can't help but think we know better. It's a rockin forum besides this.

That's right, think positive and trust Sal to do what is best. :) :spyder:

That way at least we can enjoy the forum. :D

I think need to worry about things they can change and not worry about things they can't do anything about, life is much simpler that way.

The biggest thing we can change is ourselves. :spyder:

[Ankerson]

I used to do some Counseling back when I was active in the Church years ago and we used to talk about behavior patterns and other assorted things to that effect. It helped me be a better Manager and help others over the years.

But I do pick up on things very fast when I see them happen as a result.

I was one of those Managers that would usually be there right at the time when someone wasn't doing what they weren't supposed to be doing, I didn't miss much I can say that.

But at the same time time I was also one of them that they could come too if they had problems and really took a interest in them succeeding.

I actually had a guy who used to work for me come up to me and thank me for giving him the attention that I did. He is doing very well now and he told me the main reason was the values that I tried to teach him and hearing me say "What Are You Doing?" at the times he lost focus. It was actually pretty neat that he went out of his way to find me just to tell me those things.

Sorry for rambling, but it just came to mind. :o

[ChrisinHove]

Where would one draw the line between "General" and "Technical"

Sounds like more work and a vehicle for one to dominate the discussion.

I'm all for cleaning up General Discussion, it would seem that what is needed may be customer service orientated sub for users to post problems with Spyderco product rather than having the potential of a derailed discussion cluttering up the General Discussion area for literally everyone to see.

Now that would be an idea that I could be behind 100%. :spyder:

Only the Admins and Mods would really need to reply... Would be nice and tame, easy to Mod. :spyder:

Defiantly a good positive idea I think. :)

Not sure about this. In the open forum, members can say what the Spydero team would probably like to, but cannot, as they have to have the shiniest footprints of all.

[The Mastiff]

Normally I don't think I'd use the sharpening sub forum much if it was there but Cliff has been making some interesting threads on sharpening with magnified images in a few. After over 40 years of knife use I still have been learning.

If it's something that would cost Spyderco significant resources I'd be dubious if it was me making the decision. In my case I'd put my interest in sharpening at 15%- 20% as opposed to Steel & metallurgy at 55%.

Speaking for myself .

Joe

[Brunzenstein48]

In my case I'd put my interest in sharpening at 15%- 20% as opposed to Steel & metallurgy at 55%.

I sign The Mastiff statement and add: As well seasoned Cliff (actually the pope in all around knifes material & handcrafting) covers sharpening, steel & metallurgy I'm all for at least a sub-forum for the sharpening theme. Spyderco started as a small vendor (out of a old camping-bus) of sharpening equipment long before the made their first knife - so sharpening its Spyderco's spine & DNA.

[stalag2]

I would rather like to see a collector and fantasy subforum, the idea of making sharpening threads offtopic or 'less seen' on a knives and sharpening supplies manufacturer's forum goes beyond my comprehension.

[gbelleh]

I can't wait until all this nonsense blows over... But anyway, this forum doesn't have so much traffic that posts fall to page 2 or 3 within a few hours. I don't see the need to separate out topics into their own forums. I like having most everything in one place, without having to hunt through multiple pages and topics. If there was a separate sharpening forum, I'd likely never go there (just like I almost never go to the Byrd forum).

[Brunzenstein48]

I think its more simple:

- this is a Spyderco forum discussing mostly (mostly hard restricted to) Spyderco's products or SC related themes.
- these Spyderco product line consists of knifes and a single Spyderco sharpmaker® sharpening system - together with some sharpening stones and rods (actually the company Spyderco was founded and grew only on selling V sharpeners out of a camping bus - knifes where introduced later)
- therefore sharpening gears are Spyderco's (historical & initial) DNA, as well as knifes are (nowadays) Spyderco's commercial spine

Therefor both themes, knifes as well as sharpening, are of top interest to user of Spyderco's products.
No matter if these folks are users of Spyderco knifes or Spyderco sharpmaker or both - as everybody sharpens a knife in his lifetime - at least 99% do.

- anything else as breast-feeding goldfish, carpet cleaning, taking a trip on the Orient Express to Beijing e.g. may be Off-Topic

Simple ah?..
PS: Why sharpening a Spyderco knife with a Spyderco tool can ever be an Off-Topic as some here introduce, and not top priority, is beyond me.

[tvenuto]

I can't wait until all this nonsense blows over...

Seconded

But anyway, this forum doesn't have so much traffic that posts fall to page 2 or 3 within a few hours. I don't see the need to separate out topics into their own forums. I like having most everything in one place, without having to hunt through multiple pages and topics. If there was a separate sharpening forum, I'd likely never go there (just like I almost never go to the Byrd forum).

Seconded

[rodloos]

I think when a subforum gets too narrowly focused, it doesn't get near as much traffic, and speaking just for myself, I tend to skip over subforums that don't get many new posts - not intentionally so much as just where I focus my available forum-browsing time.

Seems like it could also be tricky to define just exactly what topics belong there -- certainly tutorials on sharpening would go there, but what about the questions such as "I can't sharpen XX knife" - could be technique, heat treat, blade grind, or even type of steel involved. Would it cover just Spyderco sharpening products, or also Wicked Edge, Edge Pro etc?

And I know it gets unwieldy when there are too many "sticky" posts, but perhaps a single sticky that has links to some of the past excellent threads on sharpening would be helpful? Not everyone knows even what terms to search for, but a sticky could make it easy for new people to find the sharpening tips?

[bearfacedkiller]

What's really going on here?