Spyderco Warrior

Domanfp · #41

I guess this will have to suffice as my H1 kitchen knives for a while...

The Deacon · #42

MountainManJim wrote:I'm sorry, but that knife frightens me and it will frighten everyone around me. I love :spyder: for your utilitarian friendly designs. Even Spyderco’s names for their knives tend to lack terms that elicit death and mayhem. Take the Civilian. It could have easily been called the Slayer or some other silly name. I have a hard enough time explaining to family and co-workers that the 2-3 knives that I am carrying are tools and not weapons of mass destruction. The listing of this WARROIR in the Spyderco catalog is not going to help my case. I don’t see myself purchasing this one …. But, I'm it does look like a great design for the warriors in the crowd. We are a diverse group.

Jim

Jim, you are not alone. I cringed when I clicked on the first photo.

SecSpyral · #43

Looks great! Not for me, it looks amazing however.

5.56 · #44

Can someone explain to me what the general purpose of this knife would be?

Be specific on what tasks you do daily that require such a blade as this.

And no generic "to cut stuff" responses. We all have knives we use to cut stuff. What on earth would you need this knife for?

Mr_G · #45

My out loud verbalization involved a different 4-letter word. Giant squid attacking your boat or sabre-tooth tigers running wild in the streets are both excellent uses for this awesome piece of H1! I love it.

Cheers

Dagon · #46

When I clicked the first picture, my initial thought was "mall ninja stuff".

Mr Blonde · #47

5.56 wrote:Can someone explain to me what the general purpose of this knife would be?

Be specific on what tasks you do daily that require such a blade as this.

And no generic "to cut stuff" responses. We all have knives we use to cut stuff. What on earth would you need this knife for?

IIRC this design was made for reverse grip MBC. The pattern is 'old', I believe it was designed in the 80s, versions have been made by Al Mar and REKAT. Those versions were named Warrior or Hobbit Warrior. Different names have been considered, but due to the past of this pattern it's likely that everyone will just call it a 'Warrior' design.

I love that sheath, I'd love to see the Temperance 2 in a sheath like that.

Wouter

CanisMajor · #48

Mr Blonde wrote: I love that sheath, I'd love to see the Temperance 2 in a sheath like that.

Wouter

+1, I would absolutely love that, it would be perfect.

Firebat · #49

I'm no survivalist (heck, I barely go anywhere besides my home or office :D ) but if I were heading out Survivorman or Man vs. Wild style, I'd take THAT thing.

I dunno, I think it's kind of neat in a to each his/her own sort of way. Good on Spyderco for having the brass to go for it. Why not?

As for "what on earth would you need that for?" type responses...

Dagon · #50

As for "what on earth would you need that for?" type responses...

Well, most Spydercos seduce me with their clean, purposeful design. There may be a purpose for this knife (general survival maybe) but I don't see it.

Sequimite · #51

5.56 wrote:Can someone explain to me what the general purpose of this knife would be?

Be specific on what tasks you do daily that require such a blade as this.

And no generic "to cut stuff" responses. We all have knives we use to cut stuff. What on earth would you need this knife for?

I am an amateur concerning knife design, but I think the emphasis on MBC is partly misplaced. The Shayetet 13 team will be experts on killing with a knife, but I doubt that they carry one knife for killing and another one for utility use. The longest part of their missions are concerned with getting to their target and even in an assassination, like the Black September terrorists they took out in Lebanon, a knife is not the weapon of choice. The main purpose of the knife is utilitarian for cutting ropes and wires, through walls, netting - for getting through and past stuff.

I'll answer the question of what this knife can do with my own: what can't it do, other than those cases where a small thin blade is needed?

edit - to answer more completely, I have no compelling reason to use this knife in particular and will buy it as a work of art as much as anything else, but I will use it on, in and around salt water as my first H1 blade, for rope work, for reducing red alder pieces for smoking, for roughing out walking staffs, in the kitchen, for practically everything I currently use a knife for at home, in the woods and on the water.

#52

5.56 wrote:Can someone explain to me what the general purpose of this knife would be?

Be specific on what tasks you do daily that require such a blade as this.

And no generic "to cut stuff" responses. We all have knives we use to cut stuff. What on earth would you need this knife for?

Rob,
This is not a casual EDC knife. This is designed specifically for military purposes. It is an MBC model requiring training to be utilized safely and effectively. The tasks it would be used for are not utility driven, but rather survival.

Kristi

catamount · #53

My understanding is that the design was commissioned by the Israeli Navy's equivalent of the SEALs. I'm sure they'll have good use for it.

Since they're making it, and it's obviously not a black project, :spyder: might as well put it out there for whoever else is interested. Kinda' like the Jumpmaster.

Jay_Ev · #54

Firebat wrote:As for "what on earth would you need that for?" type responses...

I agree. One could ask this about a number of knives. Take the Military for example. Is the Military somehow capable of cutting things that a Delica (or even a Ladybug) can not?

v8r · #55

That thing is SICK! :eek: :D

Halfneck · #56

Dagon wrote:Well, most Spydercos seduce me with their clean, purposeful design. There may be a purpose for this knife (general survival maybe) but I don't see it.

The original design was purely based on the knife as a weapon. As has been stated before, it was designed for the reverse grip style of knife combatives. The back serrated edge and curved design were for trapping/passing moves. The secure grip & S-curve shape help to maintain a grip in a overhead block from a bat/club/rifle/etc. strike. The design is very well thought out for reverse grip knife combatives.

When I went to Riddle of Steel in 1995 I trained using a practice version and was impressed. Attending that year was Greg Walker (Whose book "Battle Blades" features an Al Mar Warrior on the cover) and we talked about the knife a bit. A month or 2 afterward I bought mine.

Sure my chance of using a knife as a weapon is slim to none. But I am a knife-nut and the design appeals to me. Most likely, if I get one, it will sit unused or at best get used on a camping trip. If Combat Blades don't appeal to you, this is not a design for you. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Oh and "The Hobbit from ****" reference applied to a martial blade practitioner named Bob Taylor, thanks for jogging my memory. Here is a link about him and the knife design.

http://www.pvknife.com/rekat_hobbit_warrior_story.html

Firebat · #57

Jay_Ev wrote:I agree. One could ask this about a number of knives. Take the Military for example. Is the Military somehow capable of cutting things that a Delica (or even a Ladybug) can not?

Yep. Also:

Shabaria? Kris? Civilian/Matriarch? Karambit? P'Kal? Ayoob? Yojimbo? Gunting? L'il Temp(s)? Szabofly?

Spyderco has a fairly rich history paying homage to and re-imagining ethnic designs as well as developing some fairly innovative (albeit sometimes 'scary looking') SD and MBC pieces.

So I'm not sure why this is so terribly unusual. Sure, it's no Delica, lol, but they make other stuff too.

Be specific on what tasks you do daily that require such a blade as this.

Why does it have to have anything to do with daily usage? Is anyone really under the assumption that Spyderco went into this believing that the average pocket knife user will buy it? Spyderco makes lots of great everyday options, but they're just that- options. Part of a pretty admirable and broad product line. IMHO.

I'd of course never use this model daily; I'm anxiously awaiting the G-10 Dragonfly for that. Why should that mean I can't appreciate this one too?

The Deacon · #58

Firebat wrote:Yep. Also:

Shabaria? Kris? Civilian/Matriarch? Karambit? P'Kal? Ayoob? Yojimbo? Gunting? L'il Temp(s)? Szabofly?

Spyderco has a fairly rich history paying homage to and re-imagining ethnic designs as well as developing some fairly innovative (albeit sometimes 'scary looking') SD and MBC pieces.

So I'm not sure why this is so terribly unusual. Sure, it's no Delica, lol, but they make other stuff too.

Perhaps because at least some of us perceive this more as an offensive weapon rather than a defensive one, like many of the models you've named, or an amusing toy like the Szabofly.

Perhaps because, at least in the cases of the Shabaria, Kris, and L'il Temp, it is not difficult to imagine them as useful for non-combative purposes.

In my case you can throw in a bit of sadness over yet another distasteful reminder that the era where Spyderco marketed their models intended for use as weapons in a very discreet and responsible manner is now but a chapter in history.

araneae · #59

A knife is a tool. The intended use of this tool is obviously not opening boxes. Will I buy one? No. I do not need to do the job that this tool was made for. Am I offended that it was made? No. Am I surprised that some forumites appear to be offended? Yes.

Its a knife, Spyderco makes great knives. The people who need this tool will be glad to have it and I'm sure it will serve them well.

clovisc · #60

i'm curious about the size of this blade...

looks to me like it would potentially be an excellent outdoor survival knife, with a wide range of possible uses. including... zombie-killin' ... :D :rolleyes: