Keep me outta trouble NYC EDC options?

[Bolster]

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[WORKER#9]

What about a Large carpenters hammer. I bet theres no law against carrying one of these concealed. :p

[flyguy]

What about a Large carpenters hammer. I bet theres no law against carrying one of these concealed. :p

You should TOTALLY try it! Stick it IWB and go on a 5-mile hike. Let us know how it works. :D

[Dr. Snubnose]

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Bolster: I just realized what your avatar is...a "Hot Dog" LOL I thought I was looking at a small man with big shoulders in a tactical vest with a big nose....Glad my eyes are getting better.....Doc :D

[Bolster]

Bolster: I just realized what your avatar is...a "Hot Dog" LOL I thought I was looking at a small man with big shoulders in a tactical vest with a big nose....Glad my eyes are getting better.....Doc :D

LOL! What a hoot! Yes, that's my tactical dachshund! When you can't legally carry a Spydie, be sure to carry your tactical wienerdog instead...

[steeltiger]

I'd like to see that blade hole lock on a spydie, pretty good idea, spydroppable or not.
My vote is for a kopa, ca'nt get a more freindly knife then that, maybe a case mini copperlock, lockback under three inches, but probably droppable.

[Bolster]

My vote is for a kopa, ca'nt get a more freindly knife then that, maybe a case mini copperlock, lockback under three inches, but probably droppable.

I have a Case Mini Copperlock in CV, and I just tested it. With considerable effort and multiple tries, it's handle droppable--barely. IMO, a LEO would have a difficult time making the case that it was an inertia knife. Problem with the Copperlock? Hard to find it in CV steel, which for me is a bare minimum requirement. Most of the Copperlocks are that unpleasant "I'll never rust and I'll never hold an edge" stainless that Case uses.

Earlier in this thread I had suggested Queen's D2 version of a copperlock (a liner lock) but after receiving one, it is so cantankerous to open and close, I deleted my posting. A Fallkniven was suggested, but you get one of those confiscated, and that'll set you back $$$. Still looking for a good NYC knife in the $50 range. I have hopes for the Queen D2 Teardrop...we'll see.

The Kopa is very droppable, with its heavy handle. Even though it's friendly looking I wouldn't recommend it for NYC. Plus, a confiscation would be $$$.

[i.v]

Bolstermanic,
The Falkniven U2 is only around $50. It's a very friendly design, I tired to flick and drop mine open for a long time with no success and the best thing is - the pivot is a torx screw that can be adjusted.

But the more I think sbout it the more I'm drawn to the conclusion that a good multitool may be the best idea...

[Monocrom]

Okay, since I'm down my favorite EDC, I need urban EDC knife.

Any suggestions? Thanks!

Dude, I was in Paragon just this past Friday. They seem to have gotten a couple of new models in stock. Just head down there when you get a chance. Didn't see a Spyderco Paramilitary though. Still, they probably have something you'd like.

[GarageBoy]

Ehh, Paragon's a buncha ..(insert negative word here)

Also, since I'm under 21, they will not show me knives...::rollseyes (yet I can purchase a rifle upstate NY or a 7" kitchen knife)

[WORKER#9]

You should TOTALLY try it! Stick it IWB and go on a 5-mile hike. Let us know how it works. :D

5 Mile Hike??? I carried one an a 20 mile RUCK, IWB! It's like it's not even there!

[steeltiger]

Yup us poor young folk cant do anything, buy knives,scrachoffs, seems ridiculous to me, but you cant buy paint, and if I buy paint I'm dang sure gonna paint something! It's already gotten (youre proof) where we cant hardly go into town without raising suspicion, pitiful.

[Michael Bolton]

What about a Street Beat in a drawpoint sheath from river city as a NYC EDC? I know that fixed blades under 4 inches are legal to carry as long is it's not being flashed about (that recent incident with the NY Transit worker that was attacked an pulled out a 3 inch fb) Or how about a Spydie Yojimbo?

Ps. What's a Spydiedrop?

[Capt. Carl]

I'd put a vote in for a good ole' case stockman. (if you can deal with CV steel that is)

[The Deacon]

What about a Street Beat in a drawpoint sheath from river city as a NYC EDC? I know that fixed blades under 4 inches are legal to carry as long is it's not being flashed about (that recent incident with the NY Transit worker that was attacked an pulled out a 3 inch fb) Or how about a Spydie Yojimbo?

Ps. What's a Spydiedrop?

As with any other knife, the primary issue in NYC is that it be COMPLETELY TOTALLY 100% hidden from view at all times unless it is actually being used to cut something. If all it takes to make some small portion of it visible for a moment is bending over to pick something up, or an inopportune gust of wind, or some other chance event, then you are skating on thin ice. Since NYC does not accept the premise that the average citizen is entitled to carry a weapon, the advertising for both the knife and for that particular sheath might work against you if the Street Beat is spotted and you are arrested.

[Michael Bolton]

As with any other knife, the primary issue in NYC is that it be COMPLETELY TOTALLY 100% hidden from view at all times unless it is actually being used to cut something. If all it takes to make some small portion of it visible for a moment is bending over to pick something up, or an inopportune gust of wind, or some other chance event, then you are skating on thin ice. Since NYC does not accept the premise that the average citizen is entitled to carry a weapon, the advertising for both the knife and for that particular sheath might work against you if the Street Beat is spotted and you are arrested.

Good point. But if in a questionable situation, sliding the spydie into IWB should do the trick, no?

[MAT888]

I don't want to be blasfematic but maybe spyderco should bring out a non flickable folder with the following specifics:

Up to at most 2.5 inch
Flatgrind
More refined notch joint for extra safety or most ambidextrous lock type style.
No spydie hole or the small one like on fixed blades for trademark genuine product recognition. I would suggest;

Simular opening cutout like on the early Jigged Bone Jess Horn or like the Chris Reeve Mnandi style pocketknive.

Preferable Non black handle however colours are somewhat irrelevant with World general knife legislation.

A little fixed blade with front pocket sheath possibilities ;
Think about gunholsters with Wider upper part side wings to keep the sheath in pocket when retreaving the knife. Maybe without wings on sheeth but with best IWB carry possible.


Thinking about simular like Vox little fixed knives like these or maybe colaboration:

http://voxknives.com/prymate.htm

http://voxknives.com/gallery60.htm

http://voxknives.com/gallery43.htm

[anthonyc]

in manhattan (where i work) i always keep my spydies deep in my pockets. Even my caly 3s
but once im in brooklyn or any other the other boroughs, it gets clipped to my pants pocket, mainly because im not on foot as much perhaps.

[MAT888]

GarageBoy, to keep you outta trouble I´d suggest to wait untill you be over your Paramili case. It could be counterproductive, if knifewise something happens to you before.

Afterwards it seems any spyderdropable folder would be no good idea for NYC. I rather would get a small fixed blade like Swick, Spot or Subcom Fixed if they are legal in NYC. You could fix the sheath to the pants or the jacket inside the pocket.

JB

I think this sounds legal wize the way to go in your specific situation.

[The Deacon]

Good point. But if in a questionable situation, sliding the spydie into IWB should do the trick, no?

Michael, I'll admit I have no idea what a River City Drawpoint sheath looks like, or how a knife carried in one rides. That said, any and all IWB sheaths I have ever seen exposed some portion of the knife's handle or pistol's grip above the waistband, so I am assuming that is the case with the Drawpoint. If that assumption is correct, and you are depending on your shirttail to provide concealment then, as I said before, when all it takes to make some small portion of the handle visible for a moment is bending over to pick something up, or an inopportune gust of wind, or some other chance event, you are skating on thin ice. Some folks enjoy the rush of doing that, some do not.