Martial Arts Experiences Discussion Thread
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A Criminal Look at the Knifer's M.O.
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"Never Do This In A Fight"
Never underestimate anyone.
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Never underestimate anyone.
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Naperville wrote: ↑Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:37 amCane and Knife for the Street
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Thanks for posting.
I have seen a couple videos where old men with walking sticks (not canes) K.O.'d much younger attackers with their sticks. One even picked the pocket of his unconscious young attacker before leaving the scene. The old men obviously had that "dog" in them, and likely always had. Neither one of those old men looked like they'd had any particular martial arts training; just street smarts, probable real-life experience, a knowledge of how to strike for maximum effect, and the WILLINGNESS to be violent if needed, even at their advanced ages. Which probably counts for more on the street than being a martial arts master with a prestigious lineage, but no experience.
The vast majority of what's shown in videos on YouTube about cane and walking stick self-defense will not work against a real, determined attacker. I've always known that. Big, one-handed swings and twirling strikes will not deter someone who is adrenalized, drugged up, or insane. Such strikes also make it easy for the stick to be grabbed and taken away.
I've said many times I carry a walking stick when out walking, even though I don't need it to walk. Back in October, I took a trip to Boston and Cape Cod. That got me thinking, because I only took carry-ons (a backpack with my laptop, and a small bag on wheels). I did not take my walking stick, because it would not have fit into the overhead compartment, which it would have to, to be allowed on the plane. A standard cane would have. I have been considering getting one of the specially textured hickory Cane Masters canes, with the palm rest added on. However, I would NOT use the fighting methods that the Cane Masters owner demonstrates in his videos, but would use my own methods, adapted to the cane.
I do know how to use a cane, I just prefer a walking stick, because IMO it's more versatile, more potentially damaging, has more range (while still being maneuverable in close), and is much harder to disarm than a cane, if you know what you're doing.
The one issue I have with the article is it neglects to mention the element of surprise. If you're an older person who carries a cane or walking stick for defense, you're not going to be getting into "fights." You're not going to be squaring off and dueling with someone, like in a martial arts match. You should not be striking to try to deter someone with pain; you are using simple, direct strikes, preferably using the stick or cane with BOTH HANDS, targeted to cause as much biomechanical damage as possible. For example, one of my major targets for a quick straight thrust is the throat, which is unexpected; and the throat and the area just below it are less mobile than the head or the hands. Single-handed stick strikes have FAR LESS leverage and destructive effect than double-handed operation and direct strikes; straight or angular (not using circular swings). Also, try using those wide, circular swings under stress, in close quarters, and/or in narrow, confined spaces.
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The Walk That Screams "Rob Me!" (According to Inmates)
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Couple Attacked in New York / Street Fight Analysis
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Burton Richardson is a student of many, primarily his roots are Guro Dan Inosanto and The Dog Brothers.James Y wrote: ↑Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:09 amNaperville wrote: ↑Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:37 amCane and Knife for the Street
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Thanks for posting.
I have seen a couple videos where old men with walking sticks (not canes) K.O.'d much younger attackers with their sticks. One even picked the pocket of his unconscious young attacker before leaving the scene. The old men obviously had that "dog" in them, and likely always had. Neither one of those old men looked like they'd had any particular martial arts training; just street smarts, probable real-life experience, a knowledge of how to strike for maximum effect, and the WILLINGNESS to be violent if needed, even at their advanced ages. Which probably counts for more on the street than being a martial arts master with a prestigious lineage, but no experience.
The vast majority of what's shown in videos on YouTube about cane and walking stick self-defense will not work against a real, determined attacker. I've always known that. Big, one-handed swings and twirling strikes will not deter someone who is adrenalized, drugged up, or insane. Such strikes also make it easy for the stick to be grabbed and taken away.
I've said many times I carry a walking stick when out walking, even though I don't need it to walk. Back in October, I took a trip to Boston and Cape Cod. That got me thinking, because I only took carry-ons (a backpack with my laptop, and a small bag on wheels). I did not take my walking stick, because it would not have fit into the overhead compartment, which it would have to, to be allowed on the plane. A standard cane would have. I have been considering getting one of the specially textured hickory Cane Masters canes, with the palm rest added on. However, I would NOT use the fighting methods that the Cane Masters owner demonstrates in his videos, but would use my own methods, adapted to the cane.
I do know how to use a cane, I just prefer a walking stick, because IMO it's more versatile, more potentially damaging, has more range (while still being maneuverable in close), and is much harder to disarm than a cane, if you know what you're doing.
The one issue I have with the article is it neglects to mention the element of surprise. If you're an older person who carries a cane or walking stick for defense, you're not going to be getting into "fights." You're not going to be squaring off and dueling with someone, like in a martial arts match. You should not be striking to try to deter someone with pain; you are using simple, direct strikes, preferably using the stick or cane with BOTH HANDS, targeted to cause as much biomechanical damage as possible. For example, one of my major targets for a quick straight thrust is the throat, which is unexpected; and the throat and the area just below it are less mobile than the head or the hands. Single-handed stick strikes have FAR LESS leverage and destructive effect than double-handed operation and direct strikes; straight or angular (not using circular swings). Also, try using those wide, circular swings under stress, in close quarters, and/or in narrow, confined spaces.
Jim
I ordered the advanced siniwali videos, and they are hosted on Vimeo, but however it is setup, they are not downloadable so there goes $100+. I asked, and NOPE. They should have given out passwords on Vimeo for those making purchases so that they could be downloaded. There are several browser extensions that download Vimeo videos.
I have purchased many hundreds of dollars worth of online or streamed videos and I always try to download them. I go back to them, and watch everything over time to pick something up. Schools close, schools fragment, martial artists pass away, and new instructors / management take over and they refuse to give access to continued purchases, which result in training dead ends.
It's like an embargo on information. Only the well connected or people with direct access to the schools get access.
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YEP! I've seen that attack in video before many moons ago. The goof had his gf out at 4am in NYC. They paid the toll.
This is the crime in less than half of Chicago:
https://cwbchicago.com/
I moved out of Chicago almost a decade ago. I felt that it was too dangerous. Have to have your head on a swivel 24x7x365, day or night. I had that arrest for self defense, and I was getting older and I knew that I had to move or I'd reach an age where I'd be fearing for my life if I left the apartment. I wonder how many older folks live in fear in large cities and refuse to go out?
Large cities in the USA aren't really safe at any hour. Carjackings and armed robberies happen at all hours of the day.
I have training from some very good instructors. So what. A lone nutcase only has to get lucky once. Abdominal aortic trunks are 2.0cm to 2.4cm in diameter, almost an inch, right behind the soft tissue of the abdomen.
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Naperville wrote: ↑Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:44 pmBurton Richardson is a student of many, primarily his roots are Guro Dan Inosanto and The Dog Brothers.James Y wrote: ↑Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:09 amNaperville wrote: ↑Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:37 amCane and Knife for the Street
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Thanks for posting.
I have seen a couple videos where old men with walking sticks (not canes) K.O.'d much younger attackers with their sticks. One even picked the pocket of his unconscious young attacker before leaving the scene. The old men obviously had that "dog" in them, and likely always had. Neither one of those old men looked like they'd had any particular martial arts training; just street smarts, probable real-life experience, a knowledge of how to strike for maximum effect, and the WILLINGNESS to be violent if needed, even at their advanced ages. Which probably counts for more on the street than being a martial arts master with a prestigious lineage, but no experience.
The vast majority of what's shown in videos on YouTube about cane and walking stick self-defense will not work against a real, determined attacker. I've always known that. Big, one-handed swings and twirling strikes will not deter someone who is adrenalized, drugged up, or insane. Such strikes also make it easy for the stick to be grabbed and taken away.
I've said many times I carry a walking stick when out walking, even though I don't need it to walk. Back in October, I took a trip to Boston and Cape Cod. That got me thinking, because I only took carry-ons (a backpack with my laptop, and a small bag on wheels). I did not take my walking stick, because it would not have fit into the overhead compartment, which it would have to, to be allowed on the plane. A standard cane would have. I have been considering getting one of the specially textured hickory Cane Masters canes, with the palm rest added on. However, I would NOT use the fighting methods that the Cane Masters owner demonstrates in his videos, but would use my own methods, adapted to the cane.
I do know how to use a cane, I just prefer a walking stick, because IMO it's more versatile, more potentially damaging, has more range (while still being maneuverable in close), and is much harder to disarm than a cane, if you know what you're doing.
The one issue I have with the article is it neglects to mention the element of surprise. If you're an older person who carries a cane or walking stick for defense, you're not going to be getting into "fights." You're not going to be squaring off and dueling with someone, like in a martial arts match. You should not be striking to try to deter someone with pain; you are using simple, direct strikes, preferably using the stick or cane with BOTH HANDS, targeted to cause as much biomechanical damage as possible. For example, one of my major targets for a quick straight thrust is the throat, which is unexpected; and the throat and the area just below it are less mobile than the head or the hands. Single-handed stick strikes have FAR LESS leverage and destructive effect than double-handed operation and direct strikes; straight or angular (not using circular swings). Also, try using those wide, circular swings under stress, in close quarters, and/or in narrow, confined spaces.
Jim
I ordered the advanced siniwali videos, and they are hosted on Vimeo, but however it is setup, they are not downloadable so there goes $100+. I asked, and NOPE. They should have given out passwords on Vimeo for those making purchases so that they could be downloaded. There are several browser extensions that download Vimeo videos.
I have purchased many hundreds of dollars worth of online or streamed videos and I always try to download them. I go back to them, and watch everything over time to pick something up. Schools close, schools fragment, martial artists pass away, and new instructors / management take over and they refuse to give access to continued purchases, which result in training dead ends.
It's like an embargo on information. Only the well connected or people with direct access to the schools get access.
Limiting or denying access, or showing some type of favoritism within a system is actually a common theme in many martial arts. Many people think of the Kung Fu teacher who has his 'common' students, who are taught the superficial aspects; and also has his 'closed-door' disciples, who are taught the finer points, and the deeper aspects that make a martial art work. In traditional martial arts, I was the equivalent of a closed-door disciple in Tanglang Quan (Northern Mantis Boxing) and Choy Lee Fut.
My Kenpo teacher, under whom I was a black belt, pretty much taught everything out in the open, and the perceptive people got it, and the less smart did not.
But the hidden stuff is not limited to Chinese martial arts. The same was true in some of the older Japanese systems (not Karate). And I'm sure that is common in virtually all martial arts, at least the more combat-oriented traditional arts.
A friend of mine who trained for awhile at a BJJ school run by a Brazilian instructor said that that instructor only taught his Brazilian students the finer points, and kind of didn't care as much about the non-Brazilian students. And that school was right here in SoCal. It wasn't the same BJJ academy I trained at. My friend trained at that school long enough to get his blue belt, then quit. He said beyond that, he didn't need to learn anything else; he already had all the practical stuff that he needed out of it. And he hadn't liked that instructor as a person.
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Japanese MMA Fighter Travels to Taiwan to Learn Bagua (Baguazhang)
I don't know if this Japanese MMA fighter is in the UFC or not. I couldn't decipher his name from the Kanji.
The Bagua teacher, Luo Dexiu, has an excellent reputation for producing students who can actually fight with their styles. Master Luo teaches Xingyi, Bagua, and Taiji (Tai Chi). I believe that the very good Canadian Bagua man that I sparred in Taiwan back in the early '90s was one of Master Luo's students.
It might surprise some people that back in the '80s and early '90s, when I was in Taiwan, there were many martial artists from Japan who went to Taiwan to train in various Chinese martial arts.
There is English spoken between Master Luo and the Japanese fighter.
Jim
I don't know if this Japanese MMA fighter is in the UFC or not. I couldn't decipher his name from the Kanji.
The Bagua teacher, Luo Dexiu, has an excellent reputation for producing students who can actually fight with their styles. Master Luo teaches Xingyi, Bagua, and Taiji (Tai Chi). I believe that the very good Canadian Bagua man that I sparred in Taiwan back in the early '90s was one of Master Luo's students.
It might surprise some people that back in the '80s and early '90s, when I was in Taiwan, there were many martial artists from Japan who went to Taiwan to train in various Chinese martial arts.
There is English spoken between Master Luo and the Japanese fighter.
Jim
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Arrogance and Ignorance in the Martial Arts World
Warning: Overly-long, rambling post.
TBH, I'm not even sure whether this is addressing actual martial artists, or merely MMA nutriders, who scour YouTube for any and all videos they can find, showing a martial artist or combatives teacher demonstrating without actually sport fighting in a cage. Whether specifically demonstrating for the camera, or being filmed demonstrating certain aspects while teaching students some fine points. He could either be demonstrating in slow motion for clarity, or at full speed on a student who obviously isn't fighting back, because IT'S A DEMONSTRATION.
These people, whether martial artists themselves, sport practitioners (or, most likely, couch potatoes who imagine themselves to be fighters because they watch a lot of UFC), who doggedly search YouTube for such videos, then feel compelled to post the SAME unoriginal comments below them:
*"Another Bullshido master!"
*"That works great if your opponent just stands there and doesn't fight back!"
*"Let's see him go into the UFC and see how great he does against (name the nutrider's favorite fighter here)."
Those are only 3 examples. That third type of comment, which comes up a lot, is a clear indication that the commenter doesn't actually train in anything, because they always suggest the person in the video go into the UFC and fight a top name professional fighter, to prove their legitimacy. When they themselves could never step into the ring with any top UFC fighter, or any amateur fighter either.
Granted, the martial arts are chock full of narcissistic BS artists. There are many of those types of videos, which are justifiably deserving of criticism. I admit that wholeheartedly.
But I have also seen some videos posted on YouTube where I know for a fact that the person being featured in the video is absolutely legit, but is simply unknown to the vast majority of Millennials and Gen Z's. So they assume that the person in the video is a fraud. When people make assumptions without any knowledge of who or what they are assuming about, it makes them (the assumers) look stupid.
It's rapidly becoming where, unless a martial arts-related video is showing an actual competitive sport fight, then it's not legit. So nobody can think or do anything differently without being made fun of.
Even a Kazakh boxing coach, who demonstrated amazing body torque and penetration while punching a heavy bag bare-fisted, wasn't safe from snarky comments. He has received stupid criticisms, such as:
* "He can punch the bag like that because it doesn't hit back "
* That bag looks heavy, but it's not."
* "His punches are too wide. Easy to block or dodge."
Blah blah blah, etc , etc. If all of these snarky commenters were actually fighters themselves, then elite fighters would comprise about 30% of the world's population, when the real number is only a miniscule percentage. Most of them would also be prime candidates for developing CTE, which MANY fighters and former fighters are finding out about.
I remember back in the early 2000s, when many posted online that brain damage does not, and will never happen in MMA because, unlike boxing, MMA incorporates grappling. At that time the effects wouldn't have become obvious yet, due to the sport still being so new at the time. Now that MMA has become firmly established for decades, it's becoming very obvious in a lot of fighters. Even soccer players and some of the "fake" pro wrestlers end up with symptoms of CTE. It's not just a problem affecting boxers and football players.
I have trained with actual fighters in my younger years, as well as having known several competitive athletes in Judo, BJJ, Muay Thai, amateur wrestling, and MMA, many of whom were clients during my time as a massage therapist. I also had amateur sport fighting experience, some of which was full-contact (pre-MMA), so I am not against sport fighting. In fact, all of the legit sport fighters I've ever met tended to be confident and at the same time, humble. More humble than your typical "traditional" martial artists. They were too busy doing what they do to be looking up what others are doing, for the purpose of making fun of them.
If I see a video, I might critique certain points (for example, if someone says something like "open-handed strikes are useless"), but I will never make fun of them or put them down.
I WILL criticize someone or something if it is outright, obvious fraud that is purposely misleading and dangerous to their students.
That is about as far as I will go, and not leaving passive-aggressive comments about other people who are legitimately doing their best to put themselves out there, which isn't as easy to do as most people think it is.
Steven Seagal might be one exception I'll allow myself; NOT because I think he's a Bullshido artist, but because of his behavior. I have heard from people in the know, especially one particular no-nonsense martial artist I used to talk with who actually got to meet and train with Seagal for a bit many years ago, who stated that Seagal had some legit skills.
I have an idea. Why aren't all of the armchair warriors out there fighting in the UFC themselves? As if any clown can just go to the UFC offices, offer to prove themselves, be given a contract, and be immediately added to the roster. The armchair critics could really show the world how it's done; they seem to know more about training and fighting than everybody else does.
Jim
Warning: Overly-long, rambling post.
TBH, I'm not even sure whether this is addressing actual martial artists, or merely MMA nutriders, who scour YouTube for any and all videos they can find, showing a martial artist or combatives teacher demonstrating without actually sport fighting in a cage. Whether specifically demonstrating for the camera, or being filmed demonstrating certain aspects while teaching students some fine points. He could either be demonstrating in slow motion for clarity, or at full speed on a student who obviously isn't fighting back, because IT'S A DEMONSTRATION.
These people, whether martial artists themselves, sport practitioners (or, most likely, couch potatoes who imagine themselves to be fighters because they watch a lot of UFC), who doggedly search YouTube for such videos, then feel compelled to post the SAME unoriginal comments below them:
*"Another Bullshido master!"
*"That works great if your opponent just stands there and doesn't fight back!"
*"Let's see him go into the UFC and see how great he does against (name the nutrider's favorite fighter here)."
Those are only 3 examples. That third type of comment, which comes up a lot, is a clear indication that the commenter doesn't actually train in anything, because they always suggest the person in the video go into the UFC and fight a top name professional fighter, to prove their legitimacy. When they themselves could never step into the ring with any top UFC fighter, or any amateur fighter either.
Granted, the martial arts are chock full of narcissistic BS artists. There are many of those types of videos, which are justifiably deserving of criticism. I admit that wholeheartedly.
But I have also seen some videos posted on YouTube where I know for a fact that the person being featured in the video is absolutely legit, but is simply unknown to the vast majority of Millennials and Gen Z's. So they assume that the person in the video is a fraud. When people make assumptions without any knowledge of who or what they are assuming about, it makes them (the assumers) look stupid.
It's rapidly becoming where, unless a martial arts-related video is showing an actual competitive sport fight, then it's not legit. So nobody can think or do anything differently without being made fun of.
Even a Kazakh boxing coach, who demonstrated amazing body torque and penetration while punching a heavy bag bare-fisted, wasn't safe from snarky comments. He has received stupid criticisms, such as:
* "He can punch the bag like that because it doesn't hit back "
* That bag looks heavy, but it's not."
* "His punches are too wide. Easy to block or dodge."
Blah blah blah, etc , etc. If all of these snarky commenters were actually fighters themselves, then elite fighters would comprise about 30% of the world's population, when the real number is only a miniscule percentage. Most of them would also be prime candidates for developing CTE, which MANY fighters and former fighters are finding out about.
I remember back in the early 2000s, when many posted online that brain damage does not, and will never happen in MMA because, unlike boxing, MMA incorporates grappling. At that time the effects wouldn't have become obvious yet, due to the sport still being so new at the time. Now that MMA has become firmly established for decades, it's becoming very obvious in a lot of fighters. Even soccer players and some of the "fake" pro wrestlers end up with symptoms of CTE. It's not just a problem affecting boxers and football players.
I have trained with actual fighters in my younger years, as well as having known several competitive athletes in Judo, BJJ, Muay Thai, amateur wrestling, and MMA, many of whom were clients during my time as a massage therapist. I also had amateur sport fighting experience, some of which was full-contact (pre-MMA), so I am not against sport fighting. In fact, all of the legit sport fighters I've ever met tended to be confident and at the same time, humble. More humble than your typical "traditional" martial artists. They were too busy doing what they do to be looking up what others are doing, for the purpose of making fun of them.
If I see a video, I might critique certain points (for example, if someone says something like "open-handed strikes are useless"), but I will never make fun of them or put them down.
I WILL criticize someone or something if it is outright, obvious fraud that is purposely misleading and dangerous to their students.
That is about as far as I will go, and not leaving passive-aggressive comments about other people who are legitimately doing their best to put themselves out there, which isn't as easy to do as most people think it is.
Steven Seagal might be one exception I'll allow myself; NOT because I think he's a Bullshido artist, but because of his behavior. I have heard from people in the know, especially one particular no-nonsense martial artist I used to talk with who actually got to meet and train with Seagal for a bit many years ago, who stated that Seagal had some legit skills.
I have an idea. Why aren't all of the armchair warriors out there fighting in the UFC themselves? As if any clown can just go to the UFC offices, offer to prove themselves, be given a contract, and be immediately added to the roster. The armchair critics could really show the world how it's done; they seem to know more about training and fighting than everybody else does.
Jim
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Bruce Lee: Behind The Scenes
The man standing at the microphone and holding the paper near the end of this short video was Jhoon Rhee, known as "The Father of American Tae Kwon Do." He introduced Tae Kwon Do to the US in the 1950s. Jhoon Rhee lived and taught in the Virginia / Washington DC area. A few years later, Bruce Lee helped Jhoon Rhee to get the starring role in a Hong Kong movie specifically written for him, titled "When Tae Kwon Do Strikes" (1973).
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The man standing at the microphone and holding the paper near the end of this short video was Jhoon Rhee, known as "The Father of American Tae Kwon Do." He introduced Tae Kwon Do to the US in the 1950s. Jhoon Rhee lived and taught in the Virginia / Washington DC area. A few years later, Bruce Lee helped Jhoon Rhee to get the starring role in a Hong Kong movie specifically written for him, titled "When Tae Kwon Do Strikes" (1973).
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Ex-Convict Makes Weapons Out of Bread
Not MA-related, but very interesting.
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Not MA-related, but very interesting.
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Jim, here is an example of the sword catching move I mentioned. This is a clip from "Spies Like Us" from the 1980s, with Dan Akroyd and Chevy Chase:
Scroll ahead and see where their commander shows them how he fights the ninjas, and he catches one of the Katana blades by the edge with gloved hands.
Scroll ahead and see where their commander shows them how he fights the ninjas, and he catches one of the Katana blades by the edge with gloved hands.
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"Don't Smother"
Actually, I thought the smaller kid's boxing punches weren't bad at all. He definitely had at least some boxing experience. But it appears that the other kid was a wrestler, or had some type of grappling experience.
Reading some of the comments, most of the commenters seem unaware that historically, whenever pure boxers and pure wrestlers were matched up, more often than not, the wrestlers usually came out on top. Unless the boxer was able to score a clean stoppage or K.O. very early. And pound for pound, wrestlers are usually much stronger than boxers, because of the nature of grappling; especially methods like Judo, Shuai Jiao, Sambo, and Western wrestling, such as Greco-Roman, Freestyle, and Catch wrestling, all of which develop freakish strength. So even if the smaller kid had "done everything right" and kept more distance with his footwork and maneuvered around, he most likely still would've lost that fight.
Jim
Actually, I thought the smaller kid's boxing punches weren't bad at all. He definitely had at least some boxing experience. But it appears that the other kid was a wrestler, or had some type of grappling experience.
Reading some of the comments, most of the commenters seem unaware that historically, whenever pure boxers and pure wrestlers were matched up, more often than not, the wrestlers usually came out on top. Unless the boxer was able to score a clean stoppage or K.O. very early. And pound for pound, wrestlers are usually much stronger than boxers, because of the nature of grappling; especially methods like Judo, Shuai Jiao, Sambo, and Western wrestling, such as Greco-Roman, Freestyle, and Catch wrestling, all of which develop freakish strength. So even if the smaller kid had "done everything right" and kept more distance with his footwork and maneuvered around, he most likely still would've lost that fight.
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I am doing everything that I can to get in peak physical condition. Not for a 65yr old man, but peak physical condition for a 30yr old man.
I am at around 205lbs and going down to 175lbs. I have been saying it but right now I am doing it.
Currently, I work in an un-airconditioned warehouse(think 80F to 95F every day for 10hrs a day) and move boxes that weigh 5lbs to 45lbs for 10 hrs, 4 days a week. It is one heck of a workout, and you MOVE fast against a computing system that measures output on everything. It's a glorified bean counter! I am going to start working 5 days, 50 hours per week. Right now I am keeping up with most of the 20 to 30 yr olds, and on some days, I whip all of their tails.
I take 35+ supplements every day and I think that I may start taking rapamycin.
Today I signed up and took an intro pilates class. Pilates at the entry level is not that hard at all, and I am not bragging about being able to handle the 50min intro class. My goal is to move up and be in a 50min advanced class, 3 times per week along with my work schedule. Pilates works on core development, flexibility, stretching, bending, and all sorts of muscle development, which should be very good for martial arts. Don't think big bulky muscles, it is not weight lifting. It works on your core, and all areas of muscle development and toning. It is all around fitness, it hits all areas. A muscle bound martial artist is not my target, but a very flexible and toned physique is so that I can excel at martial arts, and increase my healthspan and lifespan.
I have already contacted some folks who I have trained with, and they said to come on back and train full time again. This is a difficult situation because I'd like to keep what I have now and if I leave where I am, I may lose everything. I am leaning to just staying put, but in time I will have to make a choice. I am risk averse.
Illinois is not that good for tech support jobs compared to Silicon Valley, but Silicon Valley has it's own issues. Everything is two to three times as expensive, but that is where I would head back to. Illinois is also horrible for martial arts compared to California, but if I want to learn escrima/arnis I have to head back to Stockton, CA for training.

I am at around 205lbs and going down to 175lbs. I have been saying it but right now I am doing it.

Currently, I work in an un-airconditioned warehouse(think 80F to 95F every day for 10hrs a day) and move boxes that weigh 5lbs to 45lbs for 10 hrs, 4 days a week. It is one heck of a workout, and you MOVE fast against a computing system that measures output on everything. It's a glorified bean counter! I am going to start working 5 days, 50 hours per week. Right now I am keeping up with most of the 20 to 30 yr olds, and on some days, I whip all of their tails.
I take 35+ supplements every day and I think that I may start taking rapamycin.
Today I signed up and took an intro pilates class. Pilates at the entry level is not that hard at all, and I am not bragging about being able to handle the 50min intro class. My goal is to move up and be in a 50min advanced class, 3 times per week along with my work schedule. Pilates works on core development, flexibility, stretching, bending, and all sorts of muscle development, which should be very good for martial arts. Don't think big bulky muscles, it is not weight lifting. It works on your core, and all areas of muscle development and toning. It is all around fitness, it hits all areas. A muscle bound martial artist is not my target, but a very flexible and toned physique is so that I can excel at martial arts, and increase my healthspan and lifespan.
I have already contacted some folks who I have trained with, and they said to come on back and train full time again. This is a difficult situation because I'd like to keep what I have now and if I leave where I am, I may lose everything. I am leaning to just staying put, but in time I will have to make a choice. I am risk averse.
Illinois is not that good for tech support jobs compared to Silicon Valley, but Silicon Valley has it's own issues. Everything is two to three times as expensive, but that is where I would head back to. Illinois is also horrible for martial arts compared to California, but if I want to learn escrima/arnis I have to head back to Stockton, CA for training.

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Re: Martial Arts Experiences Discussion Thread
Naperville wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:59 pmI am doing everything that I can to get in peak physical condition. Not for a 65yr old man, but peak physical condition for a 30yr old man.
I am at around 205lbs and going down to 175lbs. I have been saying it but right now I am doing it.![]()
Currently, I work in an un-airconditioned warehouse(think 80F to 95F every day for 10hrs a day) and move boxes that weigh 5lbs to 45lbs for 10 hrs, 4 days a week. It is one heck of a workout, and you MOVE fast against a computing system that measures output on everything. It's a glorified bean counter! I am going to start working 5 days, 50 hours per week. Right now I am keeping up with most of the 20 to 30 yr olds, and on some days, I whip all of their tails.
I take 35+ supplements every day and I think that I may start taking rapamycin.
Today I signed up and took an intro pilates class. Pilates at the entry level is not that hard at all, and I am not bragging about being able to handle the 50min intro class. My goal is to move up and be in a 50min advanced class, 3 times per week along with my work schedule. Pilates works on core development, flexibility, stretching, bending, and all sorts of muscle development, which should be very good for martial arts. Don't think big bulky muscles, it is not weight lifting. It works on your core, and all areas of muscle development and toning. It is all around fitness, it hits all areas. A muscle bound martial artist is not my target, but a very flexible and toned physique is so that I can excel at martial arts, and increase my healthspan and lifespan.
I have already contacted some folks who I have trained with, and they said to come on back and train full time again. This is a difficult situation because I'd like to keep what I have now and if I leave where I am, I may lose everything. I am leaning to just staying put, but in time I will have to make a choice. I am risk averse.
Illinois is not that good for tech support jobs compared to Silicon Valley, but Silicon Valley has it's own issues. Everything is two to three times as expensive, but that is where I would head back to. Illinois is also horrible for martial arts compared to California, but if I want to learn escrima/arnis I have to head back to Stockton, CA for training.
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Instead of moving and losing everything you have, why not just take periodic trips to train there instead?
Jim
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Re: Martial Arts Experiences Discussion Thread
Thank you for reminding me. I don't know why I did not think of that. I'll have to ask. This may be a possibility.James Y wrote: ↑Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:01 amNaperville wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:59 pmI am doing everything that I can to get in peak physical condition. Not for a 65yr old man, but peak physical condition for a 30yr old man.
I am at around 205lbs and going down to 175lbs. I have been saying it but right now I am doing it.![]()
Currently, I work in an un-airconditioned warehouse(think 80F to 95F every day for 10hrs a day) and move boxes that weigh 5lbs to 45lbs for 10 hrs, 4 days a week. It is one heck of a workout, and you MOVE fast against a computing system that measures output on everything. It's a glorified bean counter! I am going to start working 5 days, 50 hours per week. Right now I am keeping up with most of the 20 to 30 yr olds, and on some days, I whip all of their tails.
I take 35+ supplements every day and I think that I may start taking rapamycin.
Today I signed up and took an intro pilates class. Pilates at the entry level is not that hard at all, and I am not bragging about being able to handle the 50min intro class. My goal is to move up and be in a 50min advanced class, 3 times per week along with my work schedule. Pilates works on core development, flexibility, stretching, bending, and all sorts of muscle development, which should be very good for martial arts. Don't think big bulky muscles, it is not weight lifting. It works on your core, and all areas of muscle development and toning. It is all around fitness, it hits all areas. A muscle bound martial artist is not my target, but a very flexible and toned physique is so that I can excel at martial arts, and increase my healthspan and lifespan.
I have already contacted some folks who I have trained with, and they said to come on back and train full time again. This is a difficult situation because I'd like to keep what I have now and if I leave where I am, I may lose everything. I am leaning to just staying put, but in time I will have to make a choice. I am risk averse.
Illinois is not that good for tech support jobs compared to Silicon Valley, but Silicon Valley has it's own issues. Everything is two to three times as expensive, but that is where I would head back to. Illinois is also horrible for martial arts compared to California, but if I want to learn escrima/arnis I have to head back to Stockton, CA for training.
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Instead of moving and losing everything you have, why not just take periodic trips to train there instead?
Jim
When I was in Stockton around 2003 and training with Bahala Na, they had week-long high pressure seminars that ran from sun-up to sun-down and martial artists came in from Europe and across the USA to train. They then tested, and rose through the ranks to graduate.
After I came home, Bahala Na split up. I am not tied to either group.
I need to re-practice the first two sets of skills so that I do not have to retest on them. Then I need to see which group might offer training to remote practitioners.
Thanks James!
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Re: Martial Arts Experiences Discussion Thread
A Republican Era Sword - The L.K. Chen Snow Peak Jian
"Jian" means sword in Mandarin; the Cantonese pronunciation is "Gim". This type of sword is a straight, double-edged sword.
There is a distinction between the straight, double-edged Jian, and the single-edged Dan Dao (AKA Darn Dao) broadsword. "Dao" literally means "knife." Darn Dao means "single knife," and "Shuang Dao" means double knives, one wielded in each hand. The broadsword isn't technically considered a 'sword' in Chinese martial arts.
Note: "Republican" here refers to the Republic of China (1912 - 1949), which was between the end of the Qing (Ching) Dynasty and the beginning of the People's Republic of China.
My first Mantis-style teacher in Taiwan, Teacher Gao, had an old, heavy jian on his weapons rack, which I practiced with many times. It was very heavy, solidly-built, and the edges and slightly rounded tip were sharp. It was very different from any training sword I've ever seen or handled. You had to be mindful with it. Teacher Gao's own teacher had killed a man with a sword in a challenge duel in China, sometime during China's Republican era. I sometimes wondered if that was the same sword that his teacher had used.
My favorite sword form that I learned in Taiwan was called "Kun Wu Jian." It's from Changquan (Northern Long Fist) style, which I learned from my second Mantis-style teacher. If I still practiced that form and the training drills and applications, I might have been interested in acquiring one of these swords someday, if they don't break the bank.
Jim
"Jian" means sword in Mandarin; the Cantonese pronunciation is "Gim". This type of sword is a straight, double-edged sword.
There is a distinction between the straight, double-edged Jian, and the single-edged Dan Dao (AKA Darn Dao) broadsword. "Dao" literally means "knife." Darn Dao means "single knife," and "Shuang Dao" means double knives, one wielded in each hand. The broadsword isn't technically considered a 'sword' in Chinese martial arts.
Note: "Republican" here refers to the Republic of China (1912 - 1949), which was between the end of the Qing (Ching) Dynasty and the beginning of the People's Republic of China.
My first Mantis-style teacher in Taiwan, Teacher Gao, had an old, heavy jian on his weapons rack, which I practiced with many times. It was very heavy, solidly-built, and the edges and slightly rounded tip were sharp. It was very different from any training sword I've ever seen or handled. You had to be mindful with it. Teacher Gao's own teacher had killed a man with a sword in a challenge duel in China, sometime during China's Republican era. I sometimes wondered if that was the same sword that his teacher had used.
My favorite sword form that I learned in Taiwan was called "Kun Wu Jian." It's from Changquan (Northern Long Fist) style, which I learned from my second Mantis-style teacher. If I still practiced that form and the training drills and applications, I might have been interested in acquiring one of these swords someday, if they don't break the bank.
Jim
Re: Martial Arts Experiences Discussion Thread
"Get Your Technique Off and Get Out"
What he is saying here applies to ANY type of martial art, not just Filipino styles, when talking about real-life self-defense.
Note: There are self-promotions from 4:48 - 6:09, and again at 6:59 - 7:16, but the subject continues past those.
Jim
What he is saying here applies to ANY type of martial art, not just Filipino styles, when talking about real-life self-defense.
Note: There are self-promotions from 4:48 - 6:09, and again at 6:59 - 7:16, but the subject continues past those.
Jim