Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2025 Report

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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2025 Report

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The Charisma is love on first side :smiling-heart-eyes , its a beauty. I cant wait to put it in the collection.
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elena86 wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:02 pm
Thank you Wouter for your dedication. Charisma is a huge YES for me but the steel is kinda meh. The Cobol, well, let’s say I am not interested. Interesting design but not practical, at least not for me.

Was going to say exactly the same on all 3 points above.

Regards the Charisma, I'm guessing the edge length is maybe .2" less than the blade length of 3.0"? If so, the Charisma presents a very unusual, extreme ratio for all four of the ratios I track, which are --> blade:closed, edge:closed, blade:weight, and edge:weight. Even more extreme than the Bradley Air! Also an unusually thin blade; even the super skinny Catcherman is 0.07", the Chaparral is 0.08", whereas Wouter reports the Charisma at 0.05". A very unusual (and exciting!) offering from Spyderco. Looking forward to owning it in a steel other than BD1N.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2025 Report

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Bolster wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:40 pm
elena86 wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:02 pm
...presents a very unusual, extreme ratio for all four of the ratios I track, which are --> blade:closed, edge:closed, blade:weight, and edge:weight. Also an unusually thin blade; even the super skinny Catcherman is 0.7. A very unusual offering from Spyderco. Looking forward to owning it in a steel other than BD1N.
Agreed on almost all points... I mean a clearly shorter closed package than a Delica (3.81 vs 4.25) with almost a PM2 cutting edge for that crazy light weight? And the superthin blade? A must have for me!

Only point I "disagree" (not the right term, cause it is purely subjective): I am fine with BD1N..
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Wartstein wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:58 pm
Only point I "disagree" (not the right term, cause it is purely subjective): I am fine with BD1N..

Yeah, I hear you. The knife is so unusual, I might have to own it in BD1N regardless!
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Bolster wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:40 pm
Also an unusually thin blade; even the super skinny Catcherman is 0.7", the Chaparral is 0.8", whereas Wouter reports the Charisma at 0.5". A very unusual (and exciting!) offering from Spyderco.
Precisely my thoughts here, most interested in the Charisma regardless of the steel.
As for the Cobol, I'm a simple man: I see a choil, I keep on scrolling. :woozy
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Bolster wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:40 pm
elena86 wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:02 pm
Thank you Wouter for your dedication. Charisma is a huge YES for me but the steel is kinda meh. The Cobol, well, let’s say I am not interested. Interesting design but not practical, at least not for me.

Was going to say exactly the same on all 3 points above.

Regards the Charisma, I'm guessing the edge length is maybe .2" less than the blade length of 3.0"? If so, the Charisma presents a very unusual, extreme ratio for all four of the ratios I track, which are --> blade:closed, edge:closed, blade:weight, and edge:weight. Even more extreme than the Bradley Air! Also an unusually thin blade; even the super skinny Catcherman is 0.7", the Chaparral is 0.8", whereas Wouter reports the Charisma at 0.5". A very unusual (and exciting!) offering from Spyderco. Looking forward to owning it in a steel other than BD1N.
I can only dream of a wavy serrated Charisma !!!
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Assuming the Charisma will sell well then it will likely be offered in different steels in the future.

If Spyderco prices it right then I imagine it’ll sell very well.
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I loved the presentation of coatings made by Morton. It was really interesting, and I, for one, learned a lot during that afternoon !

The Charisma was one of my favorite designs last year, I could not see much difference either, except that I tried to reproduce the pinching that a fellow fan brought up last year and this time : I wasn't able to. So there might have been a few changes that can't be easily spotted by the layspydercofan (maybe this new word works?)

Thanks again to all of them and especially you Wouter ! It was only my second attendance but I feel welcomed every year.
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elena86 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 2:07 am
Bolster wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:40 pm
elena86 wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:02 pm
Thank you Wouter for your dedication. Charisma is a huge YES for me but the steel is kinda meh. The Cobol, well, let’s say I am not interested. Interesting design but not practical, at least not for me.

Was going to say exactly the same on all 3 points above.

Regards the Charisma, I'm guessing the edge length is maybe .2" less than the blade length of 3.0"? If so, the Charisma presents a very unusual, extreme ratio for all four of the ratios I track, which are --> blade:closed, edge:closed, blade:weight, and edge:weight. Even more extreme than the Bradley Air! Also an unusually thin blade; even the super skinny Catcherman is 0.7", the Chaparral is 0.8", whereas Wouter reports the Charisma at 0.5". A very unusual (and exciting!) offering from Spyderco. Looking forward to owning it in a steel other than BD1N.
I can only dream of a wavy serrated Charisma !!!

Ha ha! That was my first thought too!
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Flash wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 2:41 am
Assuming the Charisma will sell well then it will likely be offered in different steels in the future.

If Spyderco prices it right then I imagine it’ll sell very well.
I hope it starts out with an affordable steel. I’d like to get one for myself and one for my wife.
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Bolster wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:40 pm
elena86 wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:02 pm
Thank you Wouter for your dedication. Charisma is a huge YES for me but the steel is kinda meh. The Cobol, well, let’s say I am not interested. Interesting design but not practical, at least not for me.

Was going to say exactly the same on all 3 points above.

Regards the Charisma, I'm guessing the edge length is maybe .2" less than the blade length of 3.0"? If so, the Charisma presents a very unusual, extreme ratio for all four of the ratios I track, which are --> blade:closed, edge:closed, blade:weight, and edge:weight. Even more extreme than the Bradley Air! Also an unusually thin blade; even the super skinny Catcherman is 0.7", the Chaparral is 0.8", whereas Wouter reports the Charisma at 0.5". A very unusual (and exciting!) offering from Spyderco. Looking forward to owning it in a steel other than BD1N.
Sir, you need to watch your decimal point placements. I was trying to figure out how a half inch thick blade qualified as thin. :winking-tongue
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Appreciate all the hard work Wouter. Always look forward to these threads.
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Re: Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2025 Report

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Omg the charisma and the cobol are both awesome... I guess I will hold back on the nand
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vilePossum wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:28 am
Omg the charisma and the cobol are both awesome... I guess I will hold back on the nand
Have to remember these photos don't necessarily mean they are going to be sold currently...
I recall many models being discussed like this YEARS ahead of seeing them make it through production.
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SpeedHoles wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:40 am
vilePossum wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:28 am
Omg the charisma and the cobol are both awesome... I guess I will hold back on the nand
Have to remember these photos don't necessarily mean they are going to be sold currently...
I recall many models being discussed like this YEARS ahead of seeing them make it through production.


I feel like we saw Chief prototypes at least 10 years before it made it to production. Another that comes to mind is the original all clear Manix 2 LW that ended up not being possible.
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WolfMouse – Gareth Bull Design Production Sample 2025

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The WolfMouse is one of my personal favorites of the new upcoming knives that Eric showed at the Amsterdam Meet this year. It is an almost classic lil’ big knife, like the lil’ Temperance, but -a lot- better looking 😉 .

The 3D rounded full carbon fiber handle houses thick stainless steel liners to create a big linerlock (as thick as a lot of reeve integral locks out there), to support a wide but relatively short and slightly upswept full flat ground blade. There is a subtle but very effective front-flipper machined into the tang of the blade. I didn’t even realize it was there until Eric presented the knife. Suffice to say that regular round opening hole works very well too, although it might be made a tiny bit smaller in production. There is a nice design feature at the back of the handle for the lanyard hole, that also makes it easier to install or access lanyard hole. The WolfMouse uses a foldover wireclip to clip it to your pocket or waistband.

The ergos of the WolfNouse are great, or at least worked very well for my hands. As a fan of the Stretch designs, I’d love a chance to put this variation of the drop point blade to work. This Gareth Bull design seems to be one of those designs that combine great practical function with great looks. This one is definitely on my wish list!

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Approximate Specifications
Closed Length: 3.89 inch / 99 mm
Overall Length: 6.69 inch / 170 mm
Blade Length: 2.79 inch / 71 mm
Blade Thickness: 0.05 inch / 3.05 mm
Steel: M390
Weight: 3.20oz / 91g
Grind: Full-flat
Lock: Linerlock
Handle: Carbon Fiber
Carry: Ambi
Clip: 2-position, tip-up
Origin: Taiwan

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Really thrilled by all of these new designs so far! :party-face Keep 'em coming!
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Balance – Ed Schempp Design Production Sample 2025

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2025 is indeed a good year to bring back balance to all parts of life, especially when it’s the Ed Schempp Balance.

This is planned as a sprint run, but it isn’t a simple ‘re-issue’ of the old carbon fiber design with blue G10 handle scales. The blade marking on this sample indicated VG10 but the plan is to make it in SPY27. The Balance has been reviewed and beefed up a little for this new sprint run. I especially noticed the thicker scale and material used for the scale with the reeve integral lock.

The Balance still has that same good grip and one-hand operation, especially if you consider how small this knife actually is. And the small hourglass shaped clip does not get in the way of a good grip. I don’t consider the Balance a lil’ big knife as it’s actually still a very small package. The performance is up there though, it’s one of those ‘portable zippers’. The Balance will open any package or letter you’ll come across. And I also found it work pretty well in an edge-in grip to peel fruit for example. The small leaf shaped blade is ground very thin, so watch those fingers, I’m speaking of experience…😉

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Approximate Specifications
Closed Length: 2.51 inch / 64 mm
Overall Length: 3.85 inch / 98 mm
Blade Length: 2.04 inch / 52 mm
Blade Thickness: 0.081 inch / 2.06 mm
Steel: CPM SPY-27
Weight: 1.41 oz / 40
Grind: Full-flat
Lock: Reeve Integral Lock
Handle: Carbon Fiber
Carry: Ambi
Clip: 2-position, tip-up

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more to follow tomorrow...
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Looking good Wouter ! Some nice future additions . MG2
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