And the lead didn't melt? That must be some sort of magic or something. How did they do that?sal wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:50 amI think that is the question we're all going to ask....and learn?
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Many years ago, we were touring the very impressive Masahiro factory. I asked Koji, the President, why his Daido made proprietary MBS-26 was able to punch so high above it's weight? He said they followed the meticulous heat treating instruction provided by Daido. This included heat treating in lead pots, which I watched. The secret" knowledge of the blade industry never ceases to amaze me.
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This is steel tempering. The whole thing is magic.
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The molten lead was the tempering mediium...
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I see. I didn't understand that. I wondered how it could be put into lead pots and heated. Hahaha! I'm a little slow, today, I guess. I'll blame in on my COVID booster I just got.
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Re: @Larrin: Sandvik 7C27Mo2
I'm interested in trying it because its close to a pure chromium steel. The composition seems identical to MBS-26 as it's missing the Mo, Co, and V that VG-10 contains. Not sure what that does as most similar steels I've used have at least 2 of the 3. Also the hrc might be run higher than VG-10 or MBS-26 if Sal takes Shawn's advice. Not to mention the MBS-26 has only been available in kitchen cutlery but the 19c27 Sal is requesting from Sandvik is thicker, presumably for different uses.
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19c27 is used some in kitchen knives and has a pretty good reputation in that use. It is basically AEB-H made by Sandvick. It is very similar to ginsanko/gin3/ginsan steel that is also popular in Japanese kitchen knives and has good reputation there. It is also pretty similar to aus-10 and should have similar performance. I seem to remember Spyderco using aus-10 at some point in the past. Larrin talks about AEB-H some here https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/03/04/all-about-aeb-l/
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Interesting article. Thanks for posting the link.
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