Native 5 salt is Magnacut?

[pantagana23]

Wish they change the color of Magnacut Native, even though it's a Salt.

It should get a designated RAL.

[Evil D]

my h1 pacifics can hold a useable edge for over a month though

Right, but using the same sharpening techniques you'll likely get significantly more edge retention from MagnaCut.


Or, the average guy who isn't looking as far into the sharpening aspect as you are will do average sharpening techniques and still achieve better edge retention. No matter how you look at it, it's definitely a good option.

[Sharp Guy]

Wish they change the color of Magnacut Native, even though it's a Salt.

It should get a designated RAL.

Me too. I'll dye mine

[ladybug93]

CALLED IT :self hi-five:

Now I'm curious - this is obviously an endorsement on par with H1 and LC200N. Larrin had ranked his own design below those two in stainlessness on the original post, & equated it with Vanax IIRC. Spyderco obviously has done quite a bit of testing. I'd love to know what they found, esp. the comparative results regarding when it's possible to get these steels rusting. For someone who tends to appreciate "semi" stainless steels ala cruwear, I am fascinated by the freakishly stainless ones. Has anyone run thorough or even controlled comparisons across these four?

Whether LC or MagnaCut are truely 100% RUST PROOF like H1 is, will probably be an ongoing argument for years to come, but I'm betting that for most people who work in salt water environments who actually use their knives for a job where edge retention is just as important as corrosion resistance, the added edge retention will likely be a fair tradeoff for a steel that's only 95% rust proof.

It's funny because we're getting to a point where corrosion resistance is a debatable topic like edge retention already is. A guy may be just fine with H1's edge retention even if it only lasts him one single day and he has to sharpen it at the end of the day, and in the exact same way the next guy may be totally fine with MagnaCut's corrosion resistance if it will make it through an entire day of working in salt water and all he needs to do is rinse the knife out at the end of the day to keep it rust free.

i remember talking to someone at spyderco years ago and them telling me that vg10 was just fine for scuba diving as long as it was rinsed and allowed to dry at the end of the day. i was asking because i was considering getting an assist, but i wanted the black version with the hood instead of the h1 version that didn't have the hood. i ended up not getting one, but i just share that to say you're probably right. a lot of people say that most stainless steels are already more than corrosion resistant enough for their needs. personally, i like the extra corrosion resistance offered by lc200n. i hope magnacut impresses us all in that area. apparently, it's got spyderco's attention enough to put it in a salt model.

[Michael Janich]

Hey, All:

Thanks for your keen eyes. Yes, the Native 5 Salt is going to change to CPM MagnaCut--it's not a misprint. Based on our extensive in-house testing of MagnaCut, we feel its extreme corrosion resistance makes it worthy of inclusion in our Salt Series.

Stay safe,

Mike

[cabfrank]

Wow, I am surprised by this. Now I have two new steels/knives I have to get.

[Evil D]

Hey, All:

Thanks for your keen eyes. Yes, the Native 5 Salt is going to change to CPM MagnaCut--it's not a misprint. Based on our extensive in-house testing of MagnaCut, we feel its extreme corrosion resistance makes it worthy of inclusion in our Salt Series.

Stay safe,

Mike

Ohhhhhhhkaaaaaay so now the next logical question is....


....will every model done in MagnaCut be considered a Salt model too? If for example Spyderco started making random non Salt models in H1, it surely would have people assuming the knife was a Salt due to the steel.

Are we to assume the Mule is a Salt?

[vivi]

Excited to test out the corrosion resistance of magnacut now. Was expecting something like 204p, not H1.

[Mushroom]

Hey, All:

Thanks for your keen eyes. Yes, the Native 5 Salt is going to change to CPM MagnaCut--it's not a misprint. Based on our extensive in-house testing of MagnaCut, we feel its extreme corrosion resistance makes it worthy of inclusion in our Salt Series.

Stay safe,

Mike

Ohhhhhhhkaaaaaay so now the next logical question is....


....will every model done in MagnaCut be considered a Salt model too? If for example Spyderco started making random non Salt models in H1, it surely would have people assuming the knife was a Salt due to the steel.

Are we to assume the Mule is a Salt?

I was wondering that too.

Will Magnacut be reserved for “Salt Series” knives only? Similar to how we have only seen H1 and LC200N in Salt Series knives.

[z1r]

Ugh, another one I will HAVE to get! When will it end, lol.

Look on the upside! You can fly faster than a speeding bullet to SFO pick one up at release. While this flat lander will be wringing his hands hoping to get one before selling out . You are so lucky ! Regards MG2

It's both a blessing and a curse living so near by! lol.

Let me know if you need me to pick one up for you!

[z1r]

Hey, All:

Thanks for your keen eyes. Yes, the Native 5 Salt is going to change to CPM MagnaCut--it's not a misprint. Based on our extensive in-house testing of MagnaCut, we feel its extreme corrosion resistance makes it worthy of inclusion in our Salt Series.

Stay safe,

Mike

Sweet!

[Manixguy@1994]

Ugh, another one I will HAVE to get! When will it end, lol.

Look on the upside! You can fly faster than a speeding bullet to SFO pick one up at release. While this flat lander will be wringing his hands hoping to get one before selling out . You are so lucky ! Regards MG2

It's both a blessing and a curse living so near by! lol.

Let me know if you need me to pick one up for you!

You are awesome ! MG2

[JRinFL]

Hey, All:

Thanks for your keen eyes. Yes, the Native 5 Salt is going to change to CPM MagnaCut--it's not a misprint. Based on our extensive in-house testing of MagnaCut, we feel its extreme corrosion resistance makes it worthy of inclusion in our Salt Series.

Stay safe,

Mike

Thank you for the official confirmation.

This is great news! Larrin must be pretty proud.

[Ramonade]

Kind of a bummer that it doesn't appear to have a cool logo like LC200N or H1. While I typically dislike blade markings, I really enjoy those logos on my Salt blades!

Even though it is my favorite knife, it would become the perfect knife in my eyes with a 2,5mm stock.
I still use it a lot, it just gets thick behind the edge pretty fast...

[JakeXman]

I’m glad that Magnacut is considered a salt steel by Spyderco—I hope that means it’s as corrosion resistant as LC200n. I’ve rusted everything short of that (including 20cv) just sitting in my sweaty pocket, so I’m hoping Magnacut will live up to the hype.

I think I know someone who can test whether Magnacut is salt worthy or not

*sigh* guess it’s time to start saving up/selling plasma!

[PStone]

Hey, All:

Thanks for your keen eyes. Yes, the Native 5 Salt is going to change to CPM MagnaCut--it's not a misprint. Based on our extensive in-house testing of MagnaCut, we feel its extreme corrosion resistance makes it worthy of inclusion in our Salt Series.

Stay safe,

Mike

Ohhhhhhhkaaaaaay so now the next logical question is....


....will every model done in MagnaCut be considered a Salt model too? If for example Spyderco started making random non Salt models in H1, it surely would have people assuming the knife was a Salt due to the steel.

Are we to assume the Mule is a Salt?

I was thinking the same thing. I think it will come down to what hardware is used for other models to gain full Salt Series status. I don’t believe the Abel Reels Native was ever listed as a Salt series, even though it used LC200N. I imagine it had to do with the hardware used like the pivot and screws and such.

[nerdlock]

Is the N5 Salt blade interchangeable with the N5 regular? I'm pretty sure this is the next question many of us are gonna ask next.

[ChrisinHove]

Is the N5 Salt blade interchangeable with the N5 regular? I'm pretty sure this is the next question many of us are gonna ask next.

This!

And, wow!

[dan31]

Ugh. I can see these selling out of stock in a few minutes. I guess Spyderco will up the batch quantities as this checks so many boxes. I was looking for a Native 5 salt plain edge.

[bleasure]

Whether LC or MagnaCut are truely 100% RUST PROOF like H1 is, will probably be an ongoing argument for years to come, but I'm betting that for most people who work in salt water environments who actually use their knives for a job where edge retention is just as important as corrosion resistance, the added edge retention will likely be a fair tradeoff for a steel that's only 95% rust proof.

It's funny because we're getting to a point where corrosion resistance is a debatable topic like edge retention already is. A guy may be just fine with H1's edge retention even if it only lasts him one single day and he has to sharpen it at the end of the day, and in the exact same way the next guy may be totally fine with MagnaCut's corrosion resistance if it will make it through an entire day of working in salt water and all he needs to do is rinse the knife out at the end of the day to keep it rust free.

I think you're right about all of the above. I see most effectively stainless steels as genuinely stainless for most any use and situation other than real abuse, like leaving a salt-water soaked knife in a kayak for weeks at a time. My interest in these isn't the like, competitive, progressivist/tech determinist thing where only the most hyperbolic/highest etc. is valuable or good, like the edge retention race, it's basically just morbid curiosity about their abilities and traits.

If there is a line for practical, 'overwhelmingly stainless enough for amost everyone, almost all of the time' that pretty well most stainless steels and even a lot of quasi-stainless ones meet, my fascination with these is how far beyond that they go. There is no practical scenario in which I personally can imagine *needing* the stainlessness that any of these offer, beyond clumsiness insurance (which I do need in general ...hence liking tougher steels) and infinite peace of mind. But the researcher in me wants to know more, and I'm curious if any solid info's out there about these four relative to eachother.