Kris: Reborn

[Sumdumguy]

Now thats a bombshell! I'd love to see a sprint run of the Kris! :D

Yeah I would as well. The KRIS model is one of the very few I never yet owned from that era. Also I've wondered what a serrated version of the KRIS would be like?

That I believe was one of Ed Schempp's earlier models? It was only in the main line up for a little over a year or so and it didn't get much attention until it got discontinued. But that's the story on so many Spyderco models of the past.

I've been trying to get one for ages. Finding one for a decent price isn't an easy task.

I personally wouldn't want an SE version on this one, as it's an ethnic design. Making it SE would take away from the "authenticity" of it. Also, like with the Ulize, the recurves function somewhat like mega serrations on these knives.

I'm not opposed to SE, just feel that this isn't the model for them.

But do consider that blades that have curves tend to do really well with serrations. Now don't misunderstand me because I would want it in both PE & SE. That way both camps can have what they want. It was just about the time when the KRIS came out that Spyderco started slowing down on their SE models. Because before that almost every model they made were available in both SE & PE.

And I understand you wanting a KRIS just the way it was when it first came out. But if they made them in both PE & SE then everyone would get what they want. Because Hawkbills for instance really don't have 10% of the uses that the serrated Hawkbills have. You might change your mind if you were to test drive one :) Blades with curve tend to do really well in SE.

I understand the benefits of serrations and the compounding effect a curve has on them. I'm all for an SE Ulize.

But, not a Kris. It was designed to reflect an ancient Pacific islander design. Changing the edge type, would take away from the "Ethnic" part of the knife.

[JD Spydo]

Yeah I would as well. The KRIS model is one of the very few I never yet owned from that era. Also I've wondered what a serrated version of the KRIS would be like?

That I believe was one of Ed Schempp's earlier models? It was only in the main line up for a little over a year or so and it didn't get much attention until it got discontinued. But that's the story on so many Spyderco models of the past.

I've been trying to get one for ages. Finding one for a decent price isn't an easy task.

I personally wouldn't want an SE version on this one, as it's an ethnic design. Making it SE would take away from the "authenticity" of it. Also, like with the Ulize, the recurves function somewhat like mega serrations on these knives.

I'm not opposed to SE, just feel that this isn't the model for them.

But do consider that blades that have curves tend to do really well with serrations. Now don't misunderstand me because I would want it in both PE & SE. That way both camps can have what they want. It was just about the time when the KRIS came out that Spyderco started slowing down on their SE models. Because before that almost every model they made were available in both SE & PE.

And I understand you wanting a KRIS just the way it was when it first came out. But if they made them in both PE & SE then everyone would get what they want. Because Hawkbills for instance really don't have 10% of the uses that the serrated Hawkbills have. You might change your mind if you were to test drive one :) Blades with curve tend to do really well in SE.

I understand the benefits of serrations and the compounding effect a curve has on them. I'm all for an SE Ulize.

But, not a Kris. It was designed to reflect an ancient Pacific islander design. Changing the edge type, would take away from the "Ethnic" part of the knife.

OK I see what you're saying and I can appreciate that. I do remember that model was a reflection from ancient times and your point is well taken. But if they would bring back the Spyker and Ulize both and put SE teeth on them I will at that point zip my lip and be temporarily satisfied :D

[Cambertree]

Hmmm, they’d have to have a pretty funky shaped grinding wheel to apply serrations to that blade shape. :D

[wrdwrght]

A Kris reborn?

At the very moment I’ve become curious about Schempp models AND complex curves?

I am so ready, that is, so long as its curves do not have the Spyderedge treatment, which would simply overwhelm the low-frequency low-amplitude serrations that are the Kris’ claim to fame. And I would prefer screws to pins.

I’ll just add here a note about my awakening. Larrin’s recent book shows the steels of the sort that Spyderco offers us are all pretty much capable and that their practical differences are more-or-less subtle.

Geometry is where differences get accentuated. Geometry is where my Spydie curiosity seems to be shifting.

[Dazen]

I’m sorry y’all, I can appreciate the work that goes into this knife but this one’s too far out there!

[Sumdumguy]

I can't envision a way to make screws work for this model. It's smooth, curvy nature is what makes it what it is. I'm usually all for(insistent on) screw construction. But, on this one I would rather see it maintain it's original form. Just, with different materials.

[Drahkis]

Hmmm, they’d have to have a pretty funky shaped grinding wheel to apply serrations to that blade shape. :D

It couldn't be any worse than serrations on a dodo, civilian or matriarch

[Cambertree]

Hmmm, they’d have to have a pretty funky shaped grinding wheel to apply serrations to that blade shape. :D

It couldn't be any worse than serrations on a dodo, civilian or matriarch

Yeah, I’m curious how they’re done on those blades now. Narrower grinding wheels perhaps, that grind the blade in sections? Robotic grinding cells?

[Enactive]

This thread needs pics!
Who wants to put screws here?

I am all for no extra holes in this model-- keep the pinned construction (also keep the tip up RH only clip-- Sorry Cambertree and other lefties) Maybe a custom optional LH clip which would require tapping the liner as a mod.

Fingers crossed for at least BD1n and screw construction!

I have to disagree. I think screw construction would really detract from the design, especially the bolsters. The smooth finish of the handle with flush pins needs to be handled to be fully appreciated. Screws would muck that up.

The original really is a piece of functional art. :spyder: :cool:

I can't envision a way to make screws work for this model. It's smooth, curvy nature is what makes it what it is. I'm usually all for(insistent on) screw construction. But, on this one I would rather see it maintain it's original form. Just, with different materials.

[Sumdumguy]

I haven't been this excited about the prospects of a Sprint, ever.

Excellent pictures! How could anyone want to tarnish that with screws?

[DerRock]

Seriously... does the world really need another incredibly ugly knife?

Kris is a beautiful knife. Is not it so?

[Thunderpants]

Great photos DerRock! I am still struggling with the aesthetics but I am sure the Kris is beautiful on the inside if not on the outside!

[DutchBlades]

I think the Kris was an exceptional design. The original maker can no longer make it so Eric is working with another maker to see if we can sprint it.

sal

Yes please :D
I love the Persians, but the Kris has to be my favorite!
It's one of the few knives I had to hunt down a backup for so I could bring myself to carrying it.
Exceptional design and I love mine.
(perhaps a smaller version would hit the market with more success, but any new Kris is better than none!)

[JD Spydo]

Hmmm, they’d have to have a pretty funky shaped grinding wheel to apply serrations to that blade shape. :D

Really I don't think it would be much different than what they use on Reverse S blades or Hawkbill blades either for that matter. Oh it could be done I can assure you of that. It might not be cheap but it could be done.

I really don't see how it would be any more difficult that putting serrations on a Reverse S blade>> especially something the size of a Civilian or Matriarch.

[JD Spydo]

I think the Kris was an exceptional design. The original maker can no longer make it so Eric is working with another maker to see if we can sprint it.

sal

Yes please :D
I love the Persians, but the Kris has to be my favorite!
It's one of the few knives I had to hunt down a backup for so I could bring myself to carrying it.
Exceptional design and I love mine.
(perhaps a smaller version would hit the market with more success, but any new Kris is better than none!)

With the fanfare that the KRIS model has attained over the years it really baffles me as to why it never took off when it was on the main line up. But it isn't the only Spyderco model that gained popularity after it was discontinued. I could name off at least 8 of them off the top of my head.

There's even been sharpening tools that weren't appreciated until they got discontinued. The 701 PROFILES being a prime example. Try buying an older SE Dodo model and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[VashHash]

I'm a purist when it comes to the Kris. Bring it back pinned and with micarta. I told you all this was going to happen.

[Sumdumguy]

I'm a purist when it comes to the Kris. Bring it back pinned and with micarta. I told you all this was going to happen.

Agreed!

But, what color? I'm thinking Ivory.

We've been begging for long enough, that's for sure!

[Enactive]

I'm a purist when it comes to the Kris. Bring it back pinned and with micarta. I told you all this was going to happen.

Agreed!

But, what color? I'm thinking Ivory.

We've been begging for long enough, that's for sure!

Ivory, burgundy, purple? Keep it linen for sure. VG-10 or other stainless is my preference in this model

[Sumdumguy]

I'm a purist when it comes to the Kris. Bring it back pinned and with micarta. I told you all this was going to happen.

Agreed!

But, what color? I'm thinking Ivory.

We've been begging for long enough, that's for sure!

PURPLE?!?!

Don't even get me started!

[curlyhairedboy]

Haha, it appears the Kris is the (wavy) line in the sand for the pinned construction fans

If the sprint is in vg10 and pinned again, I'll likely pass on it as I've passed on opportunities to get the original.